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The Count to Infinity V7.0 (Over a year old and counting!)

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Aizuke said:
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What happens if I do not vote?

Initially the Australian Electoral Commission will write to all apparent non-voters requesting that they either provide a reason for their failure to vote or pay a $20 penalty.
If, within 21 days, the apparent non-voter fails to reply, cannot provide a valid and sufficient reason or declines to pay the penalty, then prosecution proceedings may be instigated. If the matter is dealt with in court and the person is found guilty, he or she may be fined up to $50 plus court costs.

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If you're sick, you'll most likely need a doctor's certifcate in order to prove your reason for being absent at the voting session.
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But how would you provide reason for that? Would you need to mail it?
What if that person is incapacitated? Meaning.. they're not in a proper mental state to do that sort of thing for themselves? Would the person appointed with the power of attorney need to sign those documents themselves? Or would that entitle them to vote for the other person on their behalf? What if they don't have someone like that? They can't issue those sort of legal documents to nurses.. and they wouldn't have a way to get to court if they're bedridden.

That's kind of ridiculous.

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I like voting, I've only voted once though, but hey it was fun (and federal, too!)
 
I think the point of making everyone vote, is so they actually get the whole countries opinion, rather than places where not everyone does it, then they complain about not liking who's in power, but they haven't actually done anything to try and change it.
I've never actually heard of anyone getting fined for not voting..it's pretty easy, takes like 5 minutes and if you really don't want to vote, you can chuck it the paper blank, it just won't get counted, cause it's anonymous. If for whatever reason you won't be there or can't be there, you vote before the day, via mail or online I think. If you have extreme circumstances as to why you didn't vote, I'm sure they would understand, obviously not everyone is gonna be 100 percent healthy to go out and vote.





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I just don't vote because I don't have an opinion on the matter. If I had an opinion at all, then perhaps I would actually go and vote. I couldn't vote during the last election, but depending on the circumstances I may or may not vote next time. It just depends on whether or not I gather an opinion. I'm neither Liberal nor Conservative, so that really doesn't matter to me.
 
That's fair enough, if you didn't mind which way an election turns out. But yeah like I said before, it's just hypothetically if you just sat and complained about something rather then try and change it, your own fault lol. But that applies to a lot of situations anyway, not just voting and such.
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Hahah, Simmone, you must have been pretty bored.
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But how would you provide reason for that? Would you need to mail it?
What if that person is incapacitated? Meaning.. they're not in a proper mental state to do that sort of thing for themselves? Would the person appointed with the power of attorney need to sign those documents themselves? Or would that entitle them to vote for the other person on their behalf? What if they don't have someone like that? They can't issue those sort of legal documents to nurses.. and they wouldn't have a way to get to court if they're bedridden.

That's kind of ridiculous.
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Well, most people here who aren't in a proper mental state, they have carers that help them around. But I mean, the Australian Government isn't an arse about that stuff. I doubt they'll fine someone on the spot for that.
 
Some what, and my throat is also killing me :(

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If you got fined for not voting, maybe my aunt would finally get to move her huge ass and do it.

We have a 73% average turnover rate for national elections and a whooping 42% for European elections, it's almost embarrassing.

I'm a member of the Spanish Socialist Party (aka Labour for you Aussies) and, as such, I'm trying to get anybody I can to vote for the elections in three weeks... it's going to be really hard, the crisis is making lots of people think that it really serves no purpose.

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To be honest, if half of American's don't vote.. Why do they complain about their president then? They could have changed that factor if they voted, haha.
 
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208090. Apparently around 20% of eligible Americans only vote in Presidential elections (every 4 years), while 40% vote every election, and another 40% don't turn up at all.

Part of it is a lack of awareness in some cases, though the poor generally don't show up to vote. That and elections are on a Tuesday.

That and people who complain but don't vote think that their vote doesn't matter.

That said, my state has lead the nation in voter turnout rate in every election since at least 2000. General attitude in my state is if you don't like a policy get off your butt and vote to change it. Of course, we have been in political gridlock in my state in the past decade, as well, with two government shutdowns of a week or longer due to not having the funds properly allocated.
 
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To be fair, most presidents seem to be automatically unliked.
People apparently have huge expectations on every new president, and if they don't immediately fulfill them, they're pretty much considered crap.

That's just what I've made out of it though :D

Hm...

I haven't fully decided on my political alignment, I mean I'm definitely more liberal than them American's republicans, but when it comes to my own country...
Seriously now, all our main parties have pretty similar politics. None of them are fully liberal or fully socialists. They're just grayzoned. >_>
 
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To be fair, most presidents seem to be automatically unliked.
People apparently have huge expectations on every new president, and if they don't immediately fulfill them, they're pretty much considered crap.
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That happens a lot with our prime-ministers here.

I haven't decided on my alignment as well, but I seem to have some left-winged tendencies.
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I won't vote this November. But there's a reason for that. Next November... I'll probably vote then. Assuming I'm knowledgeable enough about the candidates by that time :V
 
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