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[Iceshadow3317]

Well Serena is becoming massive in battling when it comes to the newest show. She isn't sitting on the side lines like she was. I also would love to see Serena-Delphox to get a blue ribbon like Serena wears, if we get one to start with.

I bring up Serena-Delphox, because it is possible that Greninja is actually a Mega Evolution that doesn't require a Mega Stone. It could just be having maxed love and friendship with that pokemon.

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However, in the newest episode, Alain vs Ash(According to what I have read from people), Alain's Mega Energy tracker went totally crazy when Greninja transformed. If Greninja is a mega, then we can see the other Kalos starters also getting Megas in a similar form. Not to mention that the timeline we are currently in in ORAS, makes Alain canon to the games..

 

[illumine]

I really still hate how Serena's goal has no battling at all. It's quite a let-down compared to May and Dawn, because it's making me feel the impression that Serena would easily lose to the previous girls who have had more battle experience than her.

Ugh, that? Essentially they have Pokémon and battling is a thing, so you get creatures adapted to battling and then you just have a bunch of people walk on stage with them and tell them to use moves as part of a show, because presumably they are suicidal. Either that or they hate Pokémon and just want to neutralise any sense that their attacks may be consequential or that they can fight. But yeah, if they were suicidal, as is presumably implied, then if they were dead then they couldn't really battle.

Well Serena is becoming massive in battling when it comes to the newest show.

This hardly seems plausible, in a sense, as the battling itself is becoming increasingly trivial - apart from perhaps the Charizard-Greninja thing, which was still basically just a Greninja being caught in place and a Charizard just throwing moves at it. Mostly some Pokémon just have moves targeted against them, but they more or less arbitrarily don't get knocked out, and then their opponents get knocked out by significantly less because it seems convenient. It really comes off as unnecessary and something that you could bypass, but there's not really much else going on other than incessant romance plots which are presumably meant to appeal to the same audience as performances, because apparently Pokémon doesn't seem to figure it has any other audience by this point. Serena is still hardly being portrayed as any better than Miette apart from really out-of-place hijinks, they're not perhaps assumed to be that good.

And it was a strange idea to have a character whose primary purpose is the side-show that is performances and apparently holding Serena hostage until she tells the protagonist that she's in love or something, but rivalries just aren't the same by this point. You wonder if the both of them aren't just this off-beat allusion to Megara.

It's quite a let-down compared to May and Dawn, because it's making me feel the impression that Serena would easily lose to the previous girls who have had more battle experience than her.

That said, their role is to wander around and occasionally play a romantic role, rather than to battle each other, so that doesn't necessarily seem consequential. In any case all of their plot-lines are basically just a question of, 'They start off needing some guidance in battling, then they become 'good' in some undefined manner and for no real reason or concrete alterations,' which is a bit ludicrous. Their battling hence blurs into their romance sub-plots, etc., so that it wouldn't be much of a surprise if Serena was supposed to be strong basically out of nowhere in the near future.

This despite the fact that their 'strength' in battling ultimately comes down to luck.

 

[AnbuBorutoUchiha]

I agree Serena is complete luck shit even I like Iris more than her and even Max or Marin can beat her

 

[llysender]

OMG they actually eat the vanillite line in the anime

Started on rival destinies yesterday, kind of preferred the original OP for season 14 but season 15 is not too bad.
Everything was ok until episode 4.

Apperently the artists of Nimbasa city eat the vanillite line as snacks. There is no more defending that that line was purely made for food reasons and its only reason for existance is to be eaten.

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Yes I know those are gummy ice creams made to look like the vanillite line but its more fun to think otherwise XD

 

[Hikamaru]

Started on rival destinies yesterday, kind of preferred the original OP for season 14 but season 15 is not too bad.
Everything was ok until episode 4.

Apperently the artists of Nimbasa city eat the vanillite line as snacks. There is no more defending that that line was purely made for food reasons and its only reason for existance is to be eaten.

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Yes I know those are gummy ice creams made to look like the vanillite line but its more fun to think otherwise XD

I think those are not actually Vanillite and its evolutions, but rather ice creams that are the in shape of them. I think the Vanillite one could have easy used a small cup that resembles the base of its body, and maybe a stylized cone for the Vanillish one, as well as likely using decorations to make their faces. Vanillite and its evolutions' designs actually appear to be sentient icicles with snow covering their head that makes them look like an ice-cream cone.

There's also the fact that Vanillite, Vanillish and Vanilluxe's actual size proportions are much larger than a real ice-cream cone. Even Vanillite itself is much larger than a standard ice-cream in a cone.

 

[Charlie Brown]

Hey guys! I'm hosting movie nights in General Entertainment and I wanted to know if anyone is interested in anime nights as well? Could be fun to stream some old school episodes on a weekly basis and get the community together 8) Let me know!

 

[Iceshadow3317]

So I have been looking at what happens in Episode 112 in the XY series.

Spoilers coming up:

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According to Bulbapedia when Serena lost to Aria, she was approached by the older woman. The following is from Bulbapedia:

'After that, Serena was approached by Palermo to become her protégé so she could become a better performer to have a chance at being the next Kalos Queen. Serena however, declined the offer telling her that her journey with her friends has helped her develop and until she finishes she can't go with her, Serena is then told by Palermo; "Continue your journey & to call once you're satisfied."'

With this being said, and almost guarantees that Serena will be leaving after XY. Do you think she will just leave temporary and then come back to 'train' more with Ash as he travels or do you think she will be like all other characters like most of us think? This would also simi confirm that the new region is not near Kalos.

It reminds me of Dawn, but this time there is a more direct love interest involved for Serena. Dawn did't want to go with Kenny because she wanted to stay with Ash until the end of Sinnoh.

If Serena stays or goes, what would you like the new female trainer to be? I really want there to be a female gym challenger. I think it would be a nice change to have to gym challengers as the main characters. Maybe a double battle league or something where the two trainers have to work together. I also think it would be an amazing final battle in the Pokemon League.

And now on to my next question. Why do you think literally all of Ash's traveling companions and a few of his rivals are going to Johto? It just seems odd to me that so many are going to Johto. As far as I know, May, Iris, Dawn, and multiple rivals have went there. I do not remember where Cilan went after he parted from Brock. And Brock is probably traveling between Johto and Kanto. To be fairly honest, I think they are setting up the end of the anime in Johto to fight Team Rocket and having most of the main characters returning at some point. But this might be a long long time from now.

 

[Sheep]

Hey guys! I'm hosting movie nights in General Entertainment and I wanted to know if anyone is interested in anime nights as well? Could be fun to stream some old school episodes on a weekly basis and get the community together 8) Let me know!

I'd definitely be interested, it's been ages since I saw some old episodes. c=

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And now on to my next question. Why do you think literally all of Ash's traveling companions and a few of his rivals are going to Johto? It just seems odd to me that so many are going to Johto. As far as I know, May, Iris, Dawn, and multiple rivals have went there. I do not remember where Cilan went after he parted from Brock. And Brock is probably traveling between Johto and Kanto. To be fairly honest, I think they are setting up the end of the anime in Johto to fight Team Rocket and having most of the main characters returning at some point. But this might be a long long time from now.

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I could be alone in thinking this but I feel the fact many traveling companions are ending up in Johto (which I hadn't even noticed, admittedly) is coincidental. May traveled through Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn to collect ribbons and then appeared in Sinnoh to participate in the Wallace Cup so she explored each region that was available up until that point, not just Johto.

Iris though, while she did to go Johto to battle Clair, right at the end of that same episode she saw Rayquaza flying through the sky and then decided to follow it to close off her story, right? In which case it makes most sense to assume she went to Hoenn long-term. Cilan did travel to Johto and stayed there from what I remember though, whereas Dawn went to Hoenn to work on her goal of becoming Top Coordinator and later to Johto.

So from that we know or can assume...
Brock > Johto, as an apprentice to a Pokémon doctor
May > all main regions that were available up until gen IV (where she made her last appearance), to compete for ribbons/participate in the Wallace Cup
Dawn > Hoenn, then Johto (for the Wallace Cup)
Iris > Hoenn? (following Rayquza)
Cilan > Johto (to study more on being a connoisseur)

So going by that it looks to me like Hoenn had just about an equal mention. If the writers would actually include Kanto in these things the list would be a lot more evened out, I feel?

 

[Iceshadow3317]

Yo guys, if you have seen all the news on Pokemon Sun and Moon, I can honestly say I would not mind at all if Serena is replaced by the female from Sun and Moon games. I love Serena, but I really love the female's design in Pokemon Sun and Moon. Hopefully they don't treat her like White/Hilda and ignore her and give him a gym leader if Serena is replaced.

 

[Famon]

Honestly , I think XY series would have been more enjoyable if Ash had a female rival like Georgia and Burgundy.
Imagine A Tsundere girl who told a grudge on Ash for defeating her But also seem to hold some affection for him which she denies.

 

[Hikamaru]

Yo guys, if you have seen all the news on Pokemon Sun and Moon, I can honestly say I would not mind at all if Serena is replaced by the female from Sun and Moon games. I love Serena, but I really love the female's design in Pokemon Sun and Moon. Hopefully they don't treat her like White/Hilda and ignore her and give him a gym leader if Serena is replaced.

I do think the new female protagonist from Sun & Moon definitely gives off an Ash companion vibe and wouldn't be surprised if she's the new female lead for the anime (her starter seems likely to be Rowlet or Popplio). Hilda getting completely ignored in favour of Iris was one of the downsides of BW for me so I hope he doesn't get two Gym Leaders for companions again, but granted BW was doing a lot of Kanto throwbacks and acting a lot like a reboot in that manner, such as reverting Ash back into a noob.

 

[Iceshadow3317]

Yeah. Then Kalos acted like Hoenn and kinda Sinnoh, so I am hoping Alola is a lot like Sinnoh. Then I am almost 100% sure he will win.

Most of my predictions for the XY anime have come true and I have been somewhat accurate about when until XYZ started. I really hope all of Alola will be like Pokemon XYZ.

If the female from the games is in it and she isn't going to be a gym challenger, I really hope she does Pokéathlon or Pokemon Racing. Ash could participate, but not be a winner other than a few times. I think having a main character do Pokeathlons would be totally amazing and it wouldn't always have to be the same thing.

 

[Palamon]

Here's my honest opinion about what I want Sun & Moon to be like. I'd love it if Ash is with TWO newbie trainers. Two instead of one. Maybe the guy newbie could be unsure of what his goal is, and the girl newbie could try racing, as IcyIce stated above me.

...But two newbies will never happen. He'll probably get with one of the most kid looking male gym leader as his male companion. :|

 

[Hikamaru]

Here's my honest opinion about what I want Sun & Moon to be like. I'd love it if Ash is with TWO newbie trainers. Two instead of one. Maybe the guy newbie could be unsure of what his goal is, and the girl newbie could try racing, as IcyIce stated above me.

...But two newbies will never happen. He'll probably get with one of the most kid looking male gym leader as his male companion. :|

There's always the chance the writers could change it up a lot, especially when you consider all the patterns XY broke.

 

[Famon]

Here's my honest opinion about what I want Sun & Moon to be like. I'd love it if Ash is with TWO newbie trainers. Two instead of one. Maybe the guy newbie could be unsure of what his goal is, and the girl newbie could try racing, as IcyIce stated above me.

...But two newbies will never happen. He'll probably get with one of the most kid looking male gym leader as his male companion. :|

How about We have new female companion who happen to be the Professor's assistant and traveling to Gather Data about Alola Legendary Or True strength of Pokemon ?
At least , That way She and Ash can run into that Evil Team that's after Alola legendary and want all the Data She collected.
Honestly , I wish for a New Girl who acts like the "Lass" from Pokemon Origin!
Suppose --

--–1) Ash does something to Anger her (Like Pikachu accidentally frying her bike) which promote her to battle Ash that end like -

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---2) She still refuse to admit Ash to be stronger then her So she start following Ash around for rematch.

---3) She's will be a girl with high IQ who researching the best way for a pokemon to be stronger! That's the main reason she can not accept Ash's superiority over her due to their intellectual difference.

---4) She laugh at Ash when he decide to challenge a gym-leader claiming that Ash is too young to challenge a gym-leader with just a pikachu.

---5) She & New male companion will also get Mad when Ash bluntly challenges An E4 member for a battle without showing any manner.

---6) However , This will be her face when Ash wins his 1st Gym-battle

---7) Afterward , She start following Ash around to learn his secret however Ash will not be thrill about her following him around and telling him what to do.

 

[Drake22ice]

Contests need to return, so I would love a newbie trainer that is a big May and Drew fan be Ash's companion. I would see her being like the protagonist for Sun and Moon and start with a Rowlet. Then, a science discovery type kid that is collecting rare stones and has a fossil pokemon. He could end up finding new stones that may evolve certain types (such as an Eevee that the girl could get).

 

[Kurosaki]

Contests coming back would be cool!

Though, I would be lying if I said that I disliked the performances that Serena participates in. They usually make for cute episodes. That could be just the girly side of me that likes all the colorful, sparkly stage performances. Contests definitely weren't as made up.

re: Origins, I've pretty much given up on the main series anime characters being more like the game characters. It just never really happens, except for the rivals being similar sometimes.

Ash traveling with two newbies instead of one would be neat, though, rather than a Gym Leader dropping their lives at the drop of a hat for Ash.

 

[Hikamaru]

So I found this.

It turns out the Kalos League arc will be beginning at the end of June, and Ash will probably catch his final Kalos team member around that time since he'll need six Pokemon for the full battle rounds. But if this is to go by, Ash is probably going to use only his Kalos team which is disappointing because I was hoping for his older-gen reserves to come back.

But if the League is starting in June-July, and S/M aren't released until November, this means we may get a lot of fillers after the League ends and eventually leading up to the inevitable farewell for Serena, Bonnie and Clemont while Ash discovers the Alola region and is heading on his way there.

 

[Iceshadow3317]

Well Team Flare Arc will probably start right after the League. Similar to how Team Plasma's Arc was after the League. Team Flare hasn't been stopped yet.

Goodra is also coming back and that still doesn't mean Ash won't bring back any old pokemon.


According to the titles, there is supposed to be a Charizard X vs Y. This leads me to believe that Ash will bring back Charizard. As only Trevor and Alaine have badges and Alaine has not indicated anything about badges.

It also seems like Tierno and Sawyer battle in which it sounds like Sawyer loses.

 

[Luzu]

I've already mentioned this, but it's possible that Alan will be in the League if it's a Team Flare plot. That is if they are going to do the Flame Arc within the league. I've heard people hope that it's not what happens (considering the location and what happened in France in the past year), so it's really up in the air right now. We'll likely be getting more information as we get closer to the league. But, as I mentioned somewhere else, is that the Charizard X and Y battle might not have anything to do with Ash. Not when he has Ash-Greninja and Mega Evolution is something he would also have to overcome. Why do Ash-Greninja and have him overcome that just to give him a Mega? Not good writing, in my opinion.