News: Famitsu rules out certain Alolan Forms

[Caaethil]

Same happened with Mega Gardevoir. And 'leaks' are dumb and just copy off each other, you shouldn't trust them. I'm honestly a little surprised that people are surprised that Arcanine isn't getting an Alola form.

 

[Kameken]

Now that I think about it, alolan lapras would've been neat. Something without a shell, maybe.

But otherwise I'm not upset about any of these.

 

[Hikamaru]

I'm starting to speculate the rumored Bug/Psychic Alolan Butterfree won't happen either because Butterfree's normal form appears on the PokeFinder official art.

 

[kingdenas]

Ohh :c I really wanted an Water-type doggy :/ I guess Crobat and Lapras won't get one either... I'm starting to get worried that some Pokémon which can possibly have Alola Forms also have Mega Evolution, such as Alakazam or Gengar... which is extremely not fair...

 

[Azyria]

They NEVER said they won't be getting them, plus they would never reveal something like that.. only corocoro would. why do you think nobody is talking about this on twitter and all that

 

[Hikamaru]

It's generally a hint that they won't. If you can encounter a wild Arcanine in its normal form, plus as already shown in a previous trailer, Lapras is already shown in its normal form, why would they get Alola forms? It seems that the Pokemon that are available to obtain in their Alola forms have their normal forms either unavailable in the region itself or very rare to find in the wild.

This is what I believe to be the case. If a Pokemon on the suspect list for possible Alola Forms (which right now is 1st Gen Pokemon) and we see the Pokemon appear in its normal form, we could likely rule out that Pokemon from getting an Alola Form. That means that to get non-Alola Forms of Pokemon with them, we would have to transfer them via Pokemon Bank.

 

[Rivvon]

How does that deconfirm it? We don't know how Alolan forms work as far as game mechanics go. We don't know whether they are counting as separate species when it comes to breeding mechanics, whether a Pokemon can switch in or out of it like a Therian form, or whether it's exclusive to certain evolutionary stages etc. etc. For right now, I'm operating under the assumption that there will be an Alolan Pichu/Pikachu if there is one for Raichu, and they haven't been revealed yet.

I disagree with the idea that just because a regular form shows up, it means that it doesn't have an Alolan form; after all, regular Meowth is seen in the overworld in one of the trailers. Actually, Meowth is an excellent example, we haven't seen Alolan Persian yet but it seems pretty ridiculous that the whole evolutionary line won't get the form. I feel the same way about Pichu, with the examples we've been given so far it seems pretty preposterous to assume that the whole line won't get Alolan forms.

Well the Japanese trailer that revealed Alolan Raichu showed regular Pikachu evolving into it... We've also seen regular Cubone and Exeggcute evolve into Alola forms of their respective evolutions. And I'm not sure if I quite understand you, if we see the regular version it could still get an Alola form? Do you think all these Pokémon listed in Famitsu could likewise still get an Alola form?

I always thought of that Meowth in the player's home as a clear exception; we know the player has moved in from another region, one where Meowth look "normal," so it's just their Meowth from before. It doesn't mean they got the Meowth from Alola. Like in BW where that one NPC from another region had a Pikachu, you could see it in the overworld and talk to it and everything, but in the wild? Nuh-uh, Pikachu, you're not from gen 5.

I get that technically we don't know all there is about Alola forms right now, but considering they're supposed to be "regional variations," I can't image why they would make them any more complicated than the way Shellos/Gastrodon's form differences function.

 

[blue]

Yeah, these Pokemon not receiving an Alolan form isn't really the end the world. I would have liked to see Alolan Growlithe/Arcanine, but eh!

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

And since Wigglytuff was shown in one of the more recent trailers, I guess that means it's also not getting an Alola form, which is a darn shame because Jigglypuff's a secondary mascot to the series.

 

[Lunos]

I just thought about it, but if we've got the case where Non-Alolan Pokemons like Pikachu or Cubone evolves into their evolution's Alolan Form, couldn't we also be getting the opposite? I mean.. nobody ever mentioned an Alolan Persian so far, am I right?

 

[Hikamaru]

I just thought about it, but if we've got the case where Non-Alolan Pokemons like Pikachu or Cubone evolves into their evolution's Alolan Form, couldn't we also be getting the opposite? I mean.. nobody ever mentioned an Alolan Persian so far, am I right?

That would actually be a waste of the pre-evo's Alola Form if you ask me.

 

[Karous]

Well the Japanese trailer that revealed Alolan Raichu showed regular Pikachu evolving into it... We've also seen regular Cubone and Exeggcute evolve into Alola forms of their respective evolutions. And I'm not sure if I quite understand you, if we see the regular version it could still get an Alola form? Do you think all these Pokémon listed in Famitsu could likewise still get an Alola form?

I always thought of that Meowth in the player's home as a clear exception; we know the player has moved in from another region, one where Meowth look "normal," so it's just their Meowth from before. It doesn't mean they got the Meowth from Alola. Like in BW where that one NPC from another region had a Pikachu, you could see it in the overworld and talk to it and everything, but in the wild? Nuh-uh, Pikachu, you're not from gen 5.

I get that technically we don't know all there is about Alola forms right now, but considering they're supposed to be "regional variations," I can't image why they would make them any more complicated than the way Shellos/Gastrodon's form differences function.

Ah, no wonder I missed that....I wish they would just release the same trailers for all regions because it's hard to keep up with all sorts of different sources. :/ Thanks for the info and clarifying your point.

 

[Rivvon]

Ah, no wonder I missed that....I wish they would just release the same trailers for all regions because it's hard to keep up with all sorts of different sources. :/ Thanks for the info and clarifying your point.

It's no problem! They really should make the international and Japanese trailers more similar... the Japanese trailers get a lot more details on pretty much everything compared to the international ones.

 

[kingdenas]

I just thought about it, but if we've got the case where Non-Alolan Pokemons like Pikachu or Cubone evolves into their evolution's Alolan Form, couldn't we also be getting the opposite? I mean.. nobody ever mentioned an Alolan Persian so far, am I right?

Pretty unlikely!You see, an Alola Form is just the same Pokémon, but adapted to Alola's environment. It can have different stats, typings and design, but it's still the same Pokémon, only adapted to another region. What's the reason to an Alola Form Pokémon, in other words, an adapted Pokémon to evolve into their "normal form" instead of their adapted form? It makes no sense, since they're still in the region, so they still need to be adapted... But hey! I also don't understand why does a non-Alola Form Pokémon (such as Pikachu) evolve into an Alola Form Pokémon (eg: Raichu)....

 

[Itcheeee]

Strange Arcanine wouldn't end up getting one, but I can kind of understand not wanting to overdo it. The rest I can't see needing new forms anyway xD

 

[Harmonie]

There are still people who believe that Arcanine could get an Alola form. LOL.

I don't mean to be rude, but I really think it's pretty obvious.

 

[blue]

It's strange that some evolutionary lines have only one Alolan form whilst others have two. Exeggute doesn't have an Alolan form even though it evolves into Exeggutor who gains an Alolan form? I don't really see how that would make sense considering how it evolved from Exeggcute, the Pokemon that was originally native to Alola.

 

[Bobbylicious]

I'm not too upset by this TBH. I don't really care for any of these Pokemon, but in saying that, it would have been cool to see what they would have done th an Alolan Form. Not a fan of the Growlithe line, but a water based form would have been cool.
other than that, I only care about Lapras and Dratini. Lapras was near impossible since we'd seen the PokeRide one (and also because I don't see what else they could do with Lapras), and Dratini is a decent Pokemon family as is so I'm not too bothered by that. I would have liked a typing to get rid of Dragonites x4 ice weakness but oh well.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Wasn't it the Chinese leak that mentioned an Alolan Arcanine? At the very least I remember there being a leak that was largely trusted saying there would be an Alolan Arcanine.

Although I did see somebody mention that it could have been a way to smoke out fakers. Presumably it's happened in the past with leaks (not just Pokemon leaks) that leakers with credible information also include fake information in order to try to confuse and throw off fake leakers.

 

[Caaethil]

It's strange that some evolutionary lines have only one Alolan form whilst others have two. Exeggute doesn't have an Alolan form even though it evolves into Exeggutor who gains an Alolan form? I don't really see how that would make sense considering how it evolved from Exeggcute, the Pokemon that was originally native to Alola.

The story is that Exeggutor's neck grows a lot in the Alola region's sunshine.

Exeggcute doesn't have a neck.