The Best Overall Team (Unofficial)

[Eos Aduro]

Im going to say we stick with Bronzong, its ONLY weak is fire, and Donphan and Blissey eat up fire attacks for breakfast. So the only thing we really need now is a physical attacker, no need to change walls. Bronzings fire weak is less intense than Forrys anyways, plus we get Hypnosis help.

Physical attacker, we dont even need to use a dragon type, we could always use Heracross, he can do some damage, Im going to put ScarfCross into the mix here.

 

[jb0000612]

I was gona suggest Heracross, but I was afraid we'd already discussed it.

 

[Eos Aduro]

Hmmm, Im going to say that we use Heracross, CBMence, ScarfGross, or one of my personal favs, Machamp.

 

[sims796]

I don't say Machamp at all. Good, but not the best. Especially with his SPD.

I agree with Anti on the Ice weak. If we are that scared, slap a poke with Thick Fat & call it a day.

I say Electrivire, I wish we had Thunderbolt bait.

 

[Eos Aduro]

With Bronzong ice weak is gone, he eats ice attacks for lunch (he eats a fruit salad for breakfast). Yeah, I ususually Scarf Machamp, works great, but if we need a physical sweeper, Electivire works, good coverage, but yeah we dont have any Thunderbolt bait.

 

[Syaoran]

Hippowdon vs Donphan

You are forgetting Hippo gets Ice Fang, so physical dragons can't really threaten it. It can take special hits better than Donphan, and Slack Off the damage.

Also, Donphan and Gliscor on the same team? Overdoing it. If you want a spinner just use Starmie. No ice weak and can be the solution to many threats.

 

[Eos Aduro]

Ok NO HIPPOWDON! Is EVERYONE foregtting Sandstream! It'll hurt us too, so Donphan stays, and we can keep a spinner. Gengar beats Starmie, with its resistances, switching in on Earthquakes, Close Combats, Returns, blah blah balh gives us a killer edge on Choice itemed users.

And Im saying Bronzong over Gliscor, rewriting the team right now its

Gengar
Blissey
Bronzong
Infernape
Donphan
Electivire/Dragon Sweeper/Heracross

So Im saying yes to Electivire.

 

[Avolition]

Sandstorm + Leftovers = zero damage or healing each turn iirc.

 

[Eos Aduro]

Duh, but that takes away leftovers anyways, still hurting the team, Donphna is the better option.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Ok NO HIPPOWDON! Is EVERYONE foregtting Sandstream! It'll hurt us too, so Donphan stays, and we can keep a spinner. Gengar beats Starmie, with its resistances, switching in on Earthquakes, Close Combats, Returns, blah blah balh gives us a killer edge on Choice itemed users.

And Im saying Bronzong over Gliscor, rewriting the team right now its

Gengar
Blissey
Bronzong
Infernape
Donphan
Electivire/Dragon Sweeper/Heracross

So Im saying yes to Electivire.

Your gonna have to scarf E-vire seeing as your not packing any T-Bolt bait. Like Gyarados or whatever which fails anyway as all good players know whats coming when you switch your t-bolt bait into something packing T-Bolt. Someone did it to me on shoddy, my Heatran has Hidden power Electric, he switched in Gyarados, i knew what was coming and the Electivre got a lovely Earth Power.

Honestly E-Vire is overrated, even if it does get a motor drive your forced to switch out due to it being so easy to wall, eg : - Dusknoir, Spiritomb, Cressellia, Tangrowth, Donphan, Forretress, Hippowdon etc.

Either Hera or Dragons please >> Evire any day.

 

[Avolition]

Well I have no experience with Donphan or Hippowdon, so I can't really help with a strategy or set for it. My ideas would just be tests, I guess.

 

[Eos Aduro]

I prefer mixed-vre, with Flamthrower its a much bigger threat, but I suppose, Electivire actually has a very diverse movepool, he;s just walled by psychics and ghosts.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I prefer mixed-vre, with Flamthrower its a much bigger threat, but I suppose, Electivire actually has a very diverse movepool, he;s just walled by psychics and ghosts.

Dont we need a physical sweeper ? We already have Mixape for mix sweeping

 

[Eos Aduro]

Yeah, so Heracross then? He has a diverse movepool, and wreaks havoc on many teams that are unprepared.

 

[sims796]

When did we decide Bronzong over Gliscor?

 

[Eos Aduro]

Im not entirely sure, but I think Bronzong is the better option here.

 

[sims796]

We need to discuss all options. We can't jump on what seems best at first-that's how constant backtracking starts. & We also must hear out all opinions before a poke is added to our currennt list.

I dislike his Fire weakness to a degree. But if that's the case, Forry is also an option.

 

[Eos Aduro]

Hmm, but if we use Gliscor, we get an inhanced ice weak, so unless we use a physical attacker that can take ice hits, then we have a problem.

 

[sims796]

I didn't say keep Gliscor. I said consider all options. There are better Hera counters than Bronzong around, so we must be on the lookout. I say that because this is about the 4th time Bronzong was mentioned after constantly being added & dropped. That was from rash decisions.

 

[Eos Aduro]

Hmm, then what do you suggest? So far Bronzong looks pretty good, Donphan can take a lot of hits from Heracross as well.