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Smogon sets are made with the mindset that you'll be playing on a simulator like Pokemon Showdown, which is why sets commonly recommend rare event moves like V-Create on Rayquaza or specific Hidden Power types. You always have to keep that in mind when playing on cartridge but looking at Smogon sets. So they always have Extreme Speed on Linoone sets since STAB +2 priority is a great thing to have, and on a battle sim you don't have to worry about doing some complicated **** to get one with these special moves.So... this is a pretty big oversight on Smogon's part. I was looking for ideas for my Lineoone (mostly because while I had an idea for what I wanted, I got a couple Zigzagoons in wonder trade that had egg mvoes Simple Beam, Trick, Rock Climb, and the other had Covet, Tickle, Rock Climb so no I'm totally rethinking what I want to put on it as those all seem like pretty nifty moves. I have no plans to use ALL of them, but since I got zigzagoons with them, I figured they were worth looking into) and went to the Smogon site, the problem is that quite literally EVERY SINGLE Lineoone moveset all had Extremespeed as it's staple move (every single generation all the way back to Ruby and Sapphire, although in Ruby and Sapphire they did have two movesets without this move in addition to the ones that did) and upon checking, the only way to get this move is from the Zigzagoon from Pokemon Box. Seriously, in the DECADE since that peripheral came out no one came up with an alternate move? Surely they don't ONLY use battle simulators that list all possible moves rather than play the actual games and devise real world move sets, do they?? (sorry, I needed to rant and get that off my chest because I REALLY wanted Extreme Speed on my Zigzagoon and I'm just ticked off that I can't get it.)
ANYWAY, back to the whole point of this post, since I can't get Extreme Speed, I was considering Rock Climb because that was what my egg move Zigzagoons have, and while I like the 20% chance of Confusion, it's only got an 85% hit rate, so opinions? Is this a worthwhile normal type move or is it just too inaccurate to bother with?
But as for other Linoone move sets, the only move there that seems worth it to me is Trick. If you can get a HA Linoone, you could do some **** where you give it a Toxic Orb and teach it Trick, Facade, Protect, and Play Rough. Rock Climb isn't worth it to me because of the accuracy (85% isn't bad, but I've had Fire Blasts miss at the worst times sometimes) and because a statused Facade or Return/Frustration is just much stronger.