School bullying

[King Elizabello]

Hello everyone i recently opened the cursed box (tv for short lol) and i saw school bullying. I don't know if there was a thread years ago so i thought we can drop some opinions about it. Generally, it started as a small talk and the people who were bullied couldn't trust someone to help them but nowadays it happens almost to every country so i guess it can be called an international problem. What do you think are the causes of it and what measures can be taken (be rational not like teach to people teleportation, kamehameha and destroy lol i understand how someone who gets bullied felt). Personally, when i was bullied i was very young around 10 years old but i ignored them although, i had a lot of anger and wanted to fight but in the end nothing is gained from fighting right? Instead it creates more and more trouble. I would like to hear your thoughts friends of PC so let's..........................

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I mean what are your thoughts toward it? Have you ever got bullied? What did you do in that situation?

 

[Pokemon Game Fan]

I don't condone violence, however... I was only bullied my 7th grade year cause I dressed like a wimp. I got into a fight with the person who bullied me, beat him up, and he never bothered me again.
Aside from that, I can't say I got bullied much.

 

[Jauntier]

I was bullied often and very badly during my middle school years by this knuckle-dragging neanderthal of a kid and his like-minded cohorts. Ignoring them, whining at them to stop, and telling teacher did about as well as you'd expect. I harbored a lot of resentment then. We all matriculated to the same high school. When I was a freshman there, the leader one day tripped me in the school cafeteria and his goons laughed at me. I had had enough of it, so I shouted at him like I thought I had any influence. He begged me to fight him so that I would have my ass publicly beat and my sorry self put back in my place.

He stood up and bucked at me as if he was going to do something, but when he did, I reflexively reacted. Gave him one good nick to the jaw, shot his head back hard and fast enough that he blacked out. The cafeteria sounded like a riot. Lunch-duty administrators apprehended me.

After I served my suspension, I wasn't bullied any more. Sometimes you just have to stand up for yourself. Fighting doesn't solve everything, but back when I was in school, no one gave two shits about peer mediation and guidance counselors. You either took it or you dished it out.

 

[Tiliath]

It's never been a favored topic for me, as I was bullied from 5th grade until the end of highschool, and also has followed me to my online group of friends to the point that I do not talk to them anymore. Don't really talk much except to family and my four closest friends.

When I was younger, I should say that I was pushed around more than I got into actual fights. I took up martial arts, only used it in self-defense when necessary, and learned more from a disciplinary aspect. The bullying never really stopped, but it was around 9th grade that the pushing around stopped because I ended up laying a throat punch into one of the defensive linemans for my highschool football team in front of a full cafeteria. That was that.

Nowadays, at the ripe old age of 25, I've learned more about myself through discipline and self reflection. Bullying sucks, but it can't be prevented. It's one of those things that if you are a chosen target, you have to stand up for yourself immediately and nip it in the bud.

I'm very much a pacifist now and keep myself aware of my surroundings at all times to avoid confrontation. The real hope is to never have to fight in the first place.

'The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.' - Sun Tzu

 

[gimmepie]

I think one of the sad realities of life is that bullying, in some form, is going to happen. It might not happen to you, it might not happen to someone you are close to even, but somewhere, some time it is happening.

Bullying is a terrible thing and those who partake in such things should be punished. It should always be discouraged. It's unrealistic to assume that there's ever going to be an end to it though. What we should do though, is make a concentrated effort to minimise the problem as much as we can and support those who suffer due to it.

As for my own experiences, I don't think I was ever seriously bullied, specific people certainly didn't make me a specific target. I got into far too many fights during middle school when I argued with friends (autism and testosterone are not a good combination) and I do attribute some of the lack of bullying to the fact that nobody wanted to push me that far. I don't recommend that approach to anyone though, I still regret my violent actions to this very day. I think the best defence against bullying is just to look like you don't care, portray yourself as confident in yourself and bullies won't see a weakness to pray on.

 

[Elysieum]

Hierarchy forms incredibly quickly among children. I was surprised to hear how prevalent it is around the world and thought initially that it was just my own backwards primary school in which bullying took place.

I think at the root of it lies the fact that children can be shockingly cruel. Before gaining maturity, emotional depth and empathy, we humans really are a clumsily harmful bunch.

I don't recall being physically bullied all that much, but I do remember acute anxiety and a feeling of tribal prejudice. I believe that is the oxygen for bullying.

 

[killer-curry]

I totally flushed my dark memories during primary school until my friends told me how I was bullied in such humaneless way. It was pity to hear that but hey I totally forgot but my friend did remember that. ( claps for my good buddies )

I totally intolerate about school bullying and it is getting more viral as students post bullying videos to social media and fuelled up the public. Victims of these bullies were so mentally and physically damaged and did not want to speak out as they scared of being bullied again.

There have been serious cases happened such as suicide. So this issue should be given more attention. But I believe more teachers nowadays are giving more care about this issue and they try to help out these victims and school headmaster also discussing with teachers to curb these issue.
Furthermore, counselling and befrienders hot line are more available so victims can tell what exactly happen to them.

 

[Pebbles]

bullies shall not come near me or else this WILL happen...

seriously i got zero respect for people who bullly others, doesn't matter to me wether you did it in the past or doing it now, doesn't matter if you just bullied one or more.... you are PATHETIC if you bully others, under any circumstance, no matter what your own life is like.

i loathe people who come at me and say; oh feel sorry for the kid, she/he is insecure, she/he is bullying others because she/he has a bad life, it is very tough on them and they don't know any better, they are letting it out on others, the anger and frustrations, have mercy, they don't know they are doing anything wrong..........

and often the parents of the bully are the ones who come up with that sh!t just because they don't want to admit they might been doing something wrong when it comes to parenting and stuff... disgusting if you ask me

fak that, seriously
millions of others also have a bad life, maybe even worse and do they bully others? NO
because apparently they got a heart, brain and conscience that actually works
(talking about kids from the age of 6/7 or above, i guess i can give a pass to very little kiddos who are just starting their lives lol - they need to learn how to treat people, what right and what is wrong)

if you got frustrations inside, if you are insecure about your body or whatever, tough for you but don't freaking make others feel bad just so you don't look like a vulnerable idiot
i don't care if you have a tough life.... doesn't give you the right to be a bully and hurt other people their feelings ... or even hurt them physically

i don't care if you think that girl her clothes look weird and are not fasionable enough for you, GROW UP, the clothes aren't burning your eyes now, are they?
etc

people need to learn how to let others just be.... let others be - deal with your own life and leave innocent people out of it
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[Thepokefansophia]

I never been seriously bullied but there has been incidents where girls who I thought were friends were slagging me off. I was upset but I told my childhood friend and she is very quick-tempered and had a go at the two girls which was not really the right thing to do.

One of my best friends used to be badly bullied. Since she was from Wales she was made fun of alot. My peers used to call her stupid names like " Sheep-shagger. Older girls got into a fight with her and she was pressured to go since if she didnt then she is a " pu*sy" apparently.
She was beaten up, they ragged her hair and gave her a black eye.
Forunately the teachers were there before anything progressed but she is still emotionally suffering.

But really girls my age are really bitchy in my experience not all of them but alot of them. I hate bullying but sadly I feel that its part of life and that it will happen even if we tried to stop it. I think the best option is to try and raise children up correctly with the right values and offer support and help to those who are victims of bullying.

 

[Neil Peart]

Then you have those people who say shit like "if you don't want to be cyberbullied, stay off the computer!"

People really make me want to vomit.

 

[Her]

kids are cruel the world over; there's no single definitive root to bullying other than poor, or a lack of, moral judgement at that time

the act of bullying itself will naturally have a different cause in every case and so the only way to go about dealing with it is on a case by case basis, that's really the only way to show empathy to all concerned. perhaps i'm doing a little bit of devil's advocacy given how i was quite a shitstain in high school, but i digress.

i loathe the zero tolerance policies various schools seem to have on the subject. because not only does it uniformly paint childhood aggression as something to be uniformly punished instead of channelled or healed, more often than not the zero tolerance policies are simply fickle school politics that people skirt around with ease

and, well, sometimes bullying does end up helping people in the long run, lol

 

[Zakariya]

Bullying is a display of just how dumb people can truly be, and shows that parents really need to pay more attention to what goes on in their kids' lives. I have a good amount of stuff to say in this post, and there's also a video that I believe would contribute to the topic, though I'm not sure if I should post it here or not (depends what the staff is okay with here).

I'll start with my own story;

In K-12th grade schools, I was subjected to this just as many people here were. I was faced with a growing amount of insanity from it, and a certain factor at home that I don't feel comfortable sharing here.

While I was frequently pestered by other students, I was willing to fight back to the point where I gave the bullies bloody noses and on one occasion, a swollen eye. Despite showing that I was willing to pound the shit out of them, they still weren't scared. They didn't mind bleeding, losing teeth, or getting embarrassed in front of their friends. Eroding my sanity was worth that punishment to them.

As time went on, I learned that kicking their asses wouldn't get them to stop. It continued in high school, where embarrassments were more consequential, and this was where they proved how little they cared about their reputations.

Even if they got humiliated in front of their friends and it spread around the school, they just wouldn't leave me alone. It didn't matter if gave them visible bruises, or made them cry where everyone could see it, they just wanted to destroy what was left of my sanity, and wrecking their social lives in the process was worth it to them.

At this point, I learned that kicking a bully's ass to the point where they would look weak enough to be viable targets for other bullies didn't do anything. It didn't matter if they became permanently unrecognizable, they were willing to sacrifice anything for a few seconds of retarded gratification.

Junior year was where it slowly began to end, and where the path to enlightenment started. One day I was waiting for a ride home with one of my friends and my little brother, and a kid who cared nothing for his future came up to give me shit again, and I noticed a thick table leg freshly made from the wood shop hidden in the bushes. I picked it up and pretended like I was about to bash him in the head with it.

Not too surprisingly, he stomped off in fear while yelling a load of profane insults at me. It was obvious that he was scared shitless, though he didn't want anyone to know it. Getting beaten up didn't matter to him, but he clearly didn't want a broken skull.

Unfortunately, this caused a rumor to go around that gave me the reputation of a homicidal maniac, and the bullying steadily came to a halt, though this isn't how I wanted it to be, nor is that a method anyone should use to end bullying. While this didn't ruin my social life, it exposed the typical inherent cowardice bullies often have shoved deep inside of them.

I managed to graduate high school without making the horrid mistake that could have ruined my life, and sent me to hell without death. I already committed enough sins by caving into those morons, and beating them senseless in hopes that they would get the message.

After I graduated high school, life steadily got better since that garbage was out of the way, and I'm thankful I didn't end up like the victims who ravaged their schools for the sake of revenge. If I did give into that, I would have hurt the families of those dumbasses who have the misfortune of caring about those scumbags, and I'd be no better than them.

Violence wasn't the answer because they were obviously too thick, and I learned that I should spend a few minutes every day expressing gratitude that I didn't do among the most evil things anyone can do in life. I wasn't capable of that anyway.

I'm grateful that I was able to keep myself from turning into a murdering monster, and it definitely gave me the impression of just how much of a problem bullying is. While it can be taken care of at school, there are certainly areas where such a thing is more difficult.

The video I wanted to share was a testament to that, though if you want to see it you'll have to speak to me outside of this thread.

Overall, guys...just don't ever sink to that level, just don't. If you're feeling tremendously violent impulses or have in the past, get therapy if you can because not dealing with that isn't worth the risk.

 

[VisualJae]

One note before I continue, I refer to kids as anyone under the age of 18.

1. Parents need to know how to be parents.

2. Kids need to know how to communicate. Would help if parents teach their kids that communication is essential.

When one of the two fails, it's trouble. Of course, due to an infinite number of circumstances, not everything falls in line. Which is why there will always be a problem.

Then there's 3. Mentor figures, e.g. teachers or older kids who have been raised properly, need to teach younger kids how to choose their friends wisely. And then this ties into #2. You make good friends, you talk to these friends about problems when you cannot rely on family at that time.

Unfortunately there are more scumbags and/or idiots on this planet than there are respectable ones with brains. That's life for you.

I have not been bullied to the point where I thought it was a problem. I was fortunate to have come from an educated/morally sound family and made great friends at an early age (some of which I still talk to today, over two decades later). The only times I can remember being "bullied" were minor incidences that I'm sure 99% of kids go through. Kids joke around, some feelings get hurt. Someone makes fun of me. I get upset. Later on I make fun of someone else. They get upset. Kids do that because they don't fully understand. It's when kids don't know when to stop or speak up about stopping that it can potentially escalate into something worse.

Again, see #2. Communication. It's something I notice in virtually all kids I meet one way or another, people in general that I've met in the past, acquaintances and friends alike. Usually when someone has a longstanding issue, it's because they don't talk about it. Freakin' talk about it with someone.

 

[ShinyUmbreon189]

I don't usually condone violence either but when I was getting bullied they were basically asking for it. I haven't been bullied since 8th grade when I damn near hospitalized a kid. As J. Cole said, "Anybody is a killer, all you gotta do is push 'em to the limps (limits)". If you're getting bullied on a daily either learn to fight to defend yourself or continue to get bullied. Bully's that get their ass handed to them by what seemed to be a wimp will stop bullying that person.. Also it will show other bullies that you will defend yourself meaning they'll leave you alone if they're smart. You can call it what you want but the only legitimate solution to bullying seems to be fighting back, or finding a reliable circle of friends. Getting parents involved, the law involved, teachers involved, etc obviously doesn't work. Now I'm not saying to show up to school with a gun or switchblade (or any knife) and kill the bully but beating his ass with your hands is what I'm saying.. But, there's one thing I learned, you learn to fight from getting your ass kicked and that there's always somebody better.

 

[Pebbles]

I don't support bullying
It's simple, kids are idiots; they'll do whatever their parents do, they'll try to be like them. Most of the times that bullies grow up and continue to be bullies, it's because no one's accepted them or teach em a lesson.

you do not support it but you are basically saying you do feel sorry for them, people who are jerks for no good reason... and
placing the blame on OTHER people who are not in control of the bully his or her actions...
not to forget, no matter how much parents sometimes try, kids do not always listen to them..... you know that right?

so what you are basically saying is...
if i see somebody at my school bully somebody else next week and i do not take action and teach the person a lesson right there and then and tell them to stop it.... it is my fault and my fault alone that the person who got bullied is hurt... and it is my fault the person who is the bully, is bullying others....

seriously, if that is truly what you are telling me and you are not joking.... :pink_laugh:

also, about the whole kids do what their parents do....if you think kids become bullies because their parents are bullies too and so they think it is ok and copy their parents behaviour... you are right, that happens all the time....
doesn't mean though, that when the kid is old enough to know, because of life experience, what is mean and what is not... what is right and what is wrong.... what can hurt somebody badly and what not.... doesn't mean that they should ignore all that and just be a bully because they don't know any better because thats how they were brought up by their parents....
what i am saying is.... when you old enough, when your brain is old enough, you are more than capable of deciding to continue with the mean and bully kinda personality or to stop it and actually realise what you are doing... realise the kind of damage it causes and be different than your parents....
it is up to the person then what to do in life and how to live the life....

nobody is demanding for them to be bully, act mean for life and nobody is holding them away from the opportunity to change and be a better person and not be a bully....

and what do you mean, it is because they have not been accepted?
so when a kid joins a new school and does not get accepted by its new classmates right away, they got the right, because they feel insecure cause of that, they got the right to be a bully, be mean and say hurtful things?

yeah this all makes perfect sense , oh god i don't know why i am not feeling sorry for bullies

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it is primarily not their fault. They need to be taught a lesson and be socially included, if they continue to be that way when they're older, then prison is what's ahead of them.

tons of kids or grown up people even, get told to stop it and get taught a lesson every now and then, but does those actions always stop bullies from ever bullying people again later down the line? no.
so who is at fault then? after parents and teachers told kids to stop and took actions towards the bullying behaviour.... and kid doesn't stop because he or she literally does not give a fak because they are selfish that way....

bullying is mostly happening among teenagers i suppose and so i can say without a doubt, because when you 12+ (unless you got a disease i suppose, sometimes that can cause confusion for people) you are old enough to know what is right or wrong, it is only but the kid itself who has got it under control, wether they bully somebody or not. it is their decision to be selfish, mean, inconsidered of other people their feelings, rude and whatever else.
so many kids out there who get told by their parents all the time to behave all kind and sweet because they know what their kid is like sometimes... and the parents making themselves believe their kid is an angel anyway even though they know in the back of their head, they are little monsters when they are out of the house.

& how many times do bullies who caused by their actions for others to commid suicide or other terrible things actually get locked up or get a punishment they deserve for being a total jerk? i have a feeling the answer is; almost never.

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[Pinkie-Dawn]

I've made a thread a long time ago, where I compared school bullying to the predator-prey relationship. My conclusion is that bullying is a natural process throughout the animal kingdom, because bullies are also what describes predators (they hunt the weak). Granted I was constantly verbally bullied for my likes and dislikes in middle school and high school, but I was young and foolish back then, and it was the least of the teachers' concerns, because it's protected under freedom of speech. The point is what's the point of making bullying an international problem when it's also a common thing for other animals, with or without social structures like us humans?

 

[Killua]

I was always bullied for my entre life you know it sucks but is just a phase and is easy to passou the bully leader had to get out of the school and nobody even liked him is just a matter of patience and if you are bold a kick in the balls

 

[Corrin]

I was bullied my whole life up until I graduated college, because I was bullied in college too.
It was because to them, I was an easy target, I had a disability and often cried, people liked seeing how it hurt me so they kept doing it. They even admitted this right in front of a teacher and the teacher did nothing. In fact, often times, the teachers would get angry at me whenever I tried to stick up for myself.
Then when I was 12, adults in the neighborhood decided to join in and spread rumors about me and my family, I eventually had to move when I was 16 but it still continued with people here so :/ one girl even threatened to kill me. Though I've had my life threatened many times over the internet too.

 

[curiousnathan]

Alongside animal abuse, bullying in any way, shape or form is one of the things I absolutely hate. It actually crushes me inside when I hear about stories of people being bullied for whatever reason. There's absolutely no excuse to be a bully. Sure, a child that has been bullied themselves might have a propensity to bully others in the future, or carry on these behaviours to the next generation if they become role models or parents themselves, but that does not make it any less wrong.

I remember there was this one girl in primary school, Samantha, who was bullied constantly. Every day of her life she was picked on about something. The worst thing about this was that she had done absolutely nothing wrong to anyone. She was polite and friendly to everyone who talked to her. She was generous, kind and incredibly smart. Yet there seemed to be this running theme that it was okay to pick on her because "it's Samantha." Often, I'd see some of my friends or kids that didn't speak to her, talk rubbish about her or gossip behind her back and I'd ask them why they were doing it. I wasn't surprised by the response I got. "Because it's Samantha." How is that a valid reason to bully someone? In actual fact, there is no valid reason to bully someone period. I would constantly defend her day on end from people who hated her for no reason. She was a lovely girl and I'm sure she still is. I hated hearing her mother talk about how she would go home and cry every night and ask her mother "why do they hate me?" I don't speak to her anymore. It's been ~8 years since primary school. Last time I heard she was incredibly smart and scored in the top 3% of the state in her finals.

When it comes to dealing with bullying, the typical response is, "talk to the teachers" or "talk to human resources" or something along those lines. But quite frankly, that doesn't work in all situations. Sometimes you need to take things into your own hands. While people claim that violence is not a solution, they're wrong; it can be in many instances. It might have ramifications, but it can nonetheless serve as a solution. In essence, it might not be the best of solutions but it still is a solution. This is especially applicable to school yard bullying in particular.

There's no excuse for bullying someone, no matter what you say. Combating bullying is one of my biggest passions and I take bullying very seriously. It has the potential to ruin lives and its effects can ripple through families and generations.

 

[Loki]

I feel like I have a lot to say about the opposite perspective than the one that's been offered here, as I've mentioned before in another thread that I wasn't a very nice person in middle or high school-- but I think it'd be better if I didn't. Though, in light of coming from that side, it does makes me wonder. Pebbles said that people who have bullied another at some point in their life, regardless of even if it was just once or twice, are irrevocably pathetic. If someone you regarded as a friend- or even your mother or father told you that they had been a bully in the past, but that they were not anymore and were deeply remorseful of their behavior at the time, would you revoke your respect for that person?

Also, what in your opinion constitutes bullying? Does talking about someone behind their back count, or would you file that away as something that inevitably happens when you stick a bunch of sensitive teenagers together into one building and subject them to each other for over 60% of the year from 8AM-3PM? Or does it have to be a repeated series of targeted attacks on someone specifically singled out?