Doctor tWho Mafia (GAME OVER)

[gimmepie]

I'm really not sure if claiming is going to help us that much since there's multiple vanillas but assuming you're telling the truth, I'm the other vanilla.

 

[EC]

It's not because even though The Meddling Monk is on the side of the "mafia", they don't know who he is, and he doesn't know who they are. So theoretically the voting block for the good guys could be 5.

And yes, ties are decided via coin flip.

 

[Trev]

Going to wait til GP explains his vote on Trev. This Trev v Neon Sword exchange reads to me as Trev pre-emptively stirring things to have Neon Sword as an alternative lynch choice for him in case GP has some incriminating evidence, though since GP isn't cop I don't know if there's any evidence GP could have against Trev in the first place lol but I'll wait for GP to speak.

This is essentially old news now that gimme has responded, but just FYI, it wouldn't make sense for me to use Neon as an alternate lynch in the face of incriminating evidence when I could literally just respond to gimme's evidence and vote for him. Also, I was simply responding to Neon's accusation against me, since not doing wouldn't be beneficial to me. Not to mention that there were several inaccuracies in Neon's post.

gimmepie - Town / 3P

I wouldn't clear gimme just yet. If he's mafia, he very easily could have faked being silence to sow discord among the other village members about me.

Then if we win the coin toss, The Doctor needs to skip this night phase and we need to lynch correctly again

The doctor is dead.

So I think it's time to claim, I'm a vanilla townie.

I too am a vanilla townie. So, that's interesting.

So far, my suspicion list stands as thus, in order from most to least.

• Neon Sword, for their highly-defensive reaction and incredibly-inaccurate post in response to my mild suspicion on them.
• Charlie Brown, for hard-clearing gimme without considering the possibility of him faking being silenced and for potentially being the fake townie claim. (Equal with gimme)
• gimmepie, for the possibility that he could have faked being silenced to sow distrust against me and for potentially being the fake townie claim. (Equal with CB)
• Nakuzami, because they've participated the least overall and their only participation thus far was a random vote. It's highly likely they're either a mafia going with the flow or a third party.
• malanaphii, because they've also participated very little overall and their only contribution was to vote with the rest of town against Saws.
• darthspikes, because they too have a very low activity level. However, I'm less suspicious of them after they explained their weird post.
• jdthebud, for slightly fluffy posts. However, he's at least been helping.

 

[Nakuzami]

The doctor is dead.

• Nakuzami, because they've participated the least overall and their only participation thus far was a random vote. It's highly likely they're either a mafia going with the flow or a third party.

in reality i'm just trash and kept forgetting about even being in the game

also he was referring to the Doctor as in literal Doctor Who, not Martha Jones as the doctor role

I've read this current page, going to do some quick catching up to base some more opinions quick

 

[Nakuzami]

also rip did 3/4 town PRs really all die consecutively. trash

but it does look like a 50% chance to lynch maf today so that's something?

I'm just going to consider it as zero third party in this game since both third party roles win with one of the factions, so really there's no reason for them to even be listed as third party in the first place other than to confuse the cop role a little more (which is irrelevant now anyways)

 

[Nakuzami]

In hopes that Nakuzami will side with me if I ever get into trouble, I'll [Vote] Charlie Brown. Nothing against you Charlie.

What

okay I realize this is a moot thing since this post was the main focus of day one but this is literally the first time i'm seeing it and i'm so confused lol

My take on the Darthspike situation is that perhaps dearth knows Naku in real life and Naku perhaps got dearth involved with mafia games therefore he believes that Naku will defend him. I find it hard to believe that he would reveal his scumbuddy in such a way, although that still a possibility.
Another likely possibility is that he's a jester which would explain the post and his silence after the vote, in which case I wouldn't mind if he was lynched rather than a townie. I would like to see how he responds to the pressure. I would also like to see Naku's response.

no darth ain't no Nimsy here

(but yeah no this is a weirdly circumstantial reasoning that's incorrect and wouldn't hold up even if the proposed link was actually the case)

 

[Nakuzami]

Uhhhh... okay. This vote makes no sense considering you were also voting for darth last day phase and said you had a strong town read on me. So. Yeah. Hope you have a good explanation for this when you can talk.

This last sentence is weird in how it's presented and I don't like it. Slightly pinged by this post

Not even a suggestion of the silence; Trev just kind of casually throws that statement out there, and despite the follow up this day phase of "yeah totally I immediately thought you were silenced," it feels like it was more of a slip with that justification thrown on as a bandage


I think I've read everything now but I'm putting some thoughts together atm

 

[gimmepie]

Short version, if there's only two vanilla townies left (pretty sure that's the case, right?). At the very least either Josh or Trev is lying. At least from my perspective since obviously I know my own role.

 

[Neon Sword]

Anyway, I am the corsair and I play rock/paper/scissors with Kitty on N1 and used scissors, N2 I played rock/paper/scissors with Malanphii and used rock, N3 I again played with malanphill and used paper. If they win they get a free vest, if I win nothing happens.

 

[Trev]

This last sentence is weird in how it's presented and I don't like it. Slightly pinged by this post

Not even a suggestion of the silence; Trev just kind of casually throws that statement out there, and despite the follow up this day phase of "yeah totally I immediately thought you were silenced," it feels like it was more of a slip with that justification thrown on as a bandage

Or I read the OP, where it literally says, "Silenced players can only vote," and assumed that gimme was silenced.

Short version, if there's only two vanilla townies left (pretty sure that's the case, right?). At the very least either Josh or Trev is lying. At least from my perspective since obviously I know my own role.

Or, ya know, you or Josh are lying, since I know my own role. :p

 

[malanaphii]

Anyway, I am the corsair and I play rock/paper/scissors with Kitty on N1 and used scissors, N2 I played rock/paper/scissors with Malanphii and used rock, N3 I again played with malanphill and used paper. If they win they get a free vest, if I win nothing happens.

this is false. while i was visited night two, i was not visited night three, leading me to think you could be lying - it'd be quite an easy lie considering kitty's dead and i've been quiet.

 

[gimmepie]

Or, ya know, you or Josh are lying, since I know my own role. :p

"From my perspective"

 

[Nakuzami]

Or I read the OP, where it literally says, "Silenced players can only vote," and assumed that gimme was silenced.

despite the follow up this day phase of "yeah totally I immediately thought you were silenced," it feels like it was more of a slip with that justification thrown on as a bandage

That's not a point you're going to dissuade me from by simply rehashing it

The "logic" stands, but the presentation is what makes it feel off---and presentation matters.

this is false. while i was visited night two, i was not visited night three, leading me to think you could be lying - it'd be quite an easy lie considering kitty's dead and i've been quiet.

Yet you haven't offered a counterclaim, and unless jd or darth come in and claim Corsair, then that leaves Neon as the de facto Corsair . . . so

With you not counter claiming either Corsair or vanilla townie while trying to call a claim out as false, leaves it feeling like you're maf

 

[Trev]

That's not a point you're going to dissuade me from by simply rehashing it

The "logic" stands, but the presentation is what makes it feel off---and presentation matters.

I don't know exactly what you want from me? I knew gimme was silenced/faking being silenced because he only voted, and I knew that only voting without an explanation was an indicator that he was possibly silenced because I read the OP. That is literally the only reason I said that. I'm sorry that you dislike the way I worded it, but that's not my fault nor is it a valid indicator of suspicion.

 

[Charlie Brown]

Coincidence that Trev's three biggest scum suspects are the three people who've claimed? And that he considers people to be imo for not posting?

+1 to what Naku said about malanaphii leaving themselves as mafia by not counter claiming. Not gonna be online for the rest of the day (but will hopefully pop on tomorrow morning before the day phase ends) so gonna drop a vote for malanaphii.

[vote] malanaphii

Also @The Doctor role ($10 it's darthspikes), please make sure you skip the night phase!!!

 

[Nakuzami]

but that's not my fault nor is it a valid indicator of suspicion.

Oh I wholeheartedly disagree

And I don't really want anything else from you on that point. I was merely presenting it to everyone else; there's nothing for you to do for it, other than focus your energy elsewhere and give me other reasons to believe you more innocent than suspect

I would like to see claims from malanaphii, Darth and jd asap though

 

[Trev]

Coincidence that Trev's three biggest scum suspects are the three people who've claimed? And that he considers people to be imo for not posting?

Of course I'm suspicious of you and gimme. You said there are two villagers remaining in the game. I'm one of them. So either you or gimme are lying. Why would I not find your claims incredibly suspicious? As for Neon Sword, if you've been reading the posts, I've said several times that my suspicion on him was for his overt, defensive reaction over a mild suspicion. I was suspicious of him before he ever claimed, so your reasoning doesn't stand.

I don't know in what way you're using "imo" since that stands for "in my opinion," so I ask that you elaborate. I still find the bottom 3 on my list suspicious, but it's very hard to get a read on them when they've barely posted all game. Especially when the active players are displaying some pretty suspicious behavior.

Oh I wholeheartedly disagree

And I don't really want anything else from you on that point. I was merely presenting it to everyone else; there's nothing for you to do for it, other than focus your energy elsewhere and give me other reasons to believe you more innocent than suspect

No, you don't get to just say, "ah here's my accusation and you can't refute it because I refuse to listen!" and expect me to accept those terms. If you want to present an accusation against me, you better be damn prepared to argue it or you can keep it to yourself. I will not let you throw suspicion on me and not respond to it, so you can suck it up and read.

Your logic is horrendously absurd. Let me remind you that your "scumread" here is that I knew gimme was silenced/faking silence in my post, conveniently ignoring the fact that the criteria to determine whether someone has been silenced was visible in the OP from the beginning. And then you're taking issue with is the way in which I worded it, which is ridiculous justification. The way I worded it was me informing gimme that I expected a good justification for his completely random vote considering that it didn't align with his behavior from the previous day. You seem to think it's a "slip," which makes absolutely no sense because I could know if gimme was silenced based on his post that matches the criteria of a silenced player that is written in the OP.

The way you're behaving is ridiculously scummy, and your refusal to listen to someone who has literally been contributing the most discussion to the game only because you don't like the way they talked about something that is public knowledge is incredibly suspicious. If anything, you need to be proving to me that you aren't suspect, because right now you look like a mafia member trying to take down the most active player in a game where other players are incredibly inactive, which would hand mafia the win.

[Unvote]: Neon Sword
[Vote]: Nakuzami

 

[Nakuzami]

No, you don't get to just say, "ah here's my accusation and you can't refute it because I refuse to listen!" and expect me to accept those terms. If you want to present an accusation against me, you better be damn prepared to argue it or you can keep it to yourself. I will not let you throw suspicion on me and not respond to it, so you can suck it up and read.

Your logic is horrendously absurd. Let me remind you that your "scumread" here is that I knew gimme was silenced/faking silence in my post, conveniently ignoring the fact that the criteria to determine whether someone has been silenced was visible in the OP from the beginning. And then you're taking issue with is the way in which I worded it, which is ridiculous justification. The way I worded it was me informing gimme that I expected a good justification for his completely random vote considering that it didn't align with his behavior from the previous day. You seem to think it's a "slip," which makes absolutely no sense because I could know if gimme was silenced based on his post that matches the criteria of a silenced player that is written in the OP.

The way you're behaving is ridiculously scummy, and your refusal to listen to someone who has literally been contributing the most discussion to the game only because you don't like the way they talked about something that is public knowledge is incredibly suspicious. If anything, you need to be proving to me that you aren't suspect, because right now you look like a mafia member trying to take down the most active player in a game where other players are incredibly inactive, which would hand mafia the win.

[Unvote]: Neon Sword
[Vote]: Nakuzami

Oh honey, you're way off base. But keep talking, this is good.

I didn't say that you couldn't refute anything; you already did, your refutation just doesn't matter to me.

And at the time, it was an observation, not an accusation. But either way, I'll say what I want when I please, because there is intent behind every word. And I have read everything, actually.

And there's nothing absurd about what I postured. Conveniently, you either don't understand what I meant, or are trying to deflect it. Don't tell me what my reads are.

Also . . . I don't care about how active you've been? That alone makes you no more townie nor scummy. Not only that, but if I were mafia trying to take down one last townie (as that's all that's needed), it makes zero sense to go after someone that's most likely to pose an issue in lynching them. I also never explicitly scumread you ("slightly pinged" we're my exact words) nor proposed a lynch. But nice try.

Keep your vote where it's at. I'd like to see where it goes.

In the meantime, I'm still waiting for the three I previously mentioned to appear.

 

[jdthebud]

[Vote] Trev
[Unvote] Trev

 

[Neon Sword]

[Vote] Trev
[Unvote] Trev

Another one who has been silenced, vote and invite to confirm you have been silenced, this will make it harder in terms of claims.

I had a feeling that if I chose a mafia player they wouldn't admit that they were chosen, which is great since that means we can find scum who will deny they weren't visited and I think we caught one with Malanaphii who didn't even bother to claim (or counterclaim).

[Lynch]: Malanaphii