Super Smash Bros. Discussion

[Spinosaurus]

I'm not surprised, Samus really doesn't have anything going for her. It's sad though, because I really like her.

Also, I want to touch on ZSS. I personally think ZSS should be Number #2, after Sheik. She has favourable MUs against Rosaluma and Luigi, has great approach options and a rushdown game which is great for putting pressure on the opponent, as well as a stunning projectile, a combo throw into UpAir and Up+B and some excellent recovery.

1) Her grab (why she isn't the best)
2) She's hard to use
3) Nairo is the only one doing good with her

I agree with you otherwise though, but as it stands there's a reason why she isn't as highly regarded as other characters. It's why Luigi is top 3 right now (lol).

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

For those of you wondering how bad Samus is that warrants her own tier (P.S.: avoid reading the youtube comments, as they reek of fans complaining about how Sakurai's treating the Metroid series and deserves to be replaced):

 

[Nah]

lol Pinkie I was thinking of that very same video

Honestly Samus would be a fair bit better if her hitbox issues were fixed and Super Missiles didn't do such shitty knockback. They're fucking Super Missiles, c'mon Nintendo

 

[GengyGengar]

Also if she had some kind of kill throw.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Here's another interesting info regarding Sakurai from a recent article:

I feel really sorry for him in this current situation; he deserves a nice long rest once the ballot DLC is done and over with.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Friend wrote an article on Wario in Smash.
Go check it out!
https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/08/11/wariofart1/

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Friend wrote an article on Wario in Smash.
Go check it out!
https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/08/11/wariofart1/

I'm glad this article covered the criticisms towards Wario's portrayal in Smash and how unjustified they were. Now we need an article on Ganondorf's clone status and the Ridley debate.

 

[GreenFlame]

Project M v3.6 was released yesterday! Unfortunately, there is still no PAL release, but that won't stop me. Here is what it has, according to SmashWiki:

Spoiler:

• The addition of 0 To Death Mode, in which player's damage is reset when they escape from a combo.
• The option to have automatic L-Canceling.
• New announcer
• The return of several Brawl stages such as Luigi's Mansion and Spear Pillar.
• HD remake for Saffron City and Peach's Castle.
• Alternate Stage loader by holding L+A buttons on stage select (accesses new stages such as Delfino's Secret; past stages such as Planet Zebes, N64 Yoshi's Island, Sector Z and the Melee version of Battlefield (some stages like Pokémon Stadium will be an ASL for Pokémon Stadium II to make room for returning Brawl stages.) and the Brawl versions of updated stages like Summit, Distant Planet and Green Hill Zone.)
• Removal of Dracula's Castle (which is, in turn, replaced by Delfino's Secret) due to legal reasons, as well as the removal of Princess Peach's Castle and Rainbow Cruise.
• New music for Smashville, Metal Cavern, and the newly added stages.
• A new black Armored Charizard recolor, Mr. L recolors, an orange recolor for Diddy Kong, a revamped red Pit color, Classic Dark Pit, Mario Kart DS ROB, Wii ROB, Dark Suit Samus, as well as graphical upgrades for some of Samus, Meta Knight, and Zero Suit Samus's costumes from 3.5.
• Various bug fixes (notably, the bugs and glitches that plagued Olimar and the Ice Climbers in 3.5).
• A new Bowser's Castle stage.
• A new Delfino's Secret stage.
• WarioWare revamped into a Wario Land themed stage, with the original Brawl version available as an alternate stage.
• The return of Rainbow Cruise and Bridge of Eldin as alternate stages for Peach's Castle and Hyrule Castle, respectively.
• Only applying to the latter two stages, players have access to "Hidden Alternate Stages" by holding the Z button.
• This accesses the N64 versions of Peach's Castle and Hyrule Castle.
• A competitive version of the Bowser's Castle stage added as an alternate stage.

 

[Night Watcher]

We need to have another smash tournament. I've been dying to fight people since I've improved my skills. :)

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Project M v3.6 was released yesterday! Unfortunately, there is still no PAL release, but that won't stop me. Here is what it has, according to SmashWiki:

Spoiler:

• The addition of 0 To Death Mode, in which player's damage is reset when they escape from a combo.
• The option to have automatic L-Canceling.
• New announcer
• The return of several Brawl stages such as Luigi's Mansion and Spear Pillar.
• HD remake for Saffron City and Peach's Castle.
• Alternate Stage loader by holding L+A buttons on stage select (accesses new stages such as Delfino's Secret; past stages such as Planet Zebes, N64 Yoshi's Island, Sector Z and the Melee version of Battlefield (some stages like Pokémon Stadium will be an ASL for Pokémon Stadium II to make room for returning Brawl stages.) and the Brawl versions of updated stages like Summit, Distant Planet and Green Hill Zone.)
• Removal of Dracula's Castle (which is, in turn, replaced by Delfino's Secret) due to legal reasons, as well as the removal of Princess Peach's Castle and Rainbow Cruise.
• New music for Smashville, Metal Cavern, and the newly added stages.
• A new black Armored Charizard recolor, Mr. L recolors, an orange recolor for Diddy Kong, a revamped red Pit color, Classic Dark Pit, Mario Kart DS ROB, Wii ROB, Dark Suit Samus, as well as graphical upgrades for some of Samus, Meta Knight, and Zero Suit Samus's costumes from 3.5.
• Various bug fixes (notably, the bugs and glitches that plagued Olimar and the Ice Climbers in 3.5).
• A new Bowser's Castle stage.
• A new Delfino's Secret stage.
• WarioWare revamped into a Wario Land themed stage, with the original Brawl version available as an alternate stage.
• The return of Rainbow Cruise and Bridge of Eldin as alternate stages for Peach's Castle and Hyrule Castle, respectively.
• Only applying to the latter two stages, players have access to "Hidden Alternate Stages" by holding the Z button.
• This accesses the N64 versions of Peach's Castle and Hyrule Castle.
• A competitive version of the Bowser's Castle stage added as an alternate stage.

Hmm, Ridley isn't included on the list. Is he still being worked on, or is he already available to the public to play since the last update?

 

[PokéSwimmer]

Hmm, Ridley isn't included on the list. Is he still being worked on, or is he already available to the public to play since the last update?

Ridley was never confirmed by the PMDT. You're probably thinking of that fanmade Ridley that someone made a while back.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Ridley was never confirmed by the PMDT. You're probably thinking of that fanmade Ridley that someone made a while back.

The one made by Bagan from Smashboards? Yeah, that's the one. I thought the PMDT have already approved it, so I guess it's still in beta form.

 

[Nah]

Btw, is anyone interested in doing this besides me and Kokoro?:

We need to have another smash tournament. I've been dying to fight people since I've improved my skills. :)

 

[Spinosaurus]

I'm interested.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Don't know if this could mean anything, but: https://twitter.com/LaytonSmash/status/635188962257190912

A similar situation happened with Shulk's voice actor prior to his reveal, where he was only teasing on his tweet.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Don't know if this could mean anything, but: https://twitter.com/LaytonSmash/status/635188962257190912

A similar situation happened with Shulk's voice actor prior to his reveal, where he was only teasing on his tweet.

No way he isn't being sarcastic. He'd be under NDA otherwise.

The Shulk situation I remember clearly him saying it was something "he can't talk about yet". Way different.

 

[Night Watcher]

If anyone does try to host a smash tournament, would it be the same as last time or would we use the tournament option on smash now?

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Nintendo has announced that Smash Bros. will be at PAX, and apparently, this guy from Unseen64 claims to know something that's going to be shown there: https://twitter.com/Doctor_Cupcakes/status/636263633610231811

I hear he has ties with people that work in the game industry and has revealed a lot information about various cancelled games and betas, as well as some reliable info such as ZombiU going multi-platform, but ever since the whole Devil's Third debacle, where he claimed that NoA won't be publishing the game due to how poor it's made prior to the reveal that NoA is still publishing the game and how it's getting good reviews from Japan in Amazon, I really don't trust this guy, so I doubt that a new DLC character will be revealed at PAX.

 

[Nah]

I'm generally skeptical and wouldn't really trust the guy either, but I suppose it's not impossible that they'd reveal a new DLC character then either. Curious to see who from the ballot they've decided to go with, if they're going with someone from the ballot at all.

 

[Spinosaurus]

but ever since the whole Devil's Third debacle, where he claimed that NoA won't be publishing the game due to how poor it's made prior to the reveal that NoA is still publishing the game and how it's getting good reviews from Japan in Amazon, I really don't trust this guy, so I doubt that a new DLC character will be revealed at PAX.

That doesn't mean he's unreliable. For all we know NoA weren't going to localize the game initially but changed their minds later at one point. (But he didn't know)

Leaks aren't so straightforward.