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  • Am I the only one seeing Lulu aggresively push the same as last day just because? For real.

    Well, not that I can even pressure vote because I accidentally wrote a five letter word last post. But at least I can write like a normal being for a day and abandon this cerebral-aneurysm-kind-of language.
     

    Superjolt

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  • Am I the only one seeing Lulu aggresively push the same as last day just because? For real.

    Well, not that I can even pressure vote because I accidentally wrote a five letter word last post. But at least I can write like a normal being for a day and abandon this cerebral-aneurysm-kind-of language.
    How is she being aggressive? She's not even voting or making a serious push right now (though she probably should!) Do you think she's scummy? What do you think about Aldo and Lyn?

    Who are 3 players you think could be scum, if you had to choose 3?

    Also...

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  • I don't really share the sentiment of Desox looking scummy, but it does come to question what kind of backwards role he could possibly have. Why it would be town also confuses me
     
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    I figure it's only town due to alignments being completely random. Otherwise, I'd question it myself.

    I'm not buying Lulu's reasoning for finding me suspicious at all, mainly because...there's no reasoning. I'm leaning town on Superjolt/Desox and sort of on the fence about everyone else right now...though I do find it a bit odd that Superjolt is asking everyone for exactly 3 people they find suspicious. Part of me feels like this is him genuinely trying to spark up discussion, but maybe his role has another function he has yet to reveal.
     

    L'Belle

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  • Even behind hunches there should still be a reason for said hunch. I see absolutely nothing to suggest that Lyn is mafia. I'm not quite sure I find Lulu very towney because of this.
     
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  • For me top town read is SJ and JD that's it. I've neutral stance on other people.
    If I've to say who I think is scum I'll lean a bit toward Naku. Even though their reasoning for voting Aldo was kind of OK. It still looked to me mafia piling up vote. But I dunno if they'll make such bold move day 1.
    Desox is looks like a third party to me. Since you've already said five words and have no voting power can you speak normally now?
     

    Superjolt

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  • I figure it's only town due to alignments being completely random. Otherwise, I'd question it myself.

    I'm not buying Lulu's reasoning for finding me suspicious at all, mainly because...there's no reasoning. I'm leaning town on Superjolt/Desox and sort of on the fence about everyone else right now...though I do find it a bit odd that Superjolt is asking everyone for exactly 3 people they find suspicious. Part of me feels like this is him genuinely trying to spark up discussion, but maybe his role has another function he has yet to reveal.
    It's really a way to spark conversation, everyone else is doing jack squat in terms of actual scum hunting, so I'm trying to get something going. Also If everyone gives at least 3 people they think are scum, we can see if there's a consensus read that might be lynch-worthy (and because a NL would be really dumb two days in a row). But your post here is kind of weaksauce, and doesn't really answer my question!
    Even behind hunches there should still be a reason for said hunch. I see absolutely nothing to suggest that Lyn is mafia. I'm not quite sure I find Lulu very towney because of this.
    I actually find Lulu townie because she's actually giving reads and opinions to work with. She's also the only one so far to give a pretty straight answer to the question I asked!

    Do you think she's scum? Do you think Lyn is town?
    For me top town read is SJ and JD that's it. I've neutral stance on other people.
    If I've to say who I think is scum I'll lean a bit toward Naku. Even though their reasoning for voting Aldo was kind of OK. It still looked to me mafia piling up vote. But I dunno if they'll make such bold move day 1.
    Desox is looks like a third party to me. Since you've already said five words and have no voting power can you speak normally now?
    Interesting, because I have Naku on my scum list too, though mostly because I'm looking through an confused-Townie-Aldo perspective. If you had to pick two others who would you pick?
     

    L'Belle

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  • It's really a way to spark conversation, everyone else is doing jack squat in terms of actual scum hunting, so I'm trying to get something going. Also If everyone gives at least 3 people they think are scum, we can see if there's a consensus read that might be lynch-worthy (and because a NL would be really dumb two days in a row). But your post here is kind of weaksauce, and doesn't really answer my question!

    I actually find Lulu townie because she's actually giving reads and opinions to work with. She's also the only one so far to give a pretty straight answer to the question I asked!

    Do you think she's scum? Do you think Lyn is town?

    Interesting, because I have Naku on my scum list too, though mostly because I'm looking through an confused-Townie-Aldo perspective. If you had to pick two others who would you pick?

    Don't really heavily suspect either of them at the moment, but I have to disagree with the reads thing. It wasn't so much of a read and more of a suspicion that didn't amount to anything with no backing at all, and that makes Lulu more suspicious in my eyes.
     

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    I have to agree with L'Belle, since if one scumreads someone, one must have a reason, even if a silly one.

    L'Belle's concern about LuluRina's suspicion on Lyn being baseless makes me townread him. I like that he didn't go straight to pushing her for this. Superjolt has been promoting discussion, something that I believe scum avoids doing because it promotes discussion, which eventually leads to the mafia giving reads that can be used later on. I find this a towny. My other townread is Desinishon, for a more feel-based reason, as I could agree with every statement of his bar his thoughts on Desox and jdthebud, both of which I haven't got a read on yet.

    Interesting, because I have Naku on my scum list too, though mostly because I'm looking through an confused-Townie-Aldo perspective. If you had to pick two others who would you pick?
    I'm not confused
    Since you haven't said anything about them yet, am I to assume the numbers from your role haven't changed?
     

    Desox

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  • A third party whose role is you cannot use more than four lettered words makes no sense. Think of it.
    You could say I'm scum, but which scum would make up all the work then not vote. I wanted to confirm all of this with last day's vote, but then all the votes piled up and it didn't make sense really. I should've voted earlier edit: later i meant. Maybe if there's a draw next day I can vote and show you but eh.

    I don't have three players I could think are scum but I can think of some I can think are not. I'm leaning on you, Superjolt, being town, because even when that "3 suspicious people" is not something usual, it seems more of an ice breaker than you actively trying to witch-hunt.

    About Lulu specifically, I don't see as scum, but with all these weird roles, maybe as a third party with objective? I read Lulu as neutral rn but we could have a Lyncher or something. If we had some base about the reads, I wouldn't even be talking about it. Like, why do I seem the most scummy? There's reasonable sentences that could be given to this, ones I even am noticing about myself, like for example, that I could be lying about the role and just trying to disrupt the game with cryptic broken writing. I'm not though, but it's reasonable to see someone thinking that, more seeing my defense is poor (but what else can I do, it's four letter posts or no votes, believe me or not).
     
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  • I don't really share the sentiment of Desox looking scummy, but it does come to question what kind of backwards role he could possibly have. Why it would be town also confuses me
    But why would it be any other alignment

    Roles with bastard properties tend to just be
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    I'm leaning town on Superjolt/Desox and sort of on the fence about everyone else right now...though I do find it a bit odd that Superjolt is asking everyone for exactly 3 people they find suspicious. Part of me feels like this is him genuinely trying to spark up discussion, but maybe his role has another function he has yet to reveal.
    He does this frequently

    If I've to say who I think is scum I'll lean a bit toward Naku. Even though their reasoning for voting Aldo was kind of OK. It still looked to me mafia piling up vote. But I dunno if they'll make such bold move day 1.
    Piling up a second vote, seventeen hours before EoD, to something that amounted to an abstention? Not just bold, but useless. Not my style.

    Interesting, because I have Naku on my scum list too, though mostly because I'm looking through an confused-Townie-Aldo perspective. If you had to pick two others who would you pick?
    You can't really attest much to this either way when day one was weak and Aldo didn't flip, and even if he flipped as town a day one mislynch is not highly alignment indicative (at least at this stage of information)
     

    LuluRina

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  • About Lulu specifically, I don't see as scum, but with all these weird roles, maybe as a third party with objective? I read Lulu as neutral rn but we could have a Lyncher or something. If we had some base about the reads, I wouldn't even be talking about it. Like, why do I seem the most scummy? There's reasonable sentences that could be given to this, ones I even am noticing about myself, like for example, that I could be lying about the role and just trying to disrupt the game with cryptic broken writing. I'm not though, but it's reasonable to see someone thinking that, more seeing my defense is poor (but what else can I do, it's four letter posts or no votes, believe me or not).

    tbh you no longer seem the most scummy currently. I first susp'd you with the GP thing, but now that you have shown that your vote didn't amount much, I kinda now see you as a little towards scum, but mostly neutral. The reason behind little towards scum is that my initial feelings won't just disappear completely.

    And for my initial say that Lyn seemed scummy, it was actually the confused colour role things. Plus I was tired xD

    So, yea, Aldo now seems most scummy in my eyes. But still not completely sure he's scum. Just the cult thing is still there in my head.

    Gonna wait a bit longer for my vote.
     

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  • You've got it the other way around, green = town, purple = third party, red should = maf

    Is this based on what you've gotten through your census taker role? Or just based on typical mafia colours? If the latter tbh I'd be slightly hesitant to trust it just because of the nature of this particular game. Though that said I do think it makes sense for a town + 3P to have been killed, and not a mafia as some people mentioned.

    Even behind hunches there should still be a reason for said hunch. I see absolutely nothing to suggest that Lyn is mafia. I'm not quite sure I find Lulu very towney because of this.

    To be fair, Superjolt's question was:

    Here's a question for everyone: who are 3 players that you think are scum right now? (doesn't matter if there's not a lot to go on - if you had to pick 3, who would you pick?)

    and Lulu answered with "since you're asking for 3, Lyn is my hunch".

    Don't really heavily suspect either of them at the moment, but I have to disagree with the reads thing. It wasn't so much of a read and more of a suspicion that didn't amount to anything with no backing at all, and that makes Lulu more suspicious in my eyes.

    Yes I think it's strange for there to be literally no reason for this "hunch" but I wouldn't go as far as to call Lulu not towny because of this. Strange response from Lulu but not enough for me to necessarily say I'm suspicious of Lulu, especially since Lulu was up front about having no reason for it.

    I knew it for sure guys!

    Yeah, to conf irm my role, I can't use more than four leter "words" or my vote is use less. That was the reas on for use ing a five leter word in the last time. So gp coul dnt have died any ways. That goes for vote too, so i'll make you nick names.

    EDIT: WHO OPS I USED A FIVE LETR WORD RIP VOTE TO DAY

    Ah thanks for the explanation @ why you voted GP. I did mention you used a five letter word in your post in the previous day phase but thought you must have used it accidentally.

    Though at the same time idk your explanation kind of strikes me as a non-explanation, or an explanation after the fact... like why vote GP for the purpose of showing that your vote didn't count? Surely it would've made more sense to just explain it in the first place idk.

    That said -- apart from that I think you've been pretty active in your analysis of players (at least now that you can type more freely for this day phase) so would put you high on my list of townreads.

    @Superjolt, to answer your question - again if I had to pick three players: Syn, Doof and one of Fletch/Ash/mala.

    Syn - has coasted both today and yesterday without really offering any reads or showing too much of his own thinking (beyond the relatively safe play of townreading Superjolt and Desox)
    Doof - as above but even more coasty/saying a little without saying too much
    Fletch/Ash/mala - none have spoken this day phase, and none really did anything on D1 either: Fletch said he missed the phase change, Ash insightfully pointed out there must be 3rd party roles, though at least mala showed she was thinking about things and said she questioned Syn asking for intel at the start of D1.

    I'm actually kind of iffy about you Superjolt, you actively scumhunt in every game you play regardless of your alignment so I'm hesitant to put you at the top of my townreads just for playing your regular playstyle. But I don't think actively claiming census taker right at the start and giving town that useful bit of info would be something scum would do (though ofc we have no way of knowing if your info is true or not lol)

    Anyway this has been a long and rambly post and I don't think I'll get online before the phase change, so I'll drop a vote for Doof based on the above.

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    LuluRina

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  • Welp, I have to go to bed soon and will most likly miss the phase change, soo...

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  • Like I said Naku I'm not hard scum reading you. But if lynch had went through and Aldo had flipped town, I would be voting for you today. I'm also going to bed soon so I'll not be around when phase changes. Syn, lebelle and charlie are active and looks like they're trying to scum hunt. I don't know how Mala, lulu play but I've not seen anything noteworthy from them. Lulu found Desox sus but backed out when they defended themself. Still their scum read was based on gut feeling. I don't think they're mafia, just a new player. If they were mafia I'm sure their scum buds had guided them a little.

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  • I'm not confused
    Since you haven't said anything about them yet, am I to assume the numbers from your role haven't changed?
    Presumably nothing has changed, it was a one time use so I only get the information once
    Don't really heavily suspect either of them at the moment, but I have to disagree with the reads thing. It wasn't so much of a read and more of a suspicion that didn't amount to anything with no backing at all, and that makes Lulu more suspicious in my eyes.
    See CB's post for my thoughts on Lulu (because I agree with him). You're not really offering any alternative though so why is she not vote worthy despite you thinking she's suspicious?
    You can't really attest much to this either way when day one was weak and Aldo didn't flip, and even if he flipped as town a day one mislynch is not highly alignment indicative (at least at this stage of information)
    Well, you're right. I guess it's more gut-vibes then idk

    Who are your suspects tho
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    It's based on typical mafia colors (Town is green, maf is red etc.) and purple is third party since GP the SK showed up as purple

    Fair enough about being iffy on me, though I think I'd be somewhat less pushy if I were scum. I pretty much agree with most of your post.

    Not sure how I feel about lulu's vote yet
     

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  • Sorry for being so flaky, I mentioned it in the other game but I'm on vacation with meh Wifi.
    Welp, I have to go to bed soon and will most likly miss the phase change, soo...

    [Vote] Aldo
    Now that we have more time, are you going to keep your vote here? I don't get this vote anyway, the "cult thing" you mentioned wasn't even initially brought up by him, but by me.

    Like I said Naku I'm not hard scum reading you. But if lynch had went through and Aldo had flipped town, I would be voting for you today. I'm also going to bed soon so I'll not be around when phase changes. Syn, lebelle and charlie are active and looks like they're trying to scum hunt. I don't know how Mala, lulu play but I've not seen anything noteworthy from them. Lulu found Desox sus but backed out when they defended themself. Still their scum read was based on gut feeling. I don't think they're mafia, just a new player. If they were mafia I'm sure their scum buds had guided them a little.

    [Vote] Ash

    I think mafia are just blending in inactives and playing inactivity card. Even if not all mafia at least 1
    So, to be clear, the vote for Ash is a vote for an inactive? Not my favorite reason, esp on D2 and we still have no real info aside from SJ's town census thing.
     
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    L'Belle

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  • Presumably nothing has changed, it was a one time use so I only get the information once

    See CB's post for my thoughts on Lulu (because I agree with him). You're not really offering any alternative though so why is she not vote worthy despite you thinking she's suspicious?

    I don't like how you're putting words in my mouth. I never said she's not vote worthy, I just have this tendency to not vote immediatly after giving my thoughts, nowheere did I said that she is not worthy of my vote nor that I will be offering any alternative (I don't really have any) but I am really not liking the way you are speaking to me right now. I've just not been very into the game, that's all. I'll be reading through once again in a bit to gather my thoughts.
     
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