Prism League Discussion (Previously "Our own Pokemon X/Y League")

[Fokko]

sorry been busy at work i pick electric type because i just got done breeding my electric types lol

 

[Nah]

sorry been busy at work i pick electric type because i just got done breeding my electric types lol

Uh, we kinda went ahead and finished the type draft. Not to mention that Electric was not on the list you sent me, and it was already taken by the time it was your turn in the draft. Your 2 types are Grass and Fire.

Also, you doing Single battles or Double battles?

 

[Fokko]

Uh, we kinda went ahead and finished the type draft. Not to mention that Electric was not on the list you sent me, and it was already taken by the time it was your turn in the draft. Your 2 types are Grass and Fire.

Also, you doing Single battles or Double battles?

im gonna be doing both singles and double battles lol. I am also going to mixed it up too with Fire, Grass, Electric, Fairy, and Steel since I have all these teams ready

 

[Nah]

im gonna be doing both singles and double battles lol. I am also going to mixed it up too with Fire, Grass, Electric, Fairy, and Steel since I have all these teams ready

You...can't really do that. We decided that each member was gonna stick with just 2 types, remember?

 

[Oblivion Wing]

You...can't really do that. We decided that each member was gonna stick with just 2 types, remember?

I have a question and i think it was cleared out prior, just want to make sure. Its just both types we gotta stick to per poke? Or could a pokemon have a different type as long as it still has one of the two we picked? For example

Leader type has fire as one of the types, cant have delphox due to its psychic?

If we cant then i gotta redo most of my team lol

 

[Nah]

I have a question and i think it was cleared out prior, just want to make sure. Its just both types we gotta stick to per poke? Or could a pokemon have a different type as long as it still has one of the two we picked? For example

Leader type has fire as one of the types, cant have delphox due to its psychic?

If we cant then i gotta redo most of my team lol

All that matters is that all the Pokemon on your team are at least part of whatever your 2 types are. So for example, let's say that your types are Fire/Water. A team of:

Talonflame, Magcargo, Mega Charizard X, Empoleon, Lapras, and Quagsire

is completely fine, since all those Pokemon are either part Fire or part Water. What would not be ok would be a team like:

Infernape, Volcarona, Diggersby tho, Mantine, Gastrodon, and Togekiss

because Diggersby tho and Togekiss are not part Fire or Water.

Does that help? If you're still uncertain, you could tell me your team so I can see.

 

[Oblivion Wing]

All that matters is that all the Pokemon on your team are at least part of whatever your 2 types are. So for example, let's say that your types are Fire/Water. A team of:

Talonflame, Magcargo, Mega Charizard X, Empoleon, Lapras, and Quagsire

is completely fine, since all those Pokemon are either part Fire or part Water. What would not be ok would be a team like:

Infernape, Volcarona, Diggersby tho, Mantine, Gastrodon, and Togekiss

because Diggersby tho and Togekiss are not part Fire or Water.

Does that help? If you're still uncertain, you could tell me your team so I can see.

Thanks for clearing that out!

I think we should all reveal our teams when we have the new thread/subforum/selfdestructs you know?

 

[Polar Spectrum]

I'm gonna bump up the OP:

I really wanted Dragon as one of my types>_>, but Fire/Rock is strangely fitting since I'm about to get a B.S. in Geoscience. Kinda sucks that both types are weak to Water and Ground, 2 common offensive types, but I'll come up with something. totally should use Magcargo

I really wanted ground ;-; But; fighting / flying works... I think we're all gonna have to get a little creative with this. Could be good though; getting used to some types and combinations we're not so used to. Ooo hey congrats on the degree too :D That's pretty cooooool. Them water/ground weaknesses are pretty harsh- but on the bright side, look at all those resists. Fire, grass, Ice, bug, steel, fairy, rock, poison, and electric between the two of them. :0 Fire would be such a great defensive type if its weaknesses weren't so harsh. :I

Yo I dare you, I double dog dare you - to seriously use a magcargo.

I had one in Black/White named "DontKillMe"

... they always killed it.

Also, a few things we still need to discuss are:

-the issue of Singles/Doubles in regards to challengers
-the league name (which hopefully should be solved soon since the poll has been changed; remember to vote, everyone!)
-The rule about disconnects. Polar said something about it before, but I don't really remember what exactly is was that we decided on when it comes to DCs, and I'm pretty sure that the current rule in the OP needs to be ironed out.

Just in case any of you didn't hear, Cakesu is going to make the badges for us. Perhaps Polar can tell her to start working on them when he gets on.

Also, if everyone could tell me if they're doing Single Battles or Double Battles, that'd be great too.

- I mentioned before, I don't know how on-board everyone is with this idea, I think the challenger-leader balance would stay the most even if we have them keep the same pokemon, but are allowed to change moves, builds, and items for double battles.

- Really rootin' for Prism league - on account of prisms being any shape or gemstone, and potentially emitting all colors of the visible light spectrum. It kinda shouts "Diversity" lol And we all have 2 types a piece, so yeah. Prism.

- MMM. Now that I'm home. So Showdown records the battle even if someone DC's. On X/Y, sadly you can't. BUT - what you can do, is look on the PSS function screen to see the faces of your opponent and all your other contacts, immediately after battle. If you see other people online, and you yourself are, but your opponents face is blacked out - THEY disconnected, or lost internet. If you see everyone's face blacked out, and you're offline -then YOUR internet dropped. This can also be used to weed out illegitimate DC's, as someone who does it on purpose will not be able to hide the fact that they did so if the other player checks PSS after the battle. All we need is a picture of the PSS screen from players after a DC'd match, and it's obvious who dropped out.

-I'll PM Cakesu now that we have types. ^^ Er, well we're missing Falkbalk.... buuuut yeah she can start with this much at least. Anyone here who appreciates her work btw - should totally PM her and thank her.

Oh and I'm doing single battles.

lolno I'll be rocking it doubles style.

Note: Symbols should only be good for each E4 challenge. If a challenger loses to any of the E4, they reset to zero and must try again.

xD Goddangit, you're always coming up with these... Should we do that though you think? The elites are gonna be much harder than the leaders :x I know we have a checkpoint between leaders and elites, but restarting everytime you try to run through the elites to get to the champion, man that's rough. Maybe we could do it that way if there's no champion, but not if there is one? Or something?

I was just thinking of pictures in case the challenger lies. The Leader takes a picture, but it's not needed unless the challenger challenges the official result announced by the Leader. Of course, we assume all Leaders will be honest.

Going off what I said for the PSS bit, we can use a battle photo, but that implies every leader should snap shots of battle screens whenever they have a challenger. The PSS thing though, if you know about it - is really handy for seeing who disconnects.

Thanks for clearing that out!

I think we should all reveal our teams when we have the new thread/subforum/selfdestructs you know?

Iiii - plan to reveal a whole roster of pokemon that will be potential selects for my gym er, whatever elites get - all fitting the fighting / flying thing. I don't plan on keeping it as the same 6 constantly though.

 

[Cyclone]

Iiii - plan to reveal a whole roster of pokemon that will be potential selects for my gym er, whatever elites get - all fitting the fighting / flying thing. I don't plan on keeping it as the same 6 constantly though.

Prison cell?

No, that's not right......

 

[Nah]

I really wanted ground ;-; But; fighting / flying works... I think we're all gonna have to get a little creative with this. Could be good though; getting used to some types and combinations we're not so used to. Ooo hey congrats on the degree too :D That's pretty cooooool. Them water/ground weaknesses are pretty harsh- but on the bright side, look at all those resists. Fire, grass, Ice, bug, steel, fairy, rock, poison, and electric between the two of them. :0 Fire would be such a great defensive type if its weaknesses weren't so harsh. :I

I agree that it'll make things interesting. I actually just made my team and tested it out on Euphoric, and it's not as bad as I thought it'd be.

Cradily is boss, btw.

Yo I dare you, I double dog dare you - to seriously use a magcargo.

I had one in Black/White named "DontKillMe"

... they always killed it.

XD

But not today. Maybe some other day I'll throw a Magcargo onto the team.

- I mentioned before, I don't know how on-board everyone is with this idea, I think the challenger-leader balance would stay the most even if we have them keep the same pokemon, but are allowed to change moves, builds, and items for double battles.

I dunno if I'm into this idea that much because while movesets and items and such can be modified to suit a battle format better, some pokes just aren't really suited to certain battle styles no matter what you do. A good example is Rampardos. Not really that good in Singles because of its poor Speed and bulk, but the thing is a ♥♥♥♥ing beast in Rotations.

But I'm not really sure.

- Really rootin' for Prism league - on account of prisms being any shape or gemstone, and potentially emitting all colors of the visible light spectrum. It kinda shouts "Diversity" lol And we all have 2 types a piece, so yeah. Prism.

According to the poll, Prism League is in the lead, so you might get your wish.
and then I will make Void Ray references

- MMM. Now that I'm home. So Showdown records the battle even if someone DC's. On X/Y, sadly you can't. BUT - what you can do, is look on the PSS function screen to see the faces of your opponent and all your other contacts, immediately after battle. If you see other people online, and you yourself are, but your opponents face is blacked out - THEY disconnected, or lost internet. If you see everyone's face blacked out, and you're offline -then YOUR internet dropped. This can also be used to weed out illegitimate DC's, as someone who does it on purpose will not be able to hide the fact that they did so if the other player checks PSS after the battle. All we need is a picture of the PSS screen from players after a DC'd match, and it's obvious who dropped out.

This seems like a good idea, provided that everyone on the X/Y side is capable of taking and posting pictures on here.

xD Goddangit, you're always coming up with these... Should we do that though you think? The elites are gonna be much harder than the leaders :x I know we have a checkpoint between leaders and elites, but restarting everytime you try to run through the elites to get to the champion, man that's rough. Maybe we could do it that way if there's no champion, but not if there is one? Or something?

I can't say I'm into the idea either, but this is another thing I'm not sure about. Though when we do have a Champion, I think it'd be good to place another checkpoint between the Elites and Champ.

Iiii - plan to reveal a whole roster of pokemon that will be potential selects for my gym er, whatever elites get - all fitting the fighting / flying thing. I don't plan on keeping it as the same 6 constantly though.

I might post my team in here sometime too. Not that anyone is obligated to do so.

 

[Polar Spectrum]

I agree that it'll make things interesting. I actually just made my team and tested it out on Euphoric, and it's not as bad as I thought it'd be.

Cradily is boss, btw.

Isn't it? Grass and rock are pretty shady on their own defensively, but together, they cover a lot for each other.


XD

But not today. Maybe some other day I'll throw a Magcargo onto the team.

Heh yeah don't uh - don't try too hard... Magcargo is in a pretty abysmal place outside trick room, and even then... eeeuurrghhh... Color me amazed if you use it effectively though. I'll like, do a flip for you or something


I dunno if I'm into this idea that much because while movesets and items and such can be modified to suit a battle format better, some pokes just aren't really suited to certain battle styles no matter what you do. A good example is Rampardos. Not really that good in Singles because of its poor Speed and bulk, but the thing is a ♥♥♥♥ing beast in Rotations.

But I'm not really sure.

I know what you're saying, completely agree that individual pokemon are more suited or less to certain battle types - but in the longer post where I droned on about this idea before, I brought up the fact that the leaders and elites are locked into an equally if not more strict parameter for format specific teams. Having only two types to make a team from - in regards to format viable pokemon, is equally if not more limiting than being able to pick 6 pokemon, that with complete freedom of changing movesets, items, EV Investment and builds, of any type to play both formats. What I mean is, a challenger can pick six great pokemon for one battle format or another - or both, of varying types for coverage. A leader, is still confined to 2 types (albeit with dual types giving nice coverage) for whichever format they choose, which bars any cohesive strategy for ANY battle format, outside those 2 types. Especially for mono-type pokemon who shine in either format in particular, who are restricted to all but any 1 - 2 gym / leader which possesses their type.


According to the poll, Prism League is in the lead, so you might get your wish.
and then I will make Void Ray references

Yaaaaay. What is this Void Ray. Must google..

This seems like a good idea, provided that everyone on the X/Y side is capable of taking and posting pictures on here.

I'd suggest just keeping a cell phone handy when doing a match and unsure of connection fidelity.

I can't say I'm into the idea either, but this is another thing I'm not sure about. Though when we do have a Champion, I think it'd be good to place another checkpoint between the Elites and Champ.

I have no strong feelings on this one lol. I didn't even know which way we were handling a loss in the Elite 4 before this conversation today. Sooo totally someone else's initiative on that one. :U

I might post my team in here sometime too. Not that anyone is obligated to do so.

I was kinda lazy, so instead of slicing that quote I just put my thoughts in bold green inside it.

 

[Nah]

I know what you're saying, completely agree that individual pokemon are more suited or less to certain battle types - but in the longer post where I droned on about this idea before, I brought up the fact that the leaders and elites are locked into an equally if not more strict parameter for format specific teams. Having only two types to make a team from - in regards to format viable pokemon, is equally if not more limiting than being able to pick 6 pokemon, that with complete freedom of changing movesets, items, EV Investment and builds, of any type to play both formats. What I mean is, a challenger can pick six great pokemon for one battle format or another - or both, of varying types for coverage. A leader, is still confined to 2 types (albeit with dual types giving nice coverage) for whichever format they choose, which bars any cohesive strategy for ANY battle format, outside those 2 types. Especially for mono-type pokemon who shine in either format in particular, who are restricted to all but any 1 - 2 gym / leader which possesses their type.

Ah, I see. Well, this idea is fine by me then. Let's just wait and see what some of the others think.

And if anyone wants to weigh in on the thing about having to/not having to restart the E4 if you lose, that'd be great....

 

[Oblivion Wing]

I agree that it'll make things interesting. I actually just made my team and tested it out on Euphoric, and it's not as bad as I thought it'd be.

Cradily is boss, btw.


XD

But not today. Maybe some other day I'll throw a Magcargo onto the team.




I dunno if I'm into this idea that much because while movesets and items and such can be modified to suit a battle format better, some pokes just aren't really suited to certain battle styles no matter what you do. A good example is Rampardos. Not really that good in Singles because of its poor Speed and bulk, but the thing is a ♥♥♥♥ing beast in Rotations.

But I'm not really sure.


According to the poll, Prism League is in the lead, so you might get your wish.
and then I will make Void Ray references


This seems like a good idea, provided that everyone on the X/Y side is capable of taking and posting pictures on here.




I can't say I'm into the idea either, but this is another thing I'm not sure about. Though when we do have a Champion, I think it'd be good to place another checkpoint between the Elites and Champ.



I might post my team in here sometime too. Not that anyone is obligated to do so.

As far as the checkpoints: i say lets stick with no checkpoints after defeating the gyms. Its kind of, test your might kinda thing. As challenging as it is its no 2 out of 3. Trust me if anyone has a better idea please convince :/

And... why do we have 3 GHOST TYPE GYMS IN XY?

 

[Cyclone]

As far as the checkpoints: i say lets stick with no checkpoints after defeating the gyms. Its kind of, test your might kinda thing. As challenging as it is its no 2 out of 3. Trust me if anyone has a better idea please convince :/

And... why do we have 3 GHOST TYPE GYMS IN XY?

...whelp...

1st: Exile - Steel/Flying
2nd: Euphoric - Dragon/Bug
3rd: Polar Spectrum - Flying/Fighting
4th: Zekrom - Fire/Rock
5th: Charizard Man - Ground/Dragon
6th: TGM - Water/Ground
7th: Fokko - Grass/Fire
8th: Cyclone - Dark/Fairy
9th: enigma - Fairy/Steel
10th: BlueBoi - Ice/Ghost
11th: AdamEternal - Electric/Psychic
12th: Falkbalk - Rock (second skipped)
13th: Ultraviolence - Bug/Water
14th: Ferraligator - Ghost/Dark
15th: Ozymandias - Psychic/Electric

One, two. I count two.

 

[Oblivion Wing]

...whelp...


One, two. I count two.

There was a post earlier and counted 3. Guess it got fixed lol

 

[TGM]

I'm kinda more concerned with that fact that the 15th gym and 11th gym are the same typing.

should that...like, not be a thing?

 

[Oblivion Wing]

I'm kinda more concerned with that fact that the 15th gym and 11th gym are the same typing.

should that...like, not be a thing?

I used foresight on that one. Hence i why i thought later on if the divisions were divided, why not divide all types beteween the two so that didnt happen. Buuut... it happened xD

 

[Nah]

I'm kinda more concerned with that fact that the 15th gym and 11th gym are the same typing.

should that...like, not be a thing?

It was kinda inevitable that that would happen, what with there being 18 types but 15 people picking 2 types each. It's good that that's the only instance where we have 2 gyms with the same type combo, and that Adam and Ozy are in different divisions.

 

[Cyclone]

I objected to it too, saying they should differ. But different divisions was all right. So.

 

[Cyclone]

I'm glad people like the Prism League. Wasn't expecting it..

As for my battle format, probably singles.

Well, it beats the "Octagon League".

EDIT: With 12 votes in, 67% favour Prism League so far. I haven't even voted yet, but of the three, I'd pick that myself; I was waiting to see which two were ahead in a close race, but now my opinion appears to be irrelevant to this poll and I withhold my vote for now. I instead argue, with such a majority already, should we just make "The Prism League" official?

Preferably without rainbows in the topic post?