Super Smash Bros. Discussion

Do you think it is real or fake?

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striderviper said:
You haven't been using her back air enough.

Anyway, what really bothers me is the fact that you put Robin next to Palutena, that's just wrong.
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Her backair has a really tight sweetspot though. It's a good move, but like, only for killing. You don't use it in neutral. When I say no air game I mean she can't approach in the air, she can't air to air, she can't short hop air because none of her aerials are safe or quick. That's really crucial.

I'm starting to think less and less of Robin. How can this character deal with rushdown? How can s/he outcamp characters like Olimar and Mega Man? How can s/he threaten characters like Wario and Rosalina at neutral? S/he's just too slow and awful at the ground. I'll concede that s/he has an amazing set of aerials and can wall certain characters, but an awful air mobility only goes a long way.
 
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Freezer said:
I'm starting to think less and less of Robin. How can this character deal with rushdown? How can s/he outcamp characters like Olimar and Mega Man? How can s/he threaten characters like Wario and Rosalina at neutral? S/he's just too slow and awful at the ground. I'll concede that s/he has an amazing set of aerials and can wall certain characters, but an awful air mobility only goes a long way.
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I feel that Robin is just fine, honestly. Using his/her neutral has gone a long way for me, and his/her neutral special has a ton of range. It's just my opinion though, if you don't like Robin then it's okay.
 
Nah said:
Probably gonna have to watch that a few times (and hope that the audio gets fixed) to really understand what frame trapping is....and then gotta see if I can figure out how to use it for my mains.
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Basically it's spacing/timing your moves to fool (trap) your opponent into think they can punish you, but you end up hitting them before they could do that.

Like, the best example I could think of is when you know when Mario use an aerial, and you shield it, but sometimes he manages to hit you with his jab before you could grab him? That's a frame trap.
 
I like everything about this tier list. However, Kirby, Ganondorf, Mario, Diddy Kong, and Luigi are literal gods who cannot be bound to things like tiers. They are on another plane of existence
 
slashtiki said:
I like everything about this tier list. However, Kirby, Ganondorf, Mario, Diddy Kong, and Luigi are literal gods who cannot be bound to things like tiers. They are on another plane of existence
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Diddy Kong got nerfed last month, so he's no longer the literal god he once was. Also Kirby and Ganondorf are at their best in multiplayer, so you could spam the same strong moves while everyone else is busy beating each other up. The Mario Bros. are good, but not god-tier material.
 
Freezer said:
Made a tier list out of boredom
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A pretty solid tier list overall, but there are a few placements that I can't really agree with.

I feel like Shulk and Metaknight need to switch places on the tier list. (IMO), Shulk has the potential to do a lot of crazy plays, combos and strings. Especially in a customs on environment (watch some of Zero's Custom Shulk games for an example of how crazy things can get). Metaknight, on the other hand, doesn't really seem to have any solid kill moves. He has a good combo ability, sure, but you really need to gimp with him, or use shuttle loop after an U-Air string, in order to get a kill.
 
Pinkie-Dawn said:
Diddy Kong got nerfed last month, so he's no longer the literal god he once was. Also Kirby and Ganondorf are at their best in multiplayer, so you could spam the same strong moves while everyone else is busy beating each other up. The Mario Bros. are good, but not god-tier material.
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I'd say Luigi is one of the best in the game though. Mario's solid, but not as good as Luigi IMO.
 
I kind of rag on this game a bit for being boring to watch but we started a swiss-style tourney on a different forum and I've been enjoying it. It's still super boring to watch but I forgot that it was still pretty enjoyable to play. Can't say I care for the competitive sm4sh scene, it's mostly just ZeRo mouthing off lately and everybody getting riled up about it. I guess it's more interesting than anything that was going on before that though.

Dank Pit shows no mercy.
 
Crackin355 said:
I kind of rag on this game a bit for being boring to watch but we started a swiss-style tourney on a different forum and I've been enjoying it. It's still super boring to watch but I forgot that it was still pretty enjoyable to play.
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I rarely find it enjoyable to watch other people play any game really. But LPs and such are pretty popular so apparently a lot of people do like to watch others play.....

Pinkie-Dawn said:
This is only for the Mii Gunners, but I have to ask why, because guitars don't function like guns.
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ikr? It'd make more sense to me to make it Mii Swordsman only
 
Pinkie-Dawn said:
It's 2 for Ryu and Roy, 1 for Lucas, and 2 for the others. The guys at Smashboards think one of those two slots belongs to Wolf, but if it was for Wolf, then we would've found sound files for him alongside with Ryu and Roy. In other words, he wasn't planned to return pre-ballot, so we have to use the ballot to bring him back, but he's having competition with Banjo-Kazooie, Issac, King K. Rool, and Shovel Knight. Sakurai also made a tweet that they won't able to work on all the suggestions from the ballot, which is why the two slots are reserved for the ballot winners.
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From the people you mentioned having competition with wolf, to be honest Isaac is the only person I like (though that maybe biased, as I voted for him :p); the others look pretty weird to me. What games are they from anyway, besides shovel knight. Again, I am really hoping isaac gets in, since he looks do right awesome and his p synergy provides endless ideas for moves. I do not see why he should not be added.

As for the leaks, I believe the part about Ryu ( I definitely can see my dad downloading him if we ever get then game). However, as much as I want to, I simply do not believe Roy is returning, as he was pretty much replaced by Lucina. I can't imagine what Sakurai could possibly do to make Roy a unique fighter. I imagined that he was originally planned to be added, but was cut to make room for Lucina.
 
Garison said:
From the people you mentioned having competition with wolf, to be honest Isaac is the only person I like (though that maybe biased, as I voted for him :p); the others look pretty weird to me. What games are they from anyway, besides shovel knight. Again, I am really hoping isaac gets in, since he looks do right awesome and his p synergy provides endless ideas for moves. I do not see why he should not be added.
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I'm surprised you've never heard of these characters. Banjo-Kazooie is a rather pair of iconic ex-Nintendo characters during the N64 days before being bought by Microsoft, though the company's CEO commented that he wouldn't mind seeing Banjo-Kazooie in Smash. King K. Rool is the primary antagonist of the Donkey Kong series since the SNES days, made by the same guys, named Rare Ware, who created Banjo-Kazooie (thankfully, Nintendo still owns K. Rool when Microsoft bought Rare). And Shovel Knight is from last year's hit indie game of the same name, who is basically a tribute/love letter to the 8-bit gaming era.


As for the leaks, I believe the part about Ryu ( I definitely can see my dad downloading him if we ever get then game). However, as much as I want to, I simply do not believe Roy is returning, as he was pretty much replaced by Lucina. I can't imagine what Sakurai could possibly do to make Roy a unique fighter. I imagined that he was originally planned to be added, but was cut to make room for Lucina.
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Roy's fans do not care though, they just want their boy back. Plus Sakurai's going to be participating in July's Fire Emblem event to celebrate the series' 25th anniversary, which may hint Roy's reveal over there.
 
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire said:
Has anyone heard that we might get Lucas on the 14th? Nintendo Uk mentioned on their twitter account that "Lucas joins the fray on June 14th." If so then I imagine we'll see some more DLC plans at E3.
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It was confirmed that we're getting both Lucas, the new Mii costumes, and the Miiverse stage on the 14th, which is during the World Championship. One of my E3 predictions was that Ryu will be one of the DLC reveals from the Nintendo Digital Event.
 
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