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Omicron

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    Hariyama @ Flame Orb
    Ability: Guts
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk
    Brave Nature
    - Fake Out
    - Close Combat
    - Knock Off
    - Ice Punch

    4+ Atk Guts Hariyama Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Kyurem-B: 554-654 (141.6 - 167.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Kyurem-b can't OHKO.
     
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    KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Still can't switch into Outrage.

    Quagsire @ Leftovers
    Trait: Unaware
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature

    - Stockpile
    - Waterfall
    - Earthquake
    - Recover

    Doesn't really care about Close Combat, can boost its defenses, and wear Hariyama down with repeated Earthquakes.
     

    Omicron

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    Carnivine @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Sp. Def
    Careful Nature

    - Knock Off
    - Power Whip
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Stockpile

    4 Atk Carnivine Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 412-492 (104.5 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Immune to earthquake and waterfall is probably the worst move ever.
     

    Nah

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    Magmortar w/Choice Scarf
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Vital Spirit
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Fire Blast, Thunderbolt, Focus Blast, Hidden Power Grass

    4 Atk Carnivine Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Magmortar: 97-115 (33.2 - 39.3%) -- 100% chance to 3HKO
    That's Carnivine's best option.

    Fire Blast OHKOs.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Tyranitar@Choice Band
    176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Speed
    Adamant Nature
    Trait: Sandstream
    - Stone Edge
    - Crunch
    - SuperPower
    - Fire Punch (would be pursuit but for this its silly lol)
     

    Omicron

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    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Ability: Justified
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Close Combat
    - Swords Dance
    - Extreme Speed
    - Crunch

    252+ Atk Life Orb Lucario Close Combat vs. 176 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 920-1081 (238.9 - 280.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Yeah, forgot about Fire Punch. It is indeed not a counter.
     
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    PlatinumDude

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    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Ability: Justified
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Close Combat
    - Swords Dance
    - Extreme Speed
    - Crunch

    252+ Atk Life Orb Lucario Close Combat vs. 176 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 920-1081 (238.9 - 280.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Not a counter because it can't switch into Fire Punch or Superpower.

    Anyway:

    Spiritomb:
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    -Foul Play
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Infiltrator

    The best Lucario can do to Spiritomb is Crunch, which Spiritomb tanks.
     

    Nah

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    Scizor w/Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Swords Dance, Bullet Punch, Knock Off, Superpower

    Can survive all of Mega Diancie's attacks at +1:

    176 Atk Diancie Diamond Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 183-216 (65.1 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    +1 176 SpA Diancie Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Scizor: 197-232 (70.1 - 82.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    +1 176 SpA Diancie Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Scizor: 156-183 (55.5 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


    Bullet Punch cleanly OHKOs.

    Hidden Power Fire's a nice move for Mega Diancie
     

    DarkIllumination

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  • Slowbro
    nature: Relaxed
    Item: slowbronite
    ability: regenerator/Shell armor after ME
    moves: slackoff, scald, fireblast, icebeam
    Evs: 252 hp, 252 def, 4 spattk
    Mega slowbro avoids critical hits with shell armor and with enormous defense it lives any move with slackoff, can burn Scizor with scald, OK with fireblast, and does not care about bullet punch, super power is resisted, knock off does a 1/3 at most, and can OK before it can set up enough swords dances for Mega Slowbro to care.
     
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    Mega Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
    Ability: Torrent -> Mega Launcher
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
    Modest Nature
    - Hydro Pump
    - Dark Pulse
    - Aura Sphere
    - Ice Beam
     

    faf

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    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 240hp/16atk/252spd
    Sassy nature (+Sp. Def, -Spe)
    -Stealth Rock
    -Scald
    -Earthquake
    -Roar

    252 SpA Choice Specs Raikou Extrasensory vs. 240 HP / 252+ SpD Swampert: 93-110 (23.1 - 27.4%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

    16 Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Raikou: 306-360 (93 - 109.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
     

    Nah

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    -Serperior w/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Contrary (yes this is legal now even though Showdown has yet to update that)
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Leaf Storm, Giga Drain, Hidden Power Fire, Dragon Pulse
     

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    Skarmory @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Impish Nature
    - Roost
    - Whirlwind
    - Brave Bird
    - Defog

    A pretty cliché counter, but Skarmory gets the job done. Bouffalant's best option against it is a possible 7HKO, but even then it fails to do much of anything to Skarmory when you factor in Roost. Skarmory can dispatch Bouffalant with Brave Bird in four turns, though if it Roosts off the Brave Bird recoil in the process it may fall to a 5HKO.

    252+ Atk Bouffalant Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 61-72 (18.2 - 21.5%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery

    0 Atk Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Bouffalant: 112-133 (29.9 - 35.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

    Nah

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    -Krookodile w/Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 248 HP, 252 Defense, 8 Attack
    Moves: Earthquake, Knock Off, Taunt, Toxic

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Krookodile: 288-340 (73.2 - 86.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Outspeeds and then Earthquakes.
     

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    Landorus-Therian @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 8 SpD / 8 Spe
    Impish Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earthquake
    - U-turn
    - Stone Edge

    -1 252 Atk Life Orb Mold Breaker Excadrill Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Landorus-T: 91-109 (23.8 - 28.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
    -1 252 Atk Life Orb Mold Breaker Excadrill Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Landorus-T: 58-69 (15.1 - 18%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery

    0 Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Excadrill: 446-528 (123.5 - 146.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    faf

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    @ Chesto Berry
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252hp/252def/4spa
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    -Rest
    -Calm Mind
    -Scald
    -Ice Beam

    Was going to use standard CroCune but I felt this set works a bit better in case Sleep Talk doesn't go on Scald.

    If Lando gets a free turn to set up Rocks:
    0 Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 97-115 (24 - 28.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock

    If it doesn't:
    0 Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 97-115 (24 - 28.4%) -- 96.9% chance to 4HKO

    Ice Beam's a 2HKO:
    4 SpA Suicune Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-T: 284-336 (74.3 - 87.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Another scenerio is Lando uses the second Earthquake (assuming Suicune switched into the first one), Suicune sets up a Calm Mind, goes for the third and Suicune can either Rest or just finish it off with an Ice Beam:
    +1 4 SpA Suicune Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-T: 428-504 (112 - 131.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

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    -Mega Altaria w/Altariaite
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Pixilate
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Return, Dragon Claw, Earthquake, Dragon Dance

    Tanks all of Cacturne's attacks, wrecks with Pixilated Return.
     

    faf

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    Hydreigon @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Levitate
    Evs: 4hp/252spa/252spe
    Modest nature (+Sp. Atk, -Atk)
    -Draco Meteor
    -Dark Pulse
    -Fire Blast
    -Focus Blast
    4 Atk Bronzong Gyro Ball (117 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Hydreigon: 126-148 (38.6 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Bronzong: 368-434 (108.8 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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    Nah

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    Heatran w/Air Balloon
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Fire Blast, Earth Power, Hidden Power Ice, Flash Cannon

    hello there
     
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