FireRed hack: Zelda: Sacred Paradox (DOWNLOAD)

[machomuu]

Would you be able to revamp human overworlds like I've been doin'? Because I'm not sure about the creature overworlds yet, might not need them for much (can't think of anything they could be used for, only bosses and such

EDIT: actually, maybe they'd be necessary for dungeons... but they might be a generic type of overworld and the creature you battle doesn't necessarily have to be that one?

I'd say generic enemies are fine, as long as they aren't limited to one sprite. If you have a few or more, it would seem a lot less repetitive than seeing the same sprite over and over again.

 

[Danno]

I'd say generic enemies are fine, as long as they aren't limited to one sprite. If you have a few or more, it would seem a lot less repetitive than seeing the same sprite over and over again.

Maybe it can be that the different temples have different ones of these?

Walking into one of them or them walking into you would initiate a wild battle of whatever monsters would be in that room. They'd disappear if you defeated them, and if it's not too difficult, when you leave the room and come back they'd reappear.


Sh!t thinking about it, we're really gonna need that camera for dungeons...

 

[countryemo]

Would you be able to revamp human overworlds like I've been doin'? Because I'm not sure about the creature overworlds yet, might not need them for much (can't think of anything they could be used for, only bosses and such

Possibly, you mean like taking the ripped sprites and and basically turning a firered ripped sprite into them? I've only tried like 2 times, but I think I could get it pretty good. Any zelda game your particularly ripping from?

 

[Danno]

Possibly, you mean like taking the ripped sprites and and basically turning a firered ripped sprite into them? I've only tried like 2 times, but I think I could get it pretty good. Any zelda game your particularly ripping from?

More the other way around, like, repositioning them and turning them into a firered sprite like here:

If not it's cool, I can do them fairly quickly anyhow haha.

Just finished Ricky's backsprite:

Now I'm off to the bar for a well deserved beer.

His shiny colors are from Kangaskhan, because, why not. :D

 

[countryemo]

Sounds good though may I ask..

Spoiler:

Why the Happy Mask Salesman to keep your extra creatures? I like the use of Fairy Fountains. The rest of the story sounds cool, could be a real game, minus the pokemon gameplay part, maybe keep it in, lol.

I also made this.. (A Knight)

I realized I did it in FR/LG style instead of a Zelda GB/C style. Ah well.

 

[machomuu]

Sounds good though may I ask..

Spoiler:

Why the Happy Mask Salesman to keep your extra creatures? I like the use of Fairy Fountains. The rest of the story sounds cool, could be a real game, minus the pokemon gameplay part, maybe keep it in, lol.

I also made this.. (A Knight)

I realized I did it in FR/LG style instead of a Zelda GB/C style. Ah well.

Does he normally hold a weapon or something? Because I kind of thought he was a roller skater until I read that he wasn't.

 

[Danno]

Does he normally hold a weapon or something? Because I kind of thought he was a roller skater until I read that he wasn't.

Yeah he based the helmet off of this:

And it's decent but yeah wrong style haha sorry.

I'm gonna move my story to this post since it's more visible.

EDIT:

OKAY, STORY TIME.

So this is a basic reworking of the beginning of the story. Feel free to let me know what should be altered.

Spoiler:

The Festival of the Sages is happening at Lynna Village outside of Hyrule Castle. Link is to play a role in escorting the Princess Zelda from the Castle to the festival. After going north of Lynna Village to the castle and meeting up with the princess, she waits for him in the castle courtyard while the King's adviser briefs Link on the ceremony. When Link exits the castle, he immediately notices the castle guards have been slain aside from the one still guarding Zelda, and Ganondorf approaches. A storm starts and Ganondorf thwarts the guard protecting Zelda by summoning a minion. Link runs in to save her, but is knocked out.

Link awakens in a fairy fountain. Farore explains that Ganondorf has found a way to corrupt the Sacred Realm, using Zelda as a catalyst to open and maintain his gate. Monsters have appeared all over Hyrule, and citizens have become delusional. They all believe Ganondorf is the ruler of Hyrule and very few know of the Sages. Link must retrieve the Artifacts of Age from the far reaches of Hyrule to ultimately enter the sacred realm and rescue Princess Zelda, and restore Hyrule. To do so, Farore bestows Link the power to use magic crystals found through the land to tame monsters and raise them to defeat Ganondorf's evil forces.

Farore gives Link the choice between one of three companions to start his journey, a Deku, Zora Baby or Goron Kid. Link chooses one and Farore leaves on a note that if he does not stop Ganondorf before he takes control of the Sacred Realm then Hyrule will perish.

When Link leaves the Fairy Fountain, he finds himself back in Lynna Village. The citizens are all hiding in their homes, as Ganon's Castle Guards terrorize them. He cannot leave the village until he visits the Happy Mask Shop, where he meets the Happy Mask Salesman.

He has been sent on a mission by Nayru to assist the Hero of Time. The Mask Salesman will act as a guide to Link for where to go and for what. Mysteriously, he will appear in fairy fountains across Hyrule and offer to store Link's companions until he needs them again. Link will need to visit the fairy fountains to heal his wounded companions. Crystals to obtain new companions will be found scattered around, and some merchants will sell them (Beadle maybe, maybe the Goron merchant too?).

Link's first quest sends him through the Lost Woods to the Deku Palace to retrieve the first Artifact of Age, the Artifact of Flora.

Sounds good though may I ask..

Spoiler:

Why the Happy Mask Salesman to keep your extra creatures? I like the use of Fairy Fountains. The rest of the story sounds cool, could be a real game, minus the pokemon gameplay part, maybe keep it in, lol.

Well the fairy fountains will be for healing, but I never really figured out what to do with the PC lol... so that was just a thought. Any and all criticisms are welcome and changes people would rather see will be considered.

Rough draft mockup of the Happy Mask shop:

EDIT AGAIN (lolol):

So I was just thinking... maybe healing places should be an Inn like the Stock Pot Inn? That or fairy fountains? What do you guys think? The fairy fountains could be used a different plot device if that were the case, such as giving you some special item when you find them or something of the like, I'm just throwing out ideas here.

Here's an update on the tiles, I just spent about an hour re-optimizing so I have more space for new stuff and adding in new tiles.
(Note: This is still just an alpha testing map, this won't be in the game)

Spoiler:

 

[machomuu]

@The Story - I really like it so far. It seems thought out, it's structured, and I don't even think I have anything to say as far as criticism is concerned. So far so good!

@The Happy Mask Shop - I'm not so sure about this as it is, only because it's incredibly vibrant and green. Considering that the tiles are already brilliantly vibrant but still somehow more subtle, it might be a bit offputting- right now. I think it'd be more accurate if I saw it in context.

On that note, the map looks great.

@Healing Spots - Well, think about it this way: In Ocarina of Time and occasionally in Majora's Mask, Great Fairies would often bestow power or items unto Link, healing him at the same time. On the same note, there were some that only healed him (and in the 2D games, there were only ones that healed him). So I suggest mixing the two. Why not use the healing ones as intermissionary healing spots between towns/routes/dungeons/etc. and and have the ones that bestow items/powers at significant locations?

...That said, an Inn would be a good idea for healing because it might be jarring if you go to a Fairy Fountain and BOOM, the Happy Mask Salesman is there playing his merry song. It might be more appropriate to have him in Inns. But I think, as far as paying tribute to the series is concerned, the Fairy Fountains healing would be the better route.

 

[Danno]

@The Happy Mask Shop - I'm not so sure about this as it is, only because it's incredibly vibrant and green. Considering that the tiles are already brilliantly vibrant but still somehow more subtle, it might be a bit offputting- right now. I think it'd be more accurate if I saw it in context.

On that note, the map looks great.

Well, I didn't edit the shop at all... just kinda took it from a screenshot and threw on the mask, that was what I was trying to call attention to lol. It sucks there's not a better way to write the letter M only 4 pixels wide.

@Healing Spots - Well, think about it this way: In Ocarina of Time and occasionally in Majora's Mask, Great Fairies would often bestow power or items unto Link, healing him at the same time. On the same note, there were some that only healed him (and in the 2D games, there were only ones that healed him). So I suggest mixing the two. Why not use the healing ones as intermissionary healing spots between towns/routes/dungeons/etc. and and have the ones that bestow items/powers at significant locations?
...That said, an Inn would be a good idea for healing because it might be jarring if you go to a Fairy Fountain and BOOM, the Happy Mask Salesman is there playing his merry song. It might be more appropriate to have him in Inns. But I think, as far as paying tribute to the series is concerned, the Fairy Fountains healing would be the better route.

There were great fairies in Minish Cap too. But yeah, the Mask Salesman would be better off in the Inns. If he's the new PC storage system, lol, then it would make more sense, yeah. Sweet deal then.

 

[GoldfishHorde]

@The Story - I really like it so far. It seems thought out, it's structured, and I don't even think I have anything to say as far as criticism is concerned. So far so good!

@The Happy Mask Shop - I'm not so sure about this as it is, only because it's incredibly vibrant and green. Considering that the tiles are already brilliantly vibrant but still somehow more subtle, it might be a bit offputting- right now. I think it'd be more accurate if I saw it in context.

On that note, the map looks great.

@Healing Spots - Well, think about it this way: In Ocarina of Time and occasionally in Majora's Mask, Great Fairies would often bestow power or items unto Link, healing him at the same time. On the same note, there were some that only healed him (and in the 2D games, there were only ones that healed him). So I suggest mixing the two. Why not use the healing ones as intermissionary healing spots between towns/routes/dungeons/etc. and and have the ones that bestow items/powers at significant locations?

...That said, an Inn would be a good idea for healing because it might be jarring if you go to a Fairy Fountain and BOOM, the Happy Mask Salesman is there playing his merry song. It might be more appropriate to have him in Inns. But I think, as far as paying tribute to the series is concerned, the Fairy Fountains healing would be the better route.

Basically what he said. I'm not going to reptype it because I don't want to sound like a broken record. But I will say one thing:

For the HMS, I would suggest using darker, more grand colors. Perhaps purple walls with multicolor lining on the roof and the mask logo on front? Maybe some red curtains inside too, like in OoT.

 

[Danno]

Basically what he said. I'm not going to reptype it because I don't want to sound like a broken record. But I will say one thing:

For the HMS, I would suggest using darker, more grand colors. Perhaps purple walls with multicolor lining on the roof and the mask logo on front? Maybe some red curtains inside too, like in OoT.

Yeah I was going to just probably use the blue roof tiles but maybe I should spice it up a bit.

Used this as a reference:

As a side note, once September 6th rolls around if I'm still mainly the only one working on this there will be 3 months-ish where not a lot of work gets done. Met a girl from another country in 2009, and she's coming to meet me and spend 3 months with me starting September 6th. So, sad for the progress of the game, but woop for me. :P

 

[GoldfishHorde]

Yeah I was going to just probably use the blue roof tiles but maybe I should spice it up a bit.

Used this as a reference:

As a side note, once September 6th rolls around if I'm still mainly the only one working on this there will be 3 months-ish where not a lot of work gets done. Met a girl from another country in 2009, and she's coming to meet me and spend 3 months with me starting September 6th. So, sad for the progress of the game, but woop for me. :P

I would help, but again, I am talentless. You two lovebirds have fun!

On a side note, are we going to be using the Pokedex in any shape or form? Perhaps it could instead be a magical tome given to you by Farore that has blank pages but fills up with information about monsters as you encounter them?

 

[Danno]

I would help, but again, I am talentless. You two lovebirds have fun!

On a side note, are we going to be using the Pokedex in any shape or form? Perhaps it could instead be a magical tome given to you by Farore that has blank pages but fills up with information about monsters as you encounter them?

I think I'm leaving it out.

New logo, mockup title screen. I think Echoes of Time should stand out a little more, but aside from that I personally love this title screen. (I haven't inserted it, just planning ahead)




Also, working on the textbox. For now it looks like this:

Because when I edit the box's shape to make it look more like the one from Minish Cap, it turns out like this:

It stays that small regardless of what they're saying, and it cuts off words.



I also edited the bootscreen tilemap, so no more saying I was born in 1986:

Here's an example of interior tiling:

And finally, this link specifically might be useful for looking at enemies by type:
http://zeldawiki.org/Category:Enemies_by_type

 

[SirCharmander]

The only thing thing I can think of to make this hack perfect is custom battle ground like the ones in liquid crystal :)

 

[Danno]

The only thing thing I can think of to make this hack perfect is custom battle ground like the ones in liquid crystal :)

That's definitely planned. I only started working on this like what, a week ago? :D :D But yeah, I plan to completely customize the battle scene at some point.

BTW I put in a request to move to Progressing Hacks. I think hashtag is asleep though so it won't be for a bit.

 

[DJTiki]

I can definetly say that this hack is coming together quite nicely :D. I really hope it gets to Progressing Hacks.

 

[Danno]

I can definetly say that this hack is coming together quite nicely :D. I really hope it gets to Progressing Hacks.

Thanks, me too :D

Here's an update on the titlescreen mockup, looking much better yet still missing something...

 

[machomuu]

It's because the background isn't particularly eyecatching. It looks good, but the middle and the sides might as well be empty space because of it's subtle nature.

I think it looks good, though. It certainly isn't demanding anymore editing, but I think that if you want to add that "something" you need to add another eyecatching element to the foreground.

 

[DJTiki]

Thanks, me too :D

Here's an update on the titlescreen mockup, looking much better yet still missing something...

Maybe do something with the background, add a touch of yellow for some sunray action, and give some highlight to the Copyright at the bottom.? The title screen looks pretty perfect to me xD

 

[Danno]

It's edited from this wallpaper:
http://www.wallchan.com/images/mediums/24926.jpg

((And by the way, since it's not official art, I tracked down the creator of the image and I'm awaiting confirmation on whether or not I could use that as the background.))

But I think aside from the bland background (and yeah, that Nintendo copyright should have a dropped shadow I believe) it needs something like these: