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Welcome to Winter! The Daily Chit-Chat

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Live_Wire466 said:
No math is boring and it sux ok.

true-er fax.
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Math is awful, but I always manage to do better in math.

I always had a soft spot for history, especially if it's something that challenges regular beliefs or just isn't well known. I wish I could read more about the north pre-Civil War after reading about the south almost every year.
 
math is a crap subject and it can go die
 
Hating math is like saying you hate atoms or light or gravity. Nothing could exist without it and it's the underlying mechanism behind every physical principle in the universe, so I personally can't comprehend not having a natural interest in it. ¯\(シ)/¯


/biased academic
 
Alakazam17 said:
What is all this about math sucking? =O

Math is awesome. In many cases there is only one answer, so you can't beat around the bush and still get marks. It's either right or it's wrong.
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That's what's so bad about it though :c

I prefer when there's always two reasonable sides to any subject, debates are so much more fun than "nuh uh you're wrong here see?" in my opinion.
 
Luck said:


That's what's so bad about it though :c
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When I wrote that somehow I knew someone would give me that responce.

I prefer when there's always two reasonable sides to any subject, debates are so much more fun than "nuh uh you're wrong here see?" in my opinion.
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Many debates end up like that regardless, and it is still possible in the math and science fields. This is because in these fields it is rare to be proven true, and much more common to just have something assumed true due to lack of counter-arguments.

Take the scientists from Cern who have apparently proven Einstein's theory of relativity wrong. Whether they've done so or not will be up to debate for some time to come.
 
Alakazam17 said:
Many debates end up like that regardless, and it is still possible in the math and science fields.
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Science can totally be different from math though. I'm also having a hard time remembering a purely math debate that wasn't just arguing over something very minor, like 0.99999...=1.
 
Luck said:
Science can totally be different from math though. I'm also having a hard time remembering a purely math debate that wasn't just arguing over something very minor, like 0.99999...=1.
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Depending on the situation, it can be anything but minor. It could mean the difference between having a building being safe and having it collapse. But yeah, you're right. I think the best way to end up in a debate in math has nothing to do with answers, but with the different methods used to get them. For example, you could argue that using Substitution to solve for an unknown variable is easier than using Elimination, even though either method will yield the same final answer.

Numbers don't lie, though.
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They don't lie on their own, but the humans who calculate them may have made errors, causing the numbers to lie by showing what they 'think' is the truth.
 
Live_Wire466 said:


Numbers don't lie, though.
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They don't, but the accuracy of the devices used to record the numbers that resulted from the LHC experiment will likely continue to be doubted in spite of the results of the experiment being repeatable. When dealing with bits of matter only existing for microscopic fractions of a second moving at potentially the fastest speeds ever observed, I wouldn't blame even very science-minded people who may have their doubts about the accuracy of observation devices. Some level of human fallibility must trickle into everything they create, I suppose. With so much modern science seeming to support Relativity, it's simplest to assume that the results of the experiment, rather than Relativity itself, are incorrect, though I'm not a science buff so I'm just going to choose to believe whatever result CERN decides is true.

...which is hard for me to say considering how paranoid toward CERN Steins;Gate made me even though it's just fiction XD
 
Chairman Kaga said:
Hating math is like saying you hate atoms or light or gravity. Nothing could exist without it and it's the underlying mechanism behind every physical principle in the universe, so I personally can't comprehend not having a natural interest in it. ¯\(シ)/¯


/biased academic
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You could say the same thing about hating history. Just as it's important to understand the underlying mechanisms behind the universe, it's important to understand humanity's past. Those who don't learn it are destined to repeat it, or so they say.

Chairman Kaga said:
...which is hard for me to say considering how paranoid toward CERN Steins;Gate made me even though it's just fiction XD
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You have to give the folks at Nitroplus some credit for making a relatively original antagonist, though. At least they aren't demonizing the usual suspects, like the Americans and the Chinese. And you just reminded me that I really, REALLY should start watching that show. I have the first twelve or so episodes on my HD somewhere; I'll probably get around to downloading the rest eventually.

I am mad scientist. It's so cool.
 
Alakazam17 said:
Depending on the situation, it can be anything but minor. It could mean the difference between having a building being safe and having it collapse. But yeah, you're right. I think the best way to end up in a debate in math has nothing to do with answers, but with the different methods used to get them. For example, you could argue that using Substitution to solve for an unknown variable is easier than using Elimination, even though either method will yield the same final answer.

They don't lie on their own, but the humans who calculate them may have made errors, causing the numbers to lie by showing what they 'think' is the truth.
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The interesting thing about CERN's little predicamet is that Fermi labs in Chicago reached the same result as CERN did, back in 2008. And the team that performed the test at CERN duplicated the results a week or so ago, IIRC.
 
I wonder if people are too easily biased by media outlet names?

For example, a discussion about story that I obtained from "Source A" would probably focus more on the article's accuracy and individual merit, whereas a discussion about a story that I credit to Fox/CNN/MSNBC would be much more polarizing, and contain so many more potshots, even if they were the exact same story.

I'm honestly surprised that people believe that their favored outlet is telling them the straight truth, while all others are staffed by evil spinsters. I naturally believe that everything I read is, in some way, spun in a certain direction. However, even if the article lines up with my beliefs, I typically try to get a second source, even if the second source preaches beliefs that are dissimilar to mine.

Knowledge is not stifled by evil news stations or immoral journalists, knowledge is stifled by the end user who is either too lazy, or too afraid of information that they don't agree with, to fact check.
 
Ah yes, happy modiversary. I saw the thread, but I don't . . . I don't know why I didn't post, tbqh. I kinda felt I didn't know you well enough . . . nrn. What am I even saying anymore?

And seeing as the topic of media subjectivity has been effectively stamped out, I propose we return to the good old DCC staple: food!
 
I ate two burgers, chicken nuggets, and fries last night. Would've been the perfect meal had it been at a restaurant... but the stuff we had gave me indigestion...
 
Oh dear. I don't eat a lot of fast food tbh, although I do like it. Last time I had it was at a KFC in Thorpe Park (a theme park in the UK) and I felt really terrible after, like I was going to be sick, but it didn't ruin the rest of the day so yeah...
 
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