Haha, lots of crap for me to respond to. This post will also be my once a year wall o text post.
Also "income inequality" is not the government's problem. There are some people who are less fortunate than others. We're not a communist state.
Don't knock communism till you try it. I'll agree that its not perfect, but neither is the type of government we have. All forms of government have perks and flaws, some more then others. Communism's flaws are its lack of certian freedoms. Ours? I'm not going to bother with a list so i'll just say this. While our form of government was great in theory and in practice, early on, it has slowly come more corrupt due to human greed. While the same thing can happen in Communism, at least then you'd know who to kill/overthrow. With ours we have to idea just who is responsable for the mess we are in. You say the Liberials, I say most Republicans and Democrats. In this case, you are close minded in your ideals. I see the bigger picture, which is our government has **** coming at it from both sides, while you only see one side.
Trickle down theory and supply side economics are retarded and have been shown to be ineffective. Nothing trickled down from the tax cuts and the economic situation only got temporarily better just like what will happen if we deregulate businesses and banks; good for short term, bad for long term (see: Great Depression).
+1. It would be great if everyone could realize this. While I believe that some aspects are not needing of large scale regulation, there are a lot more aspects that need regulations crammed down the throat.
As for trickle down, it's really a idealist view made by people that foolishly believe that everypme people can suppress their darker natures for the betterment of all. While SOME do, the sad fact is that most of the ones who can make a difference don't. I'm going to go out on a limb here, but from my experience most of the people who believe this are those raised to be religious.
The poor need to go to school, work hard, and rise above their situation. They should not expect others to take care of them.
Agree to a extent, but if the poor deserve no special privileges then neither do the rich. While I agree that they don't need to be lead by the hand to a better life we DO need to give them the means to reach a better life. After that, its up to them to use those means to reach a better life.
(And that last sentence reminds me of Rite of Passage for some reason.)
Yes, but that's easier said than done. Even if you work hard and go to school, that's no guarantee. Increasingly so as jobs continue to leave.
+1. While I agree with this, another reason is because some people choose dead-end majors. While jobs exist for dead-end majors, those are usually life long jobs, kept until the person is physically no longer able to do work in that field. I can see the use in some of them, but they are (in this economy) more suited to be a minor to supplement another major field.
They shouldn't. So why do rich white guys in business suits get that privilege? "You wrecked the economy? Shame. Here's a bailout. And have some tax cuts while you're at it. Just continue to supply us with $$$, kay? -Love, Bought System." Do you honestly believe the whole "bootstraps" argument will fly in today's education and job environment? YOU. HAVE. NO. CLUE. WHAT. THIS. MOVEMENT. IS. ABOUT.
You forgot one. "We gave you money to fix our system, but feel free to use it for your golden parachutes despite the fact that you caused this mess."
It's not that expensive. Annual tuition is here is $6,890. Community colleges are less than $1,000 for annual tuition. There are also scholarships out there for assistance. If there's a will, there's a way.
You are forgetting the arm, leg, and first born child cost for everything else. Sure ~7k pays for the year, but everything else is what screws a person over.
Also, where there's a Will... Theres relatives. Sorry, couldn't resist.
1. There are VERY LITTLE jobs out there. Saying "just get a job" is not that simple.
2. Higher education tuition rates are at an all time high. When one is paying off a house, a car, bills, debt, and other necessities, sometimes tuition and grants just aren't enough for some families. ESPECIALLY since, most of the time, going to school means giving up a full time job.
3. Unemployment is at an all time high. Again, people can't find work.
4. Meanwhile, banks are making record profits after causing the financial crisis in America.
5. Banks and Business can continue to do so because they BOUGHT our government through supporting politicians who share their interests. We are sick and tired of this injustice caused by this bought system and how the top one percent of wage owners benefit from it, while the bottom 99 percent are expected to pay for the damage they caused and be content with it.
2-5 are all +1's.
As for 1, some times the found job doesn't pay enough to cover expenses or the hours don't cover the expenses. I know a couple people who got cut hours and quit because of that since the pay for those hours wouldn't have covered the gas used to get to and from the job.
You should be looking for a job. A job hunt is always competitive. You have to market yourself and convince employers why they should hire you and not one of those other 3 people. There is no right to a job. There is also no right to take money from banks because you demonize them for being rich.
Agreed on the jobs part. But still, with how bad the economy is even you should realize that something is wrong with the fact that banks are still posting record profits while just about everything else is posting record losses.
You want trickle down economics? Take some of the banks, most likely, ill gotten profits and use them to boost the economy.
I'm not demonizing them for being rich. I'm demonizing corporations for being overly greedy in a time when there are so many people without. Greed that caused the housing crisis. Greed that shut down many businesses. Greed that made them "too big to fail". Greed that allows them to buy our system, pushes for deregulation, and continues business as usual.
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My thoughts exactly. You just worded them a lot better then I ever could.
If we want to create jobs, we need to lower taxes on the top income earners, cut regulations on job creators, and allow people to spend money to stimulate the economy.
So we need to do what caused this mess in the first place? We need to do this and pray that what caused this mess, will now fix it? Despite what you think, the cure for lung cancer is not smoking more.
This is a complex problem but your answer is not one that would work. You solution is more money spent will cause jobs to come back.
How can a person spend money if they don't have a job to make money from? Unless your saying that everyone should max out their credit cards, I don't really see how your solution would work.
[quoteOriginally Posted by FreakyLocz14
If we want to create jobs, we need to lower taxes on the top income earners, cut regulations on job creators, and allow people to spend money to stimulate the economy.
I really hope you're trolling.
Sadly, she's not.
I don't know much about Dodd-Frank, but if business as usual is still going on in this country despite it, then clearly, Dodd-Frank did not enforce regulation strictly enough or is too full of loopholes to be truly effective. What we need to do is get corporate money and their lobbying interests out of our government.
Freaky : TeH rEGulTiOnS R ruINeN tEh EcoNOmiEz!
Me and You : Then how are corporations still making profit?
Everyone else : +1
Freaky : YoUZ aLL lIbTarDs!
You to me: Lets not feed the troll anymore
Me to you : Aww. But its fun!
You to Me : Grow up.
Me : *sadface*
I agree that tax cuts only for the rich don't work. Taxes need to be cut across the board. I'm in favor of the FairTax plan or a flat income tax rate. We do; however, need to cut regulations on the banking industry and large corporations so that they can create jobs.
Tax cuts for *insert group here* don't work? How about tax cuts don't work at all?
But yes, a flat tax would be better then what we have. But sadly the Dems and Repubs would proably spend years aruging about what that flat rate should be. Democrats would say 10% and Republicans would say 1% and cut all spending by 75%.
While the party system was good at first, its reached the point where its more of a hindrance rather then a help. I'd like the see the party system gone and let people take their own stances instead of them having to conform to a specific group's views.
Anyway, the start of this downfall was when all the middle class factory jobs started going oversea's because the greedy corporations knew that they could make more money due to the cheaper labor and lack of regulation.
As for labor and regulation, you know what labor their is in area\s with no regulation and/or poorly enforced regulation? Sweat shops, child labor, slavery in all but name, and whatever type of labor that someone thinks most profitable.
Another was the automation of certain work. Its more profitable to buy a robot to work and to pay a person to repair it when it breaks down then it is to hire whatever number of workers the robot replaces. In this case, more profitable can either mean its cheaper or product is assembled quicker and able to be sold quicker.
