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The Daily-Chit Chat of 09'

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Don't mind me... I'm just someone who's sick of dealing with winter-like weather a minimum of five months a year.
Oh man, that would suck. I like the weather variation in Texas. It never stays too hot or too cold for very long, so I try to enjoy each season as it arrives. Personally, I prefer warm weather, and by warm I mean 85F and up. That's swimming weather! Anything below freezing is miserable, but I don't mind it as much; my birthday is in the winter, along with Christmas, and there's always that chance for snow.
 
Bah. You Floridians are spoiled. I would never complain about a 60 degree day... unless it was because the weatherperson said it was going to be 80 degrees. Or if it was ridiculously windy.

It got up to 40F today, and I was out and about shopping without socks on (because I wasn't expecting to have to go into the store until my brother whined that he can't find anything in there). Windchill made it feel like 10F or so, if you ask me. And my dog, who was along for a car ride, just had to have the window open while I was driving.

Floridians are spoiled. Like I said at school today people in Florida wear jackets when it is 70 degrees.
 
We break 100F in August pretty much every year, so 85F is "cool" in the summer, lol. When you open the door, and your first thought is "Oven.", that's when it's hot.

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Floridians are spoiled. Like I said at school today people in Florida wear jackets when it is 70 degrees.
Lol, so do we! I'm not exaggerating, I swear! Really, if it's windy enough, I'm like "Brrrr, it's kinda chilly out here!"
 
Fyi, Flareon has a base 110 sp. defense. A 95 base special attack isn't anything to laugh at, so taking that into consideration, a Flareon with, say, a mild nature could be a freaking beast. :| Defense would be crappy, but every pokemon has a weakness that's pretty much inevitable.
Not every pokemon has a weakness as severe as that.

And isn't Scizor one of the top used OU pokemon? :|
Yeah, that was my point. Speed is a very important factor, although it isn't the most important part.

And yet again you state bad examples by throwing water types out there. I'm pretty sure a Mild Flareon with HP Grass could take out a Swampert, granted that it uses Surf instead of Earthquake, which Flareon would most likely survive anyway because of it's monstrosity of a special defense.
Since when did Swampert not have EQ? That is basically the most common move in OU, especially when it is the most accurate and strong, with a great physical attack of 110 and STAB to back it up.


Note that it is the only Fire type pokemon with the Highest special defense. You rarely see defensive fire types(except heatran) in this point and time.
But fire pokemon usually aren't meant to be defensive, considering that they have really common weaknesses. They are supposed to be sweepers.
 
We break 100F in August pretty much every year, so 85F is "cool" in the summer, lol. When you open the door, and your first thought is "Oven.", that's when it's hot.

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Lol, so do we! I'm not exaggerating, I swear! Really, if it's windy enough, I'm like "Brrrr, it's kinda chilly out here!"

Haha we do wear jackets whenever its lower than 90 degrees. Atleast I do. I consider it cold. :D Thats what happens when you live in Florida all your life.
 
In Summer, it can easily break 110 Degrees.
But in Winter it can be as low as 35 Degrees.
But I live in a desert city.
LAS VEGAS! :D
 
Btw, you guys could've also ignored the attack, and make Flareon a special sweeper instead. Seriously now. If you're that worried about it's 130 attack, then move on to the 95 Special Attack. I don't get why people obsess over it's attack, but whatever.
Because a pokemon who's featured stat is base 95 is not good. What I'm trying to show you is that Flareon desperately needs to be able to utiilize that base 130 attack stat, and it can't. That's why it has problems. Also, it's built somewhat bulky, but it's been cursed with it's typing; fire types can't wall anything. At all.
Defensive Flareon can still do fine, but it must have a bit of offense in it too. It can't last forever, so it'll make do with what it has.
Wrong.

There's a reason that no one cares about "Bulky Fire types": Stealth Rock and bulky water types.

And you people say that it's other evolutions perform better. But you do know that Vaporeon, a pokemon that's commonly known and used for wishing and stalling and whatnot has the same exact stats Flareon has. Just swap it's base Attack with it's special attack and voila.
Oh my.

Not only did you not thoroughly read our posts, you didn't even read up on your little "fact". Vaporeon and Flareon's base HP and base attack are switched, which is quite different, and also sp. atk and sp. def are switched. Not only does Vaporeon laugh at Flareon's bulkyness, it has a far better movepool, allowing it to run support sets with acid armor and aqua ring, and ice beam for better coverage. It's not beat to death with SR, and can actually take down what it's designed to take down, unlike Flareon who makes OU's steel types laugh. Also, STAB water has better type coverage than STAB fire.

So like....what are their similarities, again? Oh right: Wish-Toxic and um.....oh their names have "eon" at the end. Yeah.

The same can be said for Glaceon.
Again, no. Their defenses are also switched. They're a closer match than Vaporeon is to Flareon, sure, but switching stats is not always good, especially when said pokemon can't utilize those stats effectively.

This denial thing is like.....omg....wow. Look, a LOT of people want to see Flareon get better; I really had hopes that HGSS would give it Flare Blitz or some other moves to help it out, but no such luck. You have to understand that even the best of the fire types get beat to death in competitive battling, and Flareon is far from the best.

Here's hoping you absorb some of this. :/

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-sigh- I'm going to bed. I'm tired of all the drama on the internet. Of all things and of all places. I'm tired of Luck being stubborn and constantly hating one of my most liked Pokemon and making it sound pathetic when it clearly isn't. I'm tired of anyone else who does the same.

No shame, right? Because everything you say is right, right? Because if someone says differently, then thats a cause for internet drama, right? Because clearly, because you can't respect someone's personal likings, thats a cause to attempt to put what they like down, right?
WTF?

I don't know about Luck, but all I wanted to do is show you that Flareon is far from a fire type god. You got yourself worked up, not me.
 
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Driftblim would like to have a word with you.

Seriously, you would do anything to make Flareon sound bad. Just quit it already.


Stop bringing it up, then.

But it does have a major importance.


Um duh? I'm saying by chance. Use any damage calculator and see how much HP Grass would do against a swampert. Flareon is great again commonly used Steel types like Magnezone and Skarmory.

Circumstances, circumstances. There are still other superior choices that you can use to annihilate better with.



Heatran would like to have a word with you, as well as Magcargo and Moltres.
O RLY? Magcargo is pretty bad since it is doesn't even have sufficient health for being a good staller, among from that 4x weakness to the most common type in the entire game. As for moltres...lets face it. 50% health at the beginning of battle doesn't do it any justice. Heatran is pretty good, I'll admit that.
@GengarNightmare: So all NU pokemon suck now because of their obvious "never used" labeling? You do know that NUs, along with a lot of UUs, can easily take on some OUs, if not a good majority of them. :/
It's the most trusted way of labeling. Scizor didn't suddenly become OU because the leaders of Smogon rolled a dice. It became one because someone realized that bullet punch would make it an absolute beast. If you just went a few months back, you would be laughed out of the metagame if you said Scizor would be one of the most used pokemon. I will personally apologize if you can manage to make Flareon have that potential used.

You guys are obviously ignoring Superpower, too. But what can you do when people continue to hate on one of your liked Pokemon?
Sadly, no STAB, and that annoying effect. Also, baton pass doesn't work good with superpower unless you want to waste a turn buffing your pokemon up again.
Btw, you guys could've also ignored the attack, and make Flareon a special sweeper instead. Seriously now. If you're that worried about it's 130 attack, then move on to the 95 Special Attack. I don't get why people obsess over it's attack, but whatever.
Unusued potential is unused. It can always be a mixed fighter, but even then, it doesn't have a decent STAB move.
Listen to the pros.
Flareon is a missed opportunity. 130 base Attack is put to waste with no decent STAB move and its Special Attack isn't anything to write home about. As an offensive Pokemon, Flareon struggles to do anything better than its fellow Fire-Types. Its saving grace is the ability to pass Wishes and Substitutes.
Defensive Flareon can still do fine, but it must have a bit of offense in it too. It can't last forever, so it'll make do with what it has.
Defensive and fire aren't always the best combo, which is why torkoal doesn't do well, which is a shame, because I personally like him.

And you people say that it's other evolutions perform better. But you do know that Vaporeon, a pokemon that's commonly known and used for wishing and stalling and whatnot has the same exact stats Flareon has. Just swap it's base Attack with it's special attack and voila.
That is almost what happens with Gyarados and Milotic, yet they are in two completely different tiers >_>
Oh, and you forgot that Vaporeon also switched its HP with its attack stat, making it a bulky pokemon. HP is a very important thing as well, especially with below average speed to boot. It's the reason Shuckle will never be used out of NU stall teams.
The same can be said for Glaceon.
Stats aren't everything. Otherwise, they would all be in the same tiers. There is also move coverage and counters.


No shame, right? Because everything you say is right, right? Because if someone says differently, then thats a cause for internet drama, right? Because clearly, because you can't respect someone's personal likings, thats a cause to attempt to put what they like down, right?

Right-o. There isn't any point in denying it, since you can see through my lies. And honestly, I don't see the problem with it. You can respect someones personal taste and disagree with it. You don't always need to kiss asses to respect an opinion.


Flareon is okay, but there are many other choices that can do much more things much better.


jesus christ it's a pokemon, not NASA's bloody rocket ship design
You clearly didn't see that Flareon was just intended for brain surgery. Major difference >:[
 
I hate those little pixelated animals..
But not as much as I hate stuff like that being brought up in the DCC.

[On a side note: Cell is a perfect win.]
 
Cell is possibly the greatest DBZ Villian ever.

Far out, Luck. Stop getting in fights. >:(
 
I'm not a big fan of Cell. I thought Vegeta made a good villain, then he had to go and become a good guy. >_>
 
I'm not a big fan of Cell. I thought Vegeta made a good villain, then he had to go and become a good guy. >_>

I love Vegeta. <3
It's mostly because of his attitude, and bond with pride.
The very first theme set I used on here featured the Prince himself.
 
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