The Darkest Dungeon

[gimmepie]

Don't know if it's been clarified or known yet, so I have a question for everyone:

When Klippy makes the phase change post from night -> day and it shows how much damage each role has taken... is it how much damage was taken that night, or how much damage that role has taken in total?

I couldn't say for sure but I'm fairly certain it is just for that phase change.

Also, confirming that I don't deal recoil damage even though I kinda wish I did since that'd just be epic on top of my OP stats.

 

[Ullion]

I couldn't say for sure but I'm fairly certain it is just for that phase change.

Also, confirming that I don't deal recoil damage even though I kinda wish I did since that'd just be epic on top of my OP stats.

Okay thanks. So I've taken either 19 or 13 damage, so far. Eeesh, someone hates me :/

And that would be broken. XD
-> Have lots of HP
-> Needs to be hit many times to die
-> Each time you're hit you do recoil damage
-> Everyone dies from recoil damage before you do
(Not even taking into account your 20 damage per day, too)

 

[machomuu]

When Klippy makes the phase change post from night -> day and it shows how much damage each role has taken... is it how much damage was taken that night, or how much damage that role has taken in total?

It's just that night, it doesn't factor in previous nights or the day (as the latter would give people a lot more insight as to who's who).

 

[Alex]

Getting to the main point: Yesterday Arsonist took 6 damage. marz attacked and killed him. marz seid he has an attack of 9... The day before Foxrally took 22 damage and died by an at of the Giant. Fox very much implied, that he was a normal villager. As such he should have had 18 HP, not 22.
So at least one of those two is lying. Either fox "missed" to tell us which role he was before he died or marz "exaggerated" the amount of damage he does.

Hi faer, I don't see how those two variables are related.... Both Gimmiepie and I could very well be telling the truth about our attack strength. Which, upon double checking, I can assure you I did tell the truth. I attack for 9.

Even if Foxrally had 18 HP, the fact was that Gimmiepie attacked for 22. This is very commonplace in games. Your enemy has 1 health left, but you hit him hard and do 100 damage. You didn't do 1 damage to kill him, you did the full 100.

I appreciate you trying to weed out any possible suspicions but I think you're looking at a dead end right now.

 

[Strange]

Didn't Zehn said that he couldn't heal himself? Can someone confirm that? My internet's been really shitty.

Regarding gunner's matter. I am also in every other game except for Mathia, i haven't active as usual but i tried to post anyway, gunner's been really afk, it's not enough to suss her out but at least she could be investigated at night.

lol I figured out her role last night, gunner's good. ;)

and zehn said klippy just informed him he can heal himself :)

 

[Zehn]

Just a thing I noticed, Mana was one of the people who were aggressively interrogating me, but now he is siding with me, quite spontaneously. Now I'm not holding a grudge, I'm just saying I'm watching him, but maybe he just feels bad I don't really know

 

[machomuu]

Just a thing I noticed, Mana was one of the people who were aggressively interrogating me, but now he is siding with me, quite spontaneously. Now I'm not holding a grudge, I'm just saying I'm watching him, but maybe he just feels bad I don't really know

I don't particularly blame him, your claims were pretty everywhere yesterday.

I suppose it worked out for the better in the end, but considering the above and that you pretty much said, "I'm a nurse. Kslpnow," before attacking him without actually explaining the whole deal (granted he attacked first, but you didn't explain your ability until after the fact)...I think most people would react the same way.

 

[Mana1]

Plus you had voted for me before Zehn, I don't think anyone trusted you at that stage. And you've just healed me, or some such wizardry, so I'm guessing you're not Scum :P all good.

 

[Zehn]

You are quite right, that's why I am not just saying KILL, I'm voicing concern, because don't forget I healed mana, I could have healed anyone to prove myself. I appreciate I was pretty confusing yesterday but now I've got nothing to hide

 

[Foxrally]

I figured that your attack is 20, 'cause 22 is quite the odd number to have. Plus, there's also the unexplained 2 damage on me from that day. From the looks of it, there might be another role that is capable of doing day damage.

I was a regular villager when I attacked GP, so I had 20 hp. The -22 was just a number, so it's probably his actual attack (unless something else happened).

 

[Ullion]

Guys, I think he took 22 damage because of that "random"/"mysterious" 2 damage that several people seem to have suffered during these night phases. I don't see why/how gp would be mistaken when he is confident his damage is 20.

edit: As an additional thought to what I just said, if this mysterious AoE 2 damage is a day action based off someone attacking. It would have to be from someone who declared an attack before gimmepie declared his attack on foxrally.

I do find this theory unlikely, and a more plausible reason is there is some kind of evil poison/bleed role that hits multiple people at night and hurts them during the day for 2?

 

[Spectrum]

First off, its a he :) And second, are you following me to see if I visited someone last night? If so, I didn't visit anyone ^^

That's generally what a lack of report means, but I'm not sure roleblocking has been eliminated as a potential threat just yet.

I'd like to know why you attacked Christos yesterday, with the explanation of a "baseless bandwagon." How was it a bandwagon when nobody else had attacked him? Were you trying to start one?

I'm not totally sure if I consider the people who voted for Zehn as scum though, it seems possible that at least one just wasn't buying his constantly changing and contradicting claims. Still something we might want to look into though.

Am I the only one who townread Zehn's claim? He was making a huge target of himself by sputtering out weird, contradictory information about a protective role, putting himself on everyone's radar. I've never seen scum play like that, and I had the feeling yesterday that scum were trying to push a case against him before he was cleared. Hence why I ended up saying in bolded caps "DO NOT ATTACK ZEHN."

I was a regular villager when I attacked GP, so I had 20 hp. The -22 was just a number, so it's probably his actual attack (unless something else happened).

This doesn't explain why Arsonist only took 6 damage from a 9 attack (get your mind out of the gutter). Either:

a) excess damage beyond what is needed to kill someone isn't counted, and you had more than 20 HP; or
b) excess damage is counted, and Marz only hit Arsonist for 6 damage.

I appreciate you trying to weed out any possible suspicions but I think you're looking at a dead end right now.

I really don't like when people claim that pursuing them for information is a "dead end." Do you not want to be questioned?

 

[Zehn]

You know, I never thanked you for that
If it wasn't too and the few others who chose to wait, I could have died, and I'm still around 2 attacks from being dead
So thanks

 

[faer]

Hi faer, I don't see how those two variables are related.... Both Gimmiepie and I could very well be telling the truth about our attack strength. Which, upon double checking, I can assure you I did tell the truth. I attack for 9.

Even if Foxrally had 18 HP, the fact was that Gimmiepie attacked for 22. This is very commonplace in games. Your enemy has 1 health left, but you hit him hard and do 100 damage. You didn't do 1 damage to kill him, you did the full 100.

I appreciate you trying to weed out any possible suspicions but I think you're looking at a dead end right now.

This doesn't explain why Arsonist only took 6 damage from a 9 attack (get your mind out of the gutter). Either:

a) excess damage beyond what is needed to kill someone isn't counted, and you had more than 20 HP; or
b) excess damage is counted, and Marz only hit Arsonist for 6 damage.

I really don't like when people claim that pursuing them for information is a "dead end." Do you not want to be questioned?

I also do see this relationship. Why would Klippy report back the damage differently? It's very possible that Foxrally was attacked for 22, and it showed 22, even though he had only 18 HP, but then if arsonist was attacked for 9, why would Klippy report only 6 damage done?
There are of course more options
c) Klippy as the GM is being inconstistent. I did however ask him to check the numbers, so I do believe they are correct.
d) Both Fox and marz are lying.

Right now both of you seem suspicious to me.

Edit: it's option c) as Klippy says in the next post

 

[Klippy]

It was Klippy being inconsistent, unfortunately. :/ Several people suggested I alter how damage displayed and I tinkered with it on that attack, displaying only 6 DMG, which is what remained of the HP, versus the whole 9 DMG.

For the sake of honesty, I'll at least reveal that. Because I was getting suggestions, I changed course. I'm sorry for the confusion.

And for the sake of less confusion, I will display attack TOTALS from this point forward. Meaning if someone attacks you for 3 DMG, it will ALWAYS display as -3, even if your HP was less. Once again, sorry. My fault for listening to others and not myself! I'll try to go back and edit, but at this point, it might confuse more.

Apologies again. :(

 

[faer]

Guys, I think he took 22 damage because of that "random"/"mysterious" 2 damage that several people seem to have suffered during these night phases. I don't see why/how gp would be mistaken when he is confident his damage is 20.

edit: As an additional thought to what I just said, if this mysterious AoE 2 damage is a day action based off someone attacking. It would have to be from someone who declared an attack before gimmepie declared his attack on foxrally.

I do find this theory unlikely, and a more plausible reason is there is some kind of evil poison/bleed role that hits multiple people at night and hurts them during the day for 2?

There's been only two attacks before gimmes attack on Fox. That's fox's attack on gp and Absols attack on Arsonist. We can assume Absol was indeed as claimed the Priest, so he would have been a normal villager back than. Pretty fishy...

The unaccounted 2 damage was on Candy first day and on Rozureido second day. Maybe Rozureido and Candy can check whether it could have been some poison/bleed effect caused in the previous night. Did you take damage the night before?

 

[Alex]

I also do see this relationship. Why would Klippy report back the damage differently? It's very possible that Foxrally was attacked for 22, and it showed 22, even though he had only 18 HP, but then if arsonist was attacked for 9, why would Klippy report only 6 damage done?
There are of course more options
c) Klippy as the GM is being inconstistent. I did however ask him to check the numbers, so I do believe they are correct.
d) Both Fox and marz are lying.

Right now both of you seem suspicious to me.

Oh fair enough. I had never noticed that Klippy only marked down Arsonist as taking 6 damage. I see your point now.

I really don't like when people claim that pursuing them for information is a "dead end." Do you not want to be questioned?

Nope, just trying to defend myself. It would be dumb for me to ignore or let slide any accusations that I'm lying. As I had originally interpreted faer's remarks, they didn't seem to make much sense. I politely suggested what he was pursuing was a dead end. But it's clear I didn't have all the information prior to my reply. I take it back.

 

[faer]

Oh fair enough. I had never noticed that Klippy only marked down Arsonist as taking 6 damage. I see your point now.

Nope, just trying to defend myself. It would be dumb for me to ignore or let slide any accusations that I'm lying. As I had originally interpreted faer's remarks, they didn't seem to make much sense. I politely suggested what he was pursuing was a dead end. But it's clear I didn't have all the information prior to my reply. I take it back.

It's the first thing I noticed when reading the around the campfire post. But Klippy did just discharge you >.< So while I'll continue to watch you (as well as everyone else of course), you didn't lie on the attack value.

Zehn, did you use your night action today? Why don't you reveal who it it?

 

[Alex]

I'm genuine. :)

 

[Mana1]

Nobody saw my suggestion :( someone might be PMing a vote in. Would explain how it's so consistent. A day action is another possibility.