Moveset Help & Other Questions

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Giganomix said:
Can anyone give me a good Charizard build? It will be holding Charizardite X, if that makes a difference. I'd like the moveset to include Fly, but don't hesitate to not include it if there is anything better at all. Thank you very much for all your help, it is greatly appreciated.
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Fly is a terrible option for Charizard X; not only does it lack STAB when Charizard Mega Evolves into Charizard X, but it also takes 2 turns to execute, which means that the opponent can simply switch in a Pokemon that resists Flying to take the hit (i.e. Heatran):
-Dragon Dance
-Flare Blitz/Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/152 Atk/108 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

or
-Dragon Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spe or 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

or
-Flare Blitz/Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Will-o-Wisp
-Roost
Nature: Careful
EVs: 248 HP/228 SDef/32 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
 
PlatinumDude said:
This is the typical Greninja build:
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Extrasensory
-Dark Pulse/Hidden Power (Fire/Grass)/Grass Knot/Spikes
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Protean
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About the last move...it can't be Hidden Power because my Greninja has a Dark-type H.P and since it does it might as well be Dark Pulse, so I'm left with a few options:
Dark Pulse, Grass Knot and Spikes

I like Dark Pulse, but Grass Knot could have some real use and as for Spikes...well I can't decide because I'm not sure which of them would be best.


Now about these:
PlatinumDude said:
-Dragon Dance
-Flare Blitz/Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/152 Atk/108 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

or
-Dragon Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spe or 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

or
-Flare Blitz/Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Will-o-Wisp
-Roost
Nature: Careful
EVs: 248 HP/228 SDef/32 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
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Which of these would be the best? The middle one seems like an offensive one and the last one seems like a tank, while the first one is a combination of both (sorry if I don't know what I'm talking about).
 
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Giganomix said:
Which of these would be the best? The middle one seems like an offensive one and the last one seems like a tank, while the first one is a combination of both (sorry if I don't know what I'm talking about).
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Depends on what you need. The first set is a bulky Dragon Dance, it sacrifices the initial power for the ability to set up much easier. The second one is the full on offensive set--straight power and speed. The last one is the defensive variant.

If you want the strongest attacking set on the fly, go with the second one.
 
Of the three I've eliminated the third one because I'd like a little more offensive ability. I finally got an Adamant HP/Atk/Def/SpDef/Spe Charmander, and I need to decide between these two:

-Dragon Dance
-Flare Blitz/Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/152 Atk/108 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

or
-Dragon Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Earthquake
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spe or 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze

I'm kind of leaning towards the first one, because it's more defensive while still having offensive power. Any advice?
 
Hey guys I have a few questions that I would greatly appreciate to have answered! :)

1) Are there any GBA hack roms that support battle trade in vbalink? Even battling two emulators on the same computer, are there any hacked roms that meet this standard? Or would I just need to use clean ones?

2) This is similar to question #1, but it involves DeSmuME wifi compatible emulator; is it possible to trade/battle between two desmume wifi emulators (same computer) on hacked NDS games like Volt white or Storm silver (or even clean roms for that matter, I'd just like to know). Now I understand Nintendo has recently shut down their wi-fi service, but I set up a connection to a custom server. My problem is that although I am able to connect to wifi service successfully, as soon as one of the two desmume emulators accepts an invitation for a trade/battle, one of the emulators just freezes until connection is lost. So long story short, is it even possible to do what I am seeking to? Even with a clean rom?

My apologies if this is too complex of a question for this part of the forum, I didn't really know where else to post it. ~_~
 
Giganomix said:
Oh, dear. Oh, no. I didn't even realise Dragon Dance was an egg move! :( I'm so stupid.

Are there any moves that can replace it?
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Not really. Mega Zard X really likes to have Dragon Dance. Base 130 offenses and base 100 Speed isn't bad, but more power and speed is needed in the metagame. You could get someone to breed you a Charmander with good IVs, the right nature, and Dragon Dance+other egg moves. Check out the Trade Corner.
 
major glory said:
Hey guys I have a few questions that I would greatly appreciate to have answered! :)

1) Are there any GBA hack roms that support battle trade in vbalink? Even battling two emulators on the same computer, are there any hacked roms that meet this standard? Or would I just need to use clean ones?

2) This is similar to question #1, but it involves DeSmuME wifi compatible emulator; is it possible to trade/battle between two desmume wifi emulators (same computer) on hacked NDS games like Volt white or Storm silver (or even clean roms for that matter, I'd just like to know). Now I understand Nintendo has recently shut down their wi-fi service, but I set up a connection to a custom server. My problem is that although I am able to connect to wifi service successfully, as soon as one of the two desmume emulators accepts an invitation for a trade/battle, one of the emulators just freezes until connection is lost. So long story short, is it even possible to do what I am seeking to? Even with a clean rom?

My apologies if this is too complex of a question for this part of the forum, I didn't really know where else to post it. ~_~
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Technically this isn't the wrong place to ask, but you would probably get a better answer in the Emulation Questions Thread.
 
GreenFlame said:
Oh, dear. Oh, no. I didn't even realise Dragon Dance was an egg move! :( I'm so stupid.

Are there any moves that can replace it?
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Zekrom said:
Not really. Mega Zard X really likes to have Dragon Dance. Base 130 offenses and base 100 Speed isn't bad, but more power and speed is needed in the metagame. You could get someone to breed you a Charmander with good IVs, the right nature, and Dragon Dance+other egg moves. Check out the Trade Corner.
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To add, the only Charizard X set that doesn't use Dragon Dance is the pure defensive one. It doesn't rely on egg moves to be effective.
 
Absol

Hi everybody,

So i dont have a team of battle worthy pokemon put together and i would like to get one so i have a decent chance whenever i spot battle. Up until not i have mostly been doing collecting and shiny trading. Last night i was lucky enough to get a Kalos region shiny Absol, with perfect IV's with a Jolly nature. its level 3 so it hasn't had much done to it and i wanted to know what the best way to raise it would be so i can get a team member worth its scrap. If anyone can give me some pointers on how to raise it, or possible a link to guide to raising it would be, it would be most appreciated.

Thanks
-James
 
James said:
Hi everybody,

So i dont have a team of battle worthy pokemon put together and i would like to get one so i have a decent chance whenever i spot battle. Up until not i have mostly been doing collecting and shiny trading. Last night i was lucky enough to get a Kalos region shiny Absol, with perfect IV's with a Jolly nature. its level 3 so it hasn't had much done to it and i wanted to know what the best way to raise it would be so i can get a team member worth its scrap. If anyone can give me some pointers on how to raise it, or possible a link to guide to raising it would be, it would be most appreciated.

Thanks
-James
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Mega Absol is better off mixed because its Special Attack is usable enough:
-Sucker Punch
-Night Slash
-Fire Blast/Ice Beam
-Play Rough
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Absolite
Ability: Super Luck/Justified

However, you could try Swords Dance too:
-Swords Dance
-Sucker Punch
-Night Slash
-Play Rough
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Absolite
Ability: Super Luck/Justified
 
PlatinumDude said:
Mega Absol is better off mixed because its Special Attack is usable enough:
-Sucker Punch
-Night Slash
-Fire Blast/Ice Beam
-Play Rough
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Absolite
Ability: Super Luck/Justified

However, you could try Swords Dance too:
-Swords Dance
-Sucker Punch
-Night Slash
-Play Rough
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Absolite
Ability: Super Luck/Justified
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Thanks so much for that info!!
 
I am not sure where to ask this but I feel like I'll get e better answer here.

I still have no idea how IVs and EVs work. I mean yes, they determine how strong Pokemon is, IV are gained when Pokemon is born, EVs are gained through battling, vitmains to 100 and PKRS. Yeah, I get all of that, but I dont get the math itself behind all of this.

My question is, how bad would it be to leave a Pokemon at Day care and let them level my Pokemon from, lets say 60 to 100?
(I am talking about Gen 3, and Gen 4 games)






Also, I have three shiny Beldums.

1. How do I see what are their IVs, and

2. I wanna train one of them and make it a good Pokemon. Any advice on this? I only ever trained Pokemon for story purposes only, so I have no idea how to train it to be somewhat competitively good. I dont have Pokerus and stuff like that. I can only get items that are available in the game, plus everything in Pokemon Emerald cloned infinitely times.
If anyone has any suggestions, let me know :)
 
Sven said:
I am not sure where to ask this but I feel like I'll get e better answer here.

I still have no idea how IVs and EVs work. I mean yes, they determine how strong Pokemon is, IV are gained when Pokemon is born, EVs are gained through battling, vitmains to 100 and PKRS. Yeah, I get all of that, but I dont get the math itself behind all of this.

My question is, how bad would it be to leave a Pokemon at Day care and let them level my Pokemon from, lets say 60 to 100?
(I am talking about Gen 3, and Gen 4 games)
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Pokemon only gain EVs when they battle other Pokemon (except in WiFi battles and the Battle Maison), so leveling them in the Day Care will not effect their EVs at all. And as of Gen 5, Pokemon no longer need to level up in order for the EVs to take effect, so level 100 Pokemon can be EV trained now.

The math for EVs basically works like this: 4 EVs=1 more point in that stat at level 100. Or, if you're battling at level 50, 8 EVs=1 more point in that stat. IVs are more directly added to the stats. A Pokemon can have a maximum of 31 IVs in a stat, so at level 100, a poke with 31 IVs in Attack will have 31 more Attack than a poke that has 0 Attack IVs. At level 50, its either 15 or 16 more; I don't remember if it rounds up or down.

Does that help?


Also, I have three shiny Beldums.

1. How do I see what are their IVs, and

2. I wanna train one of them and make it a good Pokemon. Any advice on this? I only ever trained Pokemon for story purposes only, so I have no idea how to train it to be somewhat competitively good. I dont have Pokerus and stuff like that. I can only get items that are available in the game, plus everything in Pokemon Emerald cloned infinitely times.
If anyone has any suggestions, let me know :)
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To get a general idea of their IVs, go take them to the IV Judge down in the Kiloude City Pokemon Center. If you want to know the exact numbers, there's stuff like IV calculators and some method invovling the Battle Institute that I don't remember how it works.

Pokerus isn't necessary for EV training, its just nice to have because it speeds up the process. The best way to EV train is to equip the Pokemon with the right Power item and do horde EV training (where you basically use Sweet Scent to attract a horde, have Pokemon with a spread attack like Earthquake or Surf, and wipe out the horde while the Exp Share is on).

And this is one Metagross set you can consider for your Beldums:

-Metagross w/Assault Vest
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Defense
Moves: Meteor Mash, Earthquake, Zen Headbutt, Bullet Punch
 
Zekrom said:
Pokemon only gain EVs when they battle other Pokemon (except in WiFi battles and the Battle Maison), so leveling them in the Day Care will not effect their EVs at all. And as of Gen 5, Pokemon no longer need to level up in order for the EVs to take effect, so level 100 Pokemon can be EV trained now.

The math for EVs basically works like this: 4 EVs=1 more point in that stat at level 100. Or, if you're battling at level 50, 8 EVs=1 more point in that stat. IVs are more directly added to the stats. A Pokemon can have a maximum of 31 IVs in a stat, so at level 100, a poke with 31 IVs in Attack will have 31 more Attack than a poke that has 0 Attack IVs. At level 50, its either 15 or 16 more; I don't remember if it rounds up or down.

Does that help?



To get a general idea of their IVs, go take them to the IV Judge down in the Kiloude City Pokemon Center. If you want to know the exact numbers, there's stuff like IV calculators and some method invovling the Battle Institute that I don't remember how it works.

Pokerus isn't necessary for EV training, its just nice to have because it speeds up the process. The best way to EV train is to equip the Pokemon with the right Power item and do horde EV training (where you basically use Sweet Scent to attract a horde, have Pokemon with a spread attack like Earthquake or Surf, and wipe out the horde while the Exp Share is on).

And this is one Metagross set you can consider for your Beldums:

-Metagross w/Assault Vest
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Defense
Moves: Meteor Mash, Earthquake, Zen Headbutt, Bullet Punch
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Thanks!
Also my mistake, I haven't noted which game I am playing. Currently it's Pokemon Platinum, so could you adjust the last two answers about Beldum considering that I am in Sinnoh?

Thanks again :)
 
Sven said:
Thanks!
Also my mistake, I haven't noted which game I am playing. Currently it's Pokemon Platinum, so could you adjust the last two answers about Beldum considering that I am in Sinnoh?

Thanks again :)
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Ah, ok. Power items are in Gen 4, but you'll have to EV train rather slowly because no hordes and the old Exp Share. This is a list of the EVs each and every Pokemon gives out, so you know which ones to battle against: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokemon_by_EV_yield
What you're gonna have to do is equip the Beldum with the correct Power item, lead with it, then switch out to a stronger Pokemon and KO the wild one. Vitamins help too, if you have ♥♥♥♥loads of money.

The IV checker in Sinnoh is in the Battle Tower. Not sure how you can get more exact numbers in Gen 4.

If you need some Gen 4 Metagross sets, take a look here: https://www.smogon.com/dex/dp/pokemon/metagross
 
Zekrom said:
Ah, ok. Power items are in Gen 4, but you'll have to EV train rather slowly because no hordes and the old Exp Share. This is a list of the EVs each and every Pokemon gives out, so you know which ones to battle against: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokemon_by_EV_yield
What you're gonna have to do is equip the Beldum with the correct Power item, lead with it, then switch out to a stronger Pokemon and KO the wild one. Vitamins help too, if you have ♥♥♥♥loads of money.

The IV checker in Sinnoh is in the Battle Tower. Not sure how you can get more exact numbers in Gen 4.

If you need some Gen 4 Metagross sets, take a look here: https://www.smogon.com/dex/dp/pokemon/metagross
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So I guess I cant put it into Daycare and let them level to lvl 100? I want to do that but I dont want it to end up too weak.

Also, can every stats get 255 EVs?

Or should I kill only those that give certain EVs, and if yes, which one should I focus on when it's about Beldum?
 
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