The Darkest Dungeon

[Spectrum]

Is the houndmaster going to out before he gets slaughtered?

Isn't it obvious? My fishing for leads yesterday wasn't exactly subtle. :P

Anyway, I come bearing information: Arsonist visited me last night. Based on the post that seems to narrow him down to one of these (lol): Bloodletter, Thug, Cutthroat, Necromancer, Shambler or possibly Arbalist.

Somehow I don't see him saving me as the Arbalist, considering he was trying to make a case against me yesterday. With the 14 damage he took yesterday, and then being finished off by one attack today, I'm guessing he was a Thug, and might have had the same or maybe slightly more HP than a villager.

I didn't get a report on Sopheria yesterday, so either she didn't visit, or I was roleblocked.

I attacked Spectrum because they were the last poster before me.

Indeed you did, but I'm glad macho pointed out that there was 12 attack points between you and Arsonist. Based on how quickly Arsonist died, we now know that either you or Mars has a pretty high attack value. Which one of you was it?

I'm trying to avoid OMGUS, but your post yesterday kinda seemed like you wanted to shut down discussion:

b) wow is this really day one??? IT'S SO CUTTHROAT IN HERE jesus christ

i just sat here smiling like an idiot at how quickly everyone turned against each other lol

 

[Zeffy]

Indeed you did, but I'm glad macho pointed out that there was 12 attack points between you and Arsonist. Based on how quickly Arsonist died, we now know that either you or Mars has a pretty high attack value. Which one of you was it?

But i didn't attack Arsonist...? I don't know what you're trying to imply here but you're pointing your finger at the wrong person.

I'm trying to avoid OMGUS, but your post yesterday kinda seemed like you wanted to shut down discussion:

I was simply posting my (tipsy) observations. I had no other intentions (at least, none that I remember).

 

[faer]

Some stats: Based on the numbers from yesterdays night, the ppl attacking the Giant did an avarage of about 3,5 damage/charakter.
This makes me very suspicious of all the people doing above 4 damage, namely Zeffy and Arsonist, jdthebud, machomuu, melody (I believe nimsys claim to be a villager for now).
Now my main target from that list is already dead...

Either because marz has a high attack or possibly because he also suffered some damage during one of the nights.
Edit: Looking into the night's damage, I don't really see any conclusive possibility how Arsonist got damaged at night, since the only bad role with several hps lost is the swine prince, and i'd assume he got soem decent HP...

I like how most of the Villagers are now Villagers with roles, though the mention of some of them having evil intentions -.- uh-oh more chaos...

So Spektrum, is that really all you can share?

Also we see neither the Crane nor the Hag attacking this night. Assuming that's not due to cutting the narrative short, I'm not very surprised the Swine Prince wasn't attacked again. (though I'm surprised they didn't akt!?)

My internet is pretty unstable for the next three days, so my posts can be outdated (like when I manage to submit an answer, I only don't see last hours posts or something....) So probably not too much input from my today.... *sad*

 

[Spectrum]

But i didn't attack Arsonist...?

Not what I said, but I'll admit my post was a little unclear.

You and Arsonist attacked me yesterday and did 12 damage. Today, Marz attacked Arsonist, who seemingly had 14 damage against him, and killed him fairly easily. Without delving into the millions of possible game mechanics we don't know about, there's two likely scenarios:

1) If Arsonist was a Thug, I'd expect him to have fairly unremarkable HP and attack values, which makes it likely Marz did a few points of damage and finished him off. That means you did a lot of damage to me yesterday.

or

2) If Arsonist was one of the more powerful roles I mentioned, he likely had higher HP, which means Marz must have a very high attack value to finish him off. That means Arsonist probably also had a high attack value, and most of the damage on me yesterday wasn't from you.

I don't know what you're trying to imply here but you're pointing your finger at the wrong person.

I'll repeat what I said to Arsonist: I'm not implying anything, I'm just asking questions to suss out your alignment. From my perspective both you and Marz seem to have higher than normal attack values, but as I explained above, it's likely one of you has a much higher attack value than the other, which I'm speculating is a scum tell.

Also don't think I missed that ninja edit bro. ;)

So Spektrum, is that really all you can share?

What else do you want me to share?

 

[faer]

What else do you want me to share?

Ok, I guess I'm a bit tired still. So you didn't get a report on Sopheria yesterday could mean she visited someone else?

Depending on how the day goes we're pretty likely to now whether Arsonist was the Arbalist by tomorow morning.

Since the Arbalist seems to know who the Bloodletter and the Necromancer are, please do not wait too long to share this info, especially if you already lost HP. That's pretty valuable info...

 

[Spectrum]

No, I find out who a player visits during the night. Arsonist visited me last night which is pretty much what I expected.

The lack of report on Sopheria probably means she didn't visit, but I'm clarifying there is a small chance I was roleblocked, or she is a stealth killer (Ninja) or something along those lines.

Seems important to note these things due to the lack of reveals.

 

[Ullion]

I'll repeat what I said to Arsonist: I'm not implying anything, I'm just asking questions to suss out your alignment. From my perspective both you and Marz seem to have higher than normal attack values, but as I explained above, it's likely one of you has a much higher attack value than the other, which I'm speculating is a scum tell.

So could you tell me what a "normal attack value" would range between? I figured my own attack isn't high, but is higher than average from what I know of - but I am definitely innocent. So having a high ATK doesn't automatically make you scum. :/

 

[gimmepie]

So could you tell me what a "normal attack value" would range between? I figured my own attack isn't high, but is higher than average from what I know of - but I am definitely innocent. So having a high ATK doesn't automatically make you scum. :/

Your friendly neighbourhood Giant confirming that high ATK doesn't always mean scum. Also, no idea how I made it through the night with no damage but I guess I might as well confirm for you that to the best of my knowledge attacking me at night doesn't have any real side-effects aside from making me want to give you the Foxrally treatment if I find out who you are.

Anyway, I honestly can't make anything more out of this right now than has already been said but you guys should more or less treat today although you get two kill votes instead of the one. Aside from all your normal votes, if you all come to a consensus about a target for me to hulk-smash I'll gladly go ahead and do that.

 

[Mana1]

So many people ended up in the same area last night - Spectrum got wrecked. I'm not sure where this leads us though. I'm gonna do some number crunching.

 

[Mana1]

Findings:

jdthebud's [attack] strength is 5.
machomuu's [attack] strength is 5.
wizardman11's [attack] strength is 2.
Zehn's [attack] strength is 2.

Candy was the only person hurt who was not attacked or abstained.

Marz has more health than a typical villager.

If anyone who did not attack gimmepie would like to confirm their attack strength it would be appreciated! :)

Perhaps we should be reading up on lore for those (like me) who have no idea. One thing I found that was particularly troubling:

ne of the members of the infamous " brigands brigade " Brigand Bloodletter is the heavy tank of the group. While his primary role is to soak up damage and inflict AOE bleed, beware of his " point blank shot " ability as it can inflict massive regular and critical damage. Despite this, it's usually better to deal with the other two bandits first.

 

[Strange]

Findings:

jdthebud's [attack] strength is 5.
machomuu's [attack] strength is 5.
wizardman11's [attack] strength is 2.
Zehn's [attack] strength is 2.

Candy was the only person hurt who was not attacked or abstained.

Marz has more health than a typical villager.

If anyone who did not attack gimmepie would like to confirm their attack strength it would be appreciated! :)

Perhaps we should be reading up on lore for those (like me) who have no idea. One thing I found that was particularly troubling:

I can confirm that my attack is 2
I'm also interested in how those numbers villagers submitted effected their role, if anyone would feel comfortable sharing their info with us maybe we could find a pattern.

 

[Sopheria]

Depending on how the day goes we're pretty likely to now whether Arsonist was the Arbalist by tomorow morning.

We're certain to know what Arsonist's role was by tomorrow morning.

Also, adding to Mana's list:

aeternum and Hopeless Masquerade both do 3 points of damage. In general I think we should avoid attacking anyone who is confirmed to have an attack strength of 3 or less (especially if they have 2), since the more dangerous roles probably have higher attack power. That's just pure speculation on my part though, I'll admit, but I'm not sure what else we have right now in terms of how to decide who we should attack.

 

[Mana1]

I do wonder which relationship is most likely.

High attack power + high attack NA.
Or High attack power + low attack NA (/opposite).

We know, for instance, that Gimme has a very high attack rate in the day but no actual power during the night.

 

[Abby]

Yes, I can confirm that I did 2 points of damage to arsonist yesterday.

 

[Nakuzami]

I do wonder which relationship is most likely.

High attack power + high attack NA.
Or High attack power + low attack NA (/opposite).

We know, for instance, that Gimme has a very high attack rate in the day but no actual power during the night.

I would assume that you do the same amount of damage during days and nights? It's just that only certain roles can attack during the night. That's what I figured, at least.

If it helps at all, I only have an attack power of four. Not much to brag about.

 

[Sopheria]

Yea, that's true actually...it could be the opposite, for balance reasons. I guess we'll figure it out as the game evolves and we have more confirmed information to reference, as long as we continue keeping track of things the way we've been.

I'm at a loss though, I'm not sure who it makes the most sense to attack at this point :c

Edit: I can confirm having an attack power of 4.

 

[Spectrum]

So could you tell me what a "normal attack value" would range between? I figured my own attack isn't high, but is higher than average from what I know of - but I am definitely innocent. So having a high ATK doesn't automatically make you scum. :/

1) On the first day, we figured out that night attackers didn't do any more than 5 damage each. We also know that villagers have 2 attack. The average between 2 and 5 is 3.5.

2) I copped 15 damage last night from 5 different scum, which is an average of 3 damage per person.

3) There were 19 attacks on Pie yesterday, totaling 62 damage. 62 damage / 19 people = 3.26 damage per person.

Around 3 to 3.5 seems like a fairly average attack value. There is an average of 6 points between Arsonist and Zeffy, and as I've explained it's likely the balance is skewed in one direction, so that one of them has 7 or more attack points. That's important given how quickly Arsonist died at Marz' hands, and Zeffy's claim to not having a high attack value.

[Attack] Arsonist

Most of your posts don't make sense to me. Your logic worries me and I think you're a liability.

Are you around? It'd be really helpful to know your attack value, so we can figure out who's who in this zoo.

Mine is 4.

 

[Strange]

What's with Foxrally being alive and all? Is he the Necromancer's Skeleton Minion now?

It said the necromancer ate his remains? So is he poop? I don't understand XD

 

[Zehn]

sorry I'm late, I was waiting for the notification like in FDL
So that was eventful, the remain eating kinda is a good indication to kill it. Anyway did gimmiepie survive? -62 is quite a lot to take

 

[esperance]

So uh hi. Klippy do you think you could send out quote notifications each phase change? It would certainly be helpful. c: