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Rock_Salazar · Oct 1, 2023

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Now that is embarrassing. What bothers me is that Spewpa has about 20 forms that determine what form Vivillon will have. 20 forms on a pokemon like this.

FeraligatrMaster · Oct 1, 2023

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I knew Vivillon had many forms, but I didn't know this was also true for Spewpa.

Rock_Salazar · Oct 1, 2023

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Upon further research I realize I was wrong. Internally Spewpa and Scatterbug have 20 forms, as in, data for one of 20 forms predetermined. So that way a Vivillon's form data is already chosen by the time you obtain a Scatterbug egg. However, even if the parents have the same form the one you get will correspond to your regional location.

FeraligatrMaster · Oct 2, 2023

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That doesn't make collecting so many Spewpa worth it, if you ask me. In that case, you're better off looking for wild Vivillon.

Rock_Salazar · Oct 2, 2023

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I have somehow failed to mention that Spewpa is just Scatterbug's head attached to a cocoon. All cocoon mons do not even go down to that level of unoriginality.

FeraligatrMaster · Oct 2, 2023

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Spewpa has been discarded. Vivillon is next.

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Rock_Salazar · Oct 2, 2023

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"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six (666)." - Revelation 13:18 KJV, Apostle John.

Vivillon is meh. Pretty yes, and it has 20 forms. However, it is no stronger than Beautifly and Butterfree.

FeraligatrMaster · Oct 2, 2023

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I'm no Vivillon collector.

Rock_Salazar · Oct 2, 2023

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Imagine the pain of getting all patterns. The pokeball pattern was event exclusive if I remember correctly.

Devalue · Oct 2, 2023

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Likes its various wing patterns. Helps to live in the region with the Polar Pattern. Considers that one of the better designs.

Is it strong? No. Shares a lot of similarities with Butterfree. Pulls off the Compound Eyes + Sleep Powder trick better (thanks to better Speed). Learns a special-based Bug move much sooner too (Struggle Bug from move relearning versus Butterfree's Bug Buzz at 32). Really struggles with a base stat total of 411, however.

Zeostar · Oct 2, 2023

9. I thought it was neat looking.

FeraligatrMaster · Oct 3, 2023

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It'd be better if it was Bug/Fairy.

Rock_Salazar · Oct 3, 2023

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5 weaknesses. 4x weakness to rock.

FeraligatrMaster · Oct 3, 2023

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It got excluded from the Galar dex, and wasn't included in the Isle of Armor or the Crown Tundra either.

Rock_Salazar · Oct 3, 2023

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My main complaint for Vivillon stems from being the only bug type in its entire generation. We could've had more. And later gens treat it like fillermon.

FeraligatrMaster · Oct 3, 2023

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Hard to believe that after a generation of strong Bug types, they went back to making weak ones.

Rock_Salazar · Oct 3, 2023

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Vivillon had something going for it with being a cheeky status user. It has moves like powder and compound eyes for an ability, but that speed stat hinders it. Base 89 is too low by gen 6 standards.

FeraligatrMaster · Oct 3, 2023

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In a generation with one of the best regional birbs and one of the best regional rodents, why couldn't we get a good regional bug?

Rock_Salazar · Oct 3, 2023

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Vivillon's shiny is disappointing. Only changes the color of Vivillon's body from grey to white, and it is not very visible. It's over Bug Bros... we stay losing yet again.

FeraligatrMaster · Oct 3, 2023

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Vivillon goes on the discard pile. Litleo is next.

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