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TRIFORCE89 said:
Just get the trilogy on 3DS when that hits. I will be picking it up.

I love that series, although I don't feel qualified to say it as I haven't played the fourth or fifth entries yet. But the original trilogy is great.

I also really need to try Ghost Trick since it's by Ace Attorney's creator.
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Dangan on 3DS? Wut? Something like that actually happens?
 
Hey guys, I need advice!!

I've wanted to get some retro game consoles for a while now. I was looking at them at the local independent game store yesterday - they have an N64 in its original box for 70 bucks and a Super Nintendo for 70 bucks (both of these come with one controller, all the cords, one game, and a 30 day warranty). At first I was looking online and thought I would just get an N64 on Amazon because I saw the "starting at $15", but you have to get up to 40 to even get a working system and above 50 to get one with cords, and at that point I think it might be worth it to jump the extra 20 and get the original box and the warranty. Buuuut the reason I decided to get the N64 instead of the SNES was because of the price difference on Amazon so if I'm paying 70 already it might be worth it to get the SNES instead because I was slightly more excited about the list of games I want for it than for N64.

Is it worth it to jump from 55 to 70 for the box and warranty to you guys? And if yes, if you could only buy either an N64 or SNES, which would you buy??
 
Oryx said:
Is it worth it to jump from 55 to 70 for the box and warranty to you guys? And if yes, if you could only buy either an N64 or SNES, which would you buy??
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Alright, well first off, I would get a SNES, no doubt. I grew up with the N64 and very briefly with the latter, and as much as I love the N64, the SNES just has so many games. Apart from it being what is often considered the Golden Age of RPGs (which I would agree with), it has a boatload of games from other genres and you would have very little trouble finding what to play next and more trouble picking what to by next. So yeah, definitely with the SNES on this one.

Second, I would go with the box. Apart from being more reliable, both due to their having warranty and not being pieced together from different sources, you get what you pay for and you'll be dealing with less old buyer wear-and-tear.
 
machomuu said:
Pretty sure he's referring to Ace Attorney.
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You are correct.

Oryx said:
Hey guys, I need advice!!

I've wanted to get some retro game consoles for a while now. I was looking at them at the local independent game store yesterday - they have an N64 in its original box for 70 bucks and a Super Nintendo for 70 bucks (both of these come with one controller, all the cords, one game, and a 30 day warranty). At first I was looking online and thought I would just get an N64 on Amazon because I saw the "starting at $15", but you have to get up to 40 to even get a working system and above 50 to get one with cords, and at that point I think it might be worth it to jump the extra 20 and get the original box and the warranty. Buuuut the reason I decided to get the N64 instead of the SNES was because of the price difference on Amazon so if I'm paying 70 already it might be worth it to get the SNES instead because I was slightly more excited about the list of games I want for it than for N64.

Is it worth it to jump from 55 to 70 for the box and warranty to you guys? And if yes, if you could only buy either an N64 or SNES, which would you buy??
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Cost it out. Come up with a list of games you know you want, for both systems, and know you can find. Make note of the prices. I think you should go for the winning library based on that.
 
Oryx said:
Hey guys, I need advice!!

I've wanted to get some retro game consoles for a while now. I was looking at them at the local independent game store yesterday - they have an N64 in its original box for 70 bucks and a Super Nintendo for 70 bucks (both of these come with one controller, all the cords, one game, and a 30 day warranty). At first I was looking online and thought I would just get an N64 on Amazon because I saw the "starting at $15", but you have to get up to 40 to even get a working system and above 50 to get one with cords, and at that point I think it might be worth it to jump the extra 20 and get the original box and the warranty. Buuuut the reason I decided to get the N64 instead of the SNES was because of the price difference on Amazon so if I'm paying 70 already it might be worth it to get the SNES instead because I was slightly more excited about the list of games I want for it than for N64.

Is it worth it to jump from 55 to 70 for the box and warranty to you guys? And if yes, if you could only buy either an N64 or SNES, which would you buy??
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For the most part, SNES games are a lot pricier than N64 games; it all depends really whether or not you want to dish out more money for the SNES considering it still has an excellent library. If I were you, I would look at eBay and look at console bundles; a lot of sellers combine the system with a slew of games going with it - great games by the way - and the price actually isn't that bad as well.

If I were you though, go with the N64. It's cheaper and the games on it are still great to this day.

Except for Glover. Never play Glover.
 
My recommendation is to check on Craigslist. That was where I found my NES a long time ago, and I remember getting a pretty sweet price that way.
 
Craigslist and eBay are not really trustworthy to me - if something goes wrong with eBay there's a whole process that might not go my way even if I'm right (just had this happen to a friend), and with Craigslist there's no protections at all.
 
You just have to be safe about it. You know, meeting somewhere not in the middle of nowhere and bringing someone with you. But it can be really reliable for getting good stuff. I have bought stuff on ebay as well, but they tend to charge more than I want to spend on stuff.
 
Not worried about being mugged or attacked; worried about buying a system, spending a good chunk of money, and then having it not work and having no way of getting the person to give me my money back.
 
I'd honestly go for the SNES just because I think it has a better library.

Also because SNES games actually still look good today. :V
 
Skyrim: nightingale trinity

To all who have played skyrim and completed the thieves guild questline
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Draskk said:
To all who have played skyrim and completed the thieves guild questline
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I merged your thread with our DCC because the scope of discussion for your topic is very limited.

I also added a spoiler tag in case anyone else didn't want the entire guild plotline spoiled.

To answer your question, I felt none of the Skyrim guilds were up to par with what was offered in Oblivion. They were all fairly weak in comparison and I think I'd rather see the next game in a smaller world with more fleshed out storylines because the story is what makes the games great, not necessarily the expansiveness of the map.
 
I personally had a lot of problems with Skyrim. This mainly stems from the fact that Skyrim was to most everyone else what Oblivion was to me- and by that I mean that it was this fantastic, grand world that was filled with opportunity and was ripe for exploration, with many features I'd never seen blended together so well into a single game. The reason for this was because, for a lot of people, Skyrim was their first Elder Scrolls game, and as a result, by comparison, Oblivion would no doubt seem lackluster for most. This was due in part to Bethesda advertising the game FAR more than they did Oblivion, resulting in things like people thinking that the series was actually called Skyrim, because they didn't know there were other games in the series, definitely not 4 of them.

For me, however, Oblivion was my second ES game, but Oblivion was different enough from Morrowind, my first ES game that I had a lot of fun with but didn't get a chance to delve too much into, that it felt like a breath of fresh air. I loved that game to death, years before I discovered the mods. It was so fascinating and, in a lot of ways, groudbreaking. NPCs lived lives, physics (which, at the time, were mindblowing when incorporated) were pushed, the gameplay was solid, and there was so much to do. Needless to say, when Skyrim was announced years later, I was excited. And as I watched videos, I'd assumed they were just holding a bulk of the content as a surprise, but...

...In a lot of ways, when it was released, I quickly felt like I was playing Oblivion 1.5...or maybe even 1.25. I was pretty interested in things like random events and various other additions, and it wasn't bad by any means, but it seemed like squandered potential. So much more could have been done with it. I mean, Dragons are pretty cool in the sense that they make for cinematic battle sequences and a good number of gameplay aspects of Oblivion were sharpened, but it didn't feel anything like the jump from Morrowind to Oblivion. For most people, this wouldn't really be a problem since, again, most people only learned about Elder Scrolls thanks to the advertising for the game.

Not to mention that a lot of the aspects seem like they were implemented either half-assed or without real impact, such as farming and log cutting, which were originally supposed to drive the game's economy, and marriage, which seems hollow. Heck, I can't even really enjoy the game without my treasure trove of mods, if only because it feels like I'm exploring a paved road. And, on a personal note that can't be taken objectively, I wasn't a big fan of the region of Skyrim. I found Cyrodiil to be beautiful, both for its architecture and for its landscapes, and even though Skyrim had more attention to detail, it's not as vibrant (and purposefully so) as Oblivion or Morrowind. And the Jarl's posture.

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...Not that any of that was really warranted given the question, but I rarely get to really talk about it. That said, in regards to a smaller, more fleshed out region, I'm pretty split. On one hand, the region, its dungeons, and its fine details (as well as its characters) would ultimately be more fleshed out as a result, but one of my greater joys of the ES series that it doesn't really handle too well (probably since it's not built for it) is creating many, many characters and exploring the land, playing in different ways. This generally worked for a while but would only last as long as my patience for retreading plot points, quests, and terrains would hold out because, as stated before, the games aren't built for that kind of play. ES has never been too personal, after all; often putting more emphasis on the action than choice (as well as the player character's development as a fighter and a protagonist rather than being a person in a world living a life, the latter being something I would really like to see them put more emphasis on). Having a smaller region may diminish that, as there's less to explore and more to retread, making for a more detailed game but possibly less replay value. So there'd be a trade-off, though I suppose if they were to make the game more personal or give the player more to do I wouldn't mind.
 
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You seem to play like me - I love creating multiple characters to live their lives and try different styles of play. That's the best feeling for me in an Elder Scrolls. But I also recognize that the world needs to be big to really feel like, "Wow. This place is so beautiful and huge, I couldn't ever see the whole thing". Yet...I did. And after seeing it all, you realize some of it is rather weakly designed (but VERY little compared to what they do with their games).

I compare Skyrim's open-worldness to GTA V's in many respects. GTA V had this amazing and big world, but NOTHING (and I mean NOTHING) to do in it. They even have a casino, a prison, a military base, and many other locales that neither feature in the story nor have much value. That's what I hate. I want an open world, but it needs to be relevant to what I'm doing. Skyrim's, overall, was better than GTA V's because of that. I could explore almost everything and nothing was off-limits to me. If it was there, there was a reason or at least a story to be told (however small).
 
I just thought I should mention that the classic 3 Fallout games are currently on sale on steam for $2.50. So if you haven't played them before now would be a good time to pick them up. I know I probably will if I can scrounge the money together.

To the above, The southeastern area of Skyrim is imo one of the most beautiful areas in the game, and yet I never saw another thing there that matched it. I wound up there very early game, so my wonderment of the region was over pretty early on. I have to admit that I did prefer the ruins of the ancient High Elves much more than the Nord and Dwarven ruins of Skyrim. Many of them get kind of repetitive, and dwarven machinery just isn't very nice on the eyes imo. The funny thing is, the caves are actually more interesting than these ruins that are supposed to be the history of Skyrim.

I personally was rather unhappy with GTA 5 in a lot of ways, since you bring it up. While I thought it certainly had a good story, it honestly didn't seem like it lived up to the great, American Dream driven struggle for survival as an immigrant that GTA 4 had. While I did love the inclusion of countryside, the city felt kinda underwhelming to me when placed next to Liberty City, which felt large in comparison (I don't mean actual size).
 
machomuu said:
And the Jarl's posture.
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You don't understand, sitting like a Jarl is an art
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But seriously, I get what you're saying. Skyrim is a much more polished up game, visually and in certain aspects of gameplay, like the combat system, but in a way it also seems more stripped down and simpler - the storyline is not nearly as fleshed out, interactions between NPCs and the player seem more hollow and meaningless (there's really no relationship building, just fixed phrases), guilds/faction questlines are much shorter, the race you picked don't really matter, aside from the occasional racial slur, etc.

Skyrim was my first ES game; I went back to Oblivion after hearing how much better it was from long-time fans of the series and I can appreciate the details and features that weren't carried over in TES V. Still, I'm a pretty shallow graphics snob so I gotta say I spent a lot more time in Skyrim mainly just because it didn't look and feel so dated. I have that problem with a lot of games - once a newer one comes out there's no going back to the old for me, especially since I had played the newer one first in this case.

And yes, thank god for mods. Gave me about another year's worth of enjoyment out of Skyrim. Vanilla game was great, but the quests get pretty repetitive after a while.

By the way, you guys know about Skywind and Skyblivion? They're basically fan-made remakes of Morrowind and Oblivion with Skyrim's engine. I haven't followed the development too closely but I don't think they're finished yet, but it looks like they're still working hard at it.
 
Let's not forget the removal of my favorite feature in oblivion: spell crafting. I was so upset that you were stuck with whatever was pre programmed into the game for magic. How am I supposed to hurl fire balls that deal ice damage now?
 
I just got Skyrim not too long ago but only played about 8 hours total. I am trying to finish Fallout: New Vegas first, but I have so many games and my birthday is soon so more games I will be getting and yeah.

Also, is there a steam group for Pokecommunity?
 
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