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Polar Spectrum

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    Vileplume! With a big root!
    Modest Nature
    Ability: Effect Spore
    252 Sp Atk, 150 Sp Def, 102 Def
    Giga Drain, Sludge Bomb, Moonlight, and Sleep Powder.

    Tangrowth can't put Vile to sleep, can't manage a consistent even 4HKO with any moves, and Vileplume has a guaranteed one shot with sludge bomb.
     

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    Shedinja @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Wonder Guard
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - X-Scissor
    - Shadow Sneak
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Do you even lift
     

    Polar Spectrum

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    Shedinja should always have one of Sandstorm, Double Edge, or Final Gambit

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    Klefki w/ Toxic Orb
    Ability: Prankster
    Bold Nature
    252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Def
    Switcheroo, Foul Play, Draining Kiss, Thunder Wave

    Coming in on Swords Dance or X Scissor klefki has nothing to worry about, it can then either foul play tiwce, or be really funny and switcheroo the focus sash for the toxic orb and sit back and watch. Shadow Sneak won't do significant amounts either, and klefki doesn't really mind a burn.
     

    Musicality

    ~Musical Melodies~
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    Manectric @ Manectite
    Ability: Lightningrod
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Thunderbolt
    - Volt Switch
    - Overheat
    - Hidden Power Ice

    Immunity to Thunder Wave and the fact that Switcheroo fails is a godsend. Once it Mega evolves, an Overheat coming off it's Special Attack is more than enough to KO, since Klefki isn't all that bulky.
     
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    Stunfisk @ Leftovers
    Ability: Static
    EVs: 252 HP / 132 SpA / 124 SpD
    Calm Nature
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Discharge
    - Earth Power

    252 SpA Mega Manectric Overheat vs. 252 HP / 124+ SpD Stunfisk: 119-140 (28.1 - 33.1%) -- 90.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252 SpA Mega Manectric Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 124+ SpD Stunfisk: 110-130 (26 - 30.8%) -- 4.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery


    132 SpA Stunfisk Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Manectric: 230-272 (81.8 - 96.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Behold the power of Stunfisk!
     

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    Thundurus-Therian @ Leftovers
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Agility
    - Nasty Plot
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hidden Power Ice

    Setup Bait
     

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    -Mamoswine w/Life Orb
    Nature: Naive
    Ability: Thick Fat
    EVs: 244 Attack, 12 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed
    Moves: Earthquake, Icicle Crash, Ice Shard, Freeze Dry

    Is immune to Thunderbolt, and despite having a -Sp.Def nature, it can tank a few HP Ices, even at +2:
    +2 252+ SpA Thundurus-T Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Thick Fat Mamoswine: 131-155 (36.4 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    It doesn't matter if Thundy-T is at +2 Speed either, Mamo will survive 2 HP Ices and OHKOs on the next turn with Icicle Crash.
     

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    Avalugg @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Avalanche
    - Earthquake

    This is only the tip of the iceberg, for you see Mamoswine cannot even manage to 4HKO Avalugg with any of its moves (aka Earthquake because the other 3 are jokes).
     
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    Phione @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Hydration
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - U-Turn
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Grass Knot

    Surf is a 2HKO while Avalugg needs at least three hits for a KO. It's low Speed and SpD doesn't help either.
    Also I'm finally able to post this guy. You wouldn't believe how hard it it to find something Phione counters xD
     

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    Manaphy @ Leftovers
    Ability: Hydration
    EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
    Bold Nature
    - Calm Mind
    - Rest
    - Rain Dance
    - Scald

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Phione Grass Knot (20 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 54-64 (13.3 - 15.8%) -- possibly the worst move ever

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Phione Surf vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 87-103 (21.5 - 25.4%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery


    When your best just isnt good enough

    Walls you entirely and uses you as total setup bait, eventually offs you with repeated +6 Scalds.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Maractus@Leftovers
    252 S.Atk / 252 Speed / 6 Hp
    Modest Nature
    Trait: Water Absorb
    - Substitute
    - Leech Seed
    - Giga Drain
    - Hp Fire


    No weaks.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Chandelure@Leftovers
    248 Hp / 168 Def / 92 Sp.Def
    Bold Nature
    Ivs: 0 Attack
    Trait: Flash Fire
    - Shadow Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Flamethrower
    - Rest
     

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    -Meganuim w/Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Overgrow
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Sp.Defense, 4 Defense
    Moves: Giga Drain, Aromatherapy, Synthesis, Dragon Tail

    Ice Punch fails to OHKO:
    252+ Atk Life Orb Swampert Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Meganium: 208-247 (57.1 - 67.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Meganium is faster than Swampert and wrecks it with Giga Drain
     

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    Swampert @ Life orb
    Ability: Torrent
    Nature: Adamant
    EV's: 252 Atk/204HP/52 Spe

    Tanks everything. Shadow ball is a 3HKO. Flamethrower is a possible 5HKO

    Earthquake is a OHKO
    Waterfall haves 12.5% Chances of OHKO
    And nobody in his/her own mind is going to use ice punch/Superpower on Chandelure

    You do realize that doesnt beat Chandelure right?

    0 SpA Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 204 HP / 0 SpD Swampert: 130-154 (33.1 - 39.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after burn damage

    252+ Atk Life Orb burned Swampert Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 168+ Def Chandelure: 173-204 (53.5 - 63.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery


    In a nutshell, burn + Life Orb recoil and shadow ball beat swampers faster than it beats you if it comes in on a wisp.

    Also a counter must be able to switch into what its countering at little or no risk to itself and drive out the opposing pokemon. Neither of which happen here.

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    Weaville @ Life orb
    Ability: Pressure
    Nature: Jolly
    EV's: 252 Atk /252 Spe/ 4HP

    Ok. Giga Drain is a 3HKO, Since he's faster Hits it with ice punch and it's a 2HKO (I don't know how that ****ing thing can tank that). Then he uses ice shard and it's gone!
    Knock off is a 2HKO
    Low kick is a 3HKO
    Ice shard haves a extremely small chance to make 2HKO (0.4%)


    Poliwrath @ Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 72 SpA / 16 SpD
    Relaxed Nature
    - Circle Throw
    - Scald
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk

    Hard walled basically.
     

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    Milotic @ Leftovers
    Ability: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
    Bold Nature
    - Scald
    - Recover
    - Ice Beam
    - Dragon Tail

    Pls burn me so I wall you harder

    0 Atk Poliwrath Circle Throw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Milotic: 52-63 (13.1 - 15.9%) -- possibly the worst move ever

    72 SpA Poliwrath Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic: 29-35 (7.3 - 8.8%) -- possibly the worst move ever
     
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    PD: I'm not sure if it's a counter, Because Milotic can draw it out of combat with dragon tail.
    Nah, it is a counter. Phazing =/= countering.

    And to counter Mega Abomasnow:

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    -Charizard w/Charti Berry
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Blaze
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Dragon Pulse, Roost

    Buuuuuuurn, mother****er, burn.
     

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    Marill @ Choice Band
    Ability: Huge Power
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
    Adamant Nature
    - Aqua Jet
    - Play Rough
    - Superpower
    - Waterfall

    252 SpA Charizard Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Marill: 111-132 (32.2 - 38.3%) -- 97.4% chance to 3HKO

    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Marill Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Charizard: 408-480 (137.3 - 161.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Marill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Charizard: 204-242 (68.6 - 81.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

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    Aggron @ Aggronite
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SpD
    Impish Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Heavy Slam
    - Ice Punch
    - Earthquake

    Your best option is an 8HKO
     
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    Gastrodon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Storm Drain
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold Nature
    - Scald
    - Earth Power
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover

    0 Atk Mega Aggron Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gastrodon: 88-104 (20.6 - 24.4%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

    vs.

    0 SpA Gastrodon Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Filter Mega Aggron: 126-148 (36.6 - 43%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    + Recover
    alternatively Scald + Burn will do the trick, too
     

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    Charizard @ Charizardite Y
    Ability: Blaze
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Fire Blast
    - Solar Beam
    - Focus Blast
    - Dragon Pulse

    0 SpA Gastrodon Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 68-84 (22.8 - 28.2%) -- 78.2% chance to 4HKO

    252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Gastrodon: 716-844 (168 - 198.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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