Recreational Drugs

[OuterTsuchinoko]

Okay so trying to have a real conversation about these types of drugs. If you guys don't mind my asking, what kinds of drugs have you done? Just weed? Maybe had a rough time staying up at overnights and turned to coke to keep you awake. Wanted something to mellow you out or give you a nice experience? I'd like to know what types of experiences people have had.

For me I smoke a lot of marijuana myself. It keeps me pretty calm, helps me sleep and get through work and is just fun with friends. I've also done cocaine to stay up for my night shifts back when I worked such crazy schedules. I got really into it though after I realized it was just plain old making me feel happier through endorphins, thank goodness I got off of it before it became a problem because it kind of was turning into one. The craziest drug I have done is LSD, and that was in the past few months. It's a pretty crazy experience and makes every person see things differently. It's a very eye opening experience but definitely not something that I would want to do constantly like any of the others. And it can turn into a bad situation too if things around you aren't going to your liking.

So yeah what have you guys done in your life?

 

[User19sq]

Once you do LSD, it stays in your body forever. A reserve of a small amount of it stays in you spine for life, and because of it, an acid trip can be triggered by purely random chance, and you have no control over it. The most amount of control you have is how much of it is left behind, as the less you do, the less of a chance this has to happen.

My only real abuse in life is alcohol, and even then I have a good reason for it (easier to get than pain pills), and I have no addiction to it because I know how to ward off a hangover, thanks to a high-school teacher telling us what the cure was. But more importantly, to link with the above, I know what booze is about, as I've done the research beforehand.

Don't do things so blindly. If you need to stay awake, drink a Pepsi, and don't to cocaine. If you're going to get into pot, do it around the age of 25. Do the research first.

 

[Corrin]

Mm, I used to do crack, but I quit with the help of my psychiatrist, this april it'll be 2 years clean!

My experience was the lowest part of my life, I don't want to go there again. I'm a more responsible person now anyway.

In terms of alcohol and stuff, I don't drink.

 

[Radiating]

I haven't done drugs and I don't plan to.

TBH I highly recommend you don't do any drugs. (Marijuana I really am not sure about). Don't get into other drugs that can really damage your body and cause permanent problems.

 

[OuterTsuchinoko]

Once you do LSD, it stays in your body forever. A reserve of a small amount of it stays in you spine for life, and because of it, an acid trip can be triggered by purely random chance, and you have no control over it. The most amount of control you have is how much of it is left behind, as the less you do, the less of a chance this has to happen.

My only real abuse in life is alcohol, and even then I have a good reason for it (easier to get than pain pills), and I have no addiction to it because I know how to ward off a hangover, thanks to a high-school teacher telling us what the cure was. But more importantly, to link with the above, I know what booze is about, as I've done the research beforehand.

Don't do things so blindly. If you need to stay awake, drink a Pepsi, and don't to cocaine. If you're going to get into pot, do it around the age of 25. Do the research first.

I totally get what you mean and I would agree with you if other factors weren't involved. I didn't just do these things just because I felt like risking it. There are a lot of other things going on in my life during those times that I didn't bother delving into that make these decisions make more sense. Let's not try to get preachy, it's just a conversation. Anyway, your points are still valid and anyone thinking about doing a drug I would say just pass on it.

 

[User19sq]

I totally get what you mean and I would agree with you if other factors weren't involved. I didn't just do these things just because I felt like risking it. There are a lot of other things going on in my life during those times that I didn't bother delving into that make these decisions make more sense. Let's not try to get preachy, it's just a conversation. Anyway, your points are still valid and anyone thinking about doing a drug I would say just pass on it.

There's always factors. For every moment you revel in, someone else suffers simultaneously. Hell, I'm a disabled bastard with no support whatsoever with four cents to his name (so says my checking account), and even I can resist most of these things. (To be fair, I can't afford Smirnoff.) People can turn to these substances, but there are those who are strong enough to simply refuse them, and they can suffer worse than you.

This is why I don't understand how people blame situations. Sometimes... it's the abuser. And there are programs used to rectify the problem, and that usually requires you to admit it. My apologies if this seems inflamatory, but my point is:

Everyne's different. Some of us need help, however, and it's unwise to blame more than you have to.

 

[gimmepie]

Between my mental and physical health issues I couldn't do drugs even if I wanted to.

 

[pastelspectre]

the most i've really..taken is alcohol? i drink alcohol on rare occasion whenever my mom buys it or my nana offers me some. the last time i had some was about maybe a month ago? i had a couple of wine coolers and got buzzed but it's not an addiction or anything. i've also smoked cigarettes, if that counts as a drug. i used to do it somewhat often with my best friend but since i moved away from her, i don't really see the point in doing it by myself so i just don't really do it ever.

i do want try weed at least once in my life though, just for the hell of it. *shrug* i'm not a druggie or anything though, and to be honest with all my mental issues i have i'm surprised i'm not. oh well.

 

[OuterTsuchinoko]

There's always factors. For every moment you revel in, someone else suffers simultaneously. Hell, I'm a disabled bastard with no support whatsoever with four cents to his name (so says my checking account), and even I can resist most of these things. (To be fair, I can't afford Smirnoff.) People can turn to these substances, but there are those who are strong enough to simply refuse them, and they can suffer worse than you.

This is why I don't understand how people blame situations. Sometimes... it's the abuser. And there are programs used to rectify the problem, and that usually requires you to admit it. My apologies if this seems inflamatory, but my point is:

Everyne's different. Some of us need help, however, and it's unwise to blame more than you have to.

I totally understand this, but things aren't so black and white. It's easy for someone to say "hey I never did drugs so I'm better than you" or "yeah I've done 'em during tough times" little do people know that maybe that first person just had a different upbringing and never had the chance to try them as opposed to someone living in the hood and being exposed to these things while going through struggles and turns to something that can take the edge off. You can factor in situations because they are a thing that turn people to make decisions they may not have without the situations in place. These decisions I don't think make someone stronger than the next. And yeah some people might be going through something worse than the next person who has done drugs and they didn't. That doesn't mean they are stronger or anything. It just means they found a different way to cope with issues.

For the part of abusers creating situations for themselves, that I believe. It seems you are talking about two different things. People taking drugs because of situations and the other being them creating and blaming situations for their drug use when they themselves created it for themselves. I hate when people compare their big deals to someone else as being worse. That's not something people should do because something small to someone could be a big deal to another.

 

[User19sq]

I totally understand this, but things aren't so black and white. It's easy for someone to say "hey I never did drugs so I'm better than you" or "yeah I've done 'em during tough times" little do people know that maybe that first person just had a different upbringing and never had the chance to try them as opposed to someone living in the hood and being exposed to these things while going through struggles and turns to something that can take the edge off. You can factor in situations because they are a thing that turn people to make decisions they may not have without the situations in place. These decisions I don't think make someone stronger than the next. And yeah some people might be going through something worse than the next person who has done drugs and they didn't. That doesn't mean they are stronger or anything. It just means they found a different way to cope with issues.

For the part of abusers creating situations for themselves, that I believe. It seems you are talking about two different things. People taking drugs because of situations and the other being them creating and blaming situations for their drug use when they themselves created it for themselves. I hate when people compare their big deals to someone else as being worse. That's not something people should do because something small to someone could be a big deal to another.

I feel both points are valid in this thread, as they both do indeed contribute to an experience with substance abuse. I never explicitly stated that people are stronger than one another for their resistances; I merely stated that some do in fact need help dealing with them. As for the other point, you did bring up the idea of external forces playing a part in these choices, to which I countered that not everyone with the same variables will automatically turn to drugs as a response.

 

[OuterTsuchinoko]

I feel both points are valid in this thread, as they both do indeed contribute to an experience with substance abuse. I never explicitly stated that people are stronger than one another for their resistances; I merely stated that some do in fact need help dealing with them. As for the other point, you did bring up the idea of external forces playing a part in these choices, to which I countered that not everyone with the same variables will automatically turn to drugs as a response.

And no not everyone in the same circumstances would turn to the same result of drug use. That reminded me of Trading Places, good movie if you haven't seen it. But yeah they won't all turn to the same thing. Viewpoints on the subject and how they were brought up would change all of that. Plus a thousand other factors as well. If it sounded like that's what I was getting at then it wasn't. There may have been some confusion.

 

[Somewhere_]

Personally, i haven't tried any drugs. I dont plan on it either because I have no reason to. Ive found drugs to be more of a nuisance because dumbasses at my school sell/trade/do drugs and then they get caught and we all have to listen to speeches about how bad drugs are.

 

[pkmin3033]

I have enough physical and mental health issues, I am in no particular hurry to add substance addiction/abuse to that already too long list. If it's something that helps you unwind, or just something you like to do, I suppose that's fair play - it's your body and you can do whatever you like. Personally I don't want to risk negative side effects...or going to prison.

I don't think I could do drugs even if I wanted to anyway - I have absolutely no idea how to get hold of them. It's not as easy as some people seem to think it is...I doubt it's because this area is squeaky clean (I've heard people discussing drugs in broad daylight at the bus stop of all places before) but I just don't know who to talk to. Not in any particular hurry to find out.

 

[Alex]

I smoke weed, and I have smoked it for a long time. I decided to take it because I was genuinely curious what it was all about. It's quite nice for some relaxing. It sort of sets your mind into a different gear and i like that about it. It can make me quite lethargic though, and very hungry lol...

I've also taken mushrooms. That was entirely different and I do recommend some experience with other drugs before taking them, even alcohol. Anything that puts you into a different state of mind where you're still aware of yourself. Because mushrooms will take over your mind. You're at its mercy for 4 hours or so. I've only done it once and personally I think I've gotten everything I'd want out of it. Instead of taking it again, I'd rather try LSD. And I think that's the extent of where I'd like to go with drugs.

 

[Desert Stream~]

If you need to stay awake, drink a Pepsi, and don't to cocaine.

Or put saliva in your eyelids. Easy on-the-go way to stay awake.

As for me, the only drugs I've had are Caffeine (Iced tea), and a very very small amount of alcohol (rotten food). I don't view tea as that bad, as it only has a little caffeine, and any other drugs I would never do on purpose.

 

[Bellsprout]

I just smoke weed. I've tried salvia and didn't like it. I've tried a few pills but I feel gross thinking that I did that. I have an interest in mushrooms so maybe one day

 

[Lucario]

never, why would I deliberately poison myself and cause myself slow death by addiction to brain-killing substances? I've never touched alcohol, I avoid even being near someone smoking anything for fear of second-hand smoking, and I try to avoid caffeine as much as possible (no tea, coffee, or cola/mtn dew). I already have enough issues without poisoning myself.

 

[Nah]

never, why would I deliberately poison myself and cause myself slow death by addiction to brain-killing substances? I've never touched alcohol, I avoid even being near someone smoking anything for fear of second-hand smoking, and I try to avoid caffeine as much as possible (no tea, coffee, or cola/mtn dew). I already have enough issues without poisoning myself.

It's funny to think that we knowingly/deliberately "poison" ourselves when it's like why would one consume say, arsenic or rat poison or some such?

I've never so much as touched one of the recreational drugs (though I would be interested in trying weed with one of the Alexs or someone), but I drink alcohol regularly and I'm pretty sure people do drugs for the same reason I/people drink: it feels good. Done right, drugs and alcohol aren't really poisoning yourself or life-controlling. Though plenty of people don't use them....responsibly unfortunately.

Though there's kind of a certain point where it's just bad: I have a hard time imagining any good coming from any amount of heroin or crystal meth use for example.

 

[blue]

I've smoked weed and taken cocaine on nights out, but that's as far as it goes. Never taken LSD or Mushrooms and I don't intend to.

 

[Mobile Tsk]

Once you do LSD, it stays in your body forever. A reserve of a small amount of it stays in you spine for life, and because of it, an acid trip can be triggered by purely random chance, and you have no control over it. The most amount of control you have is how much of it is left behind, as the less you do, the less of a chance this has to happen.

This myth is incredibly unusual to me with how pervasive it is and how many people believe it. I don't wanna link to any drug use sites on here, but this one is fairly easily debunked. LSD is water soluble and leaves your body faster than any CNS depressant, stimulant or narcotic. It is one of the most non-toxic psychoactive substances, and while it is certainly not risk-free, it leaves your body incredibly quickly. I've used it sporadically over the course of several years and I stretch my spine out daily when I exercise then again at night when I go for a walk. Never in my life have I had any concern that I would trigger another LSD trip. It's not possible.