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I am mixed with almost everything to be honest. The economy goes both ways for what's good socially and for what people need as a whole.

Being peaceful is almost always the better option, but remaining neutral or indecisive towards clearly negative or harmful issues is bad too. Same for the other end of pushing those sort of negative actions.

As for being civil, I feel the same way. Just enough to get the point across but not too much or too little to where it becomes ineffective

And I am pretty progressive with most thing, but there's always an extreme to anything. Being "too progressive" is bad in the sense of allowing some very out there things to be considered normal, as some things are never normal in many social settings. But that doesn't mean not "normal" is bad. Acceptance helps, but there's a degree of how anything is perceived by the general people.
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Old October 18th, 2018 (2:29 PM). Edited October 18th, 2018 by Ivysaur.
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hmm, i'm not sure i'd ever have considered myself libertarian - i'm all about a strong, central government. :thonk:
Having a strong, central government stay away from people's bedrooms and wombs and ensuring equal civil liberties for all is apparently libertarian in this world of ours.

Which apparently doesn't include collecting taxes and redistributing wealth, that's in another page.
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Old October 19th, 2018 (12:30 AM).
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    hmm, i'm not sure i'd ever have considered myself libertarian - i'm all about a strong, central government. :thonk:
    I think it's just how 8values splits certain answers. I got it too and i'm very pro state
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    Old October 20th, 2018 (6:36 AM). Edited October 20th, 2018 by Resolve.
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      Old October 21st, 2018 (12:53 AM).
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      Old October 21st, 2018 (4:50 AM).
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      Old October 21st, 2018 (5:24 AM). Edited October 21st, 2018 by Ice.
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      Definitely not libertarian in any way. Way more of a socialist. What these tests often confuse is my personal belief in small nations. I have a fundamental distrust of systems but I also see how needed they are for things to function, so my personal compromise is on scale. I don't want a world government, and I definitely don't want as little government as possible. Because there is no system, every system is per definition broken. A small system is more easily amended.
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      Old October 21st, 2018 (6:26 AM).
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      I just wanted to point out that the context which libertarianism looks like it is being used here is purely social. You could theoretically support a socialist economic system yet be characterized as having a libertarian worldview on social issues.

      I have always interpretted libertarianism as fiscally-conservative and to the right of the Republican party in some ways with positions such as eliminating a federal minimum wage or replacing government assistance programs with local ones. Yet, they by in large support many progressive social issues such as marriage equality, a woman's right to choose, legalization of marijuana, secular government. From a social standpoint they overlap with the left-wing. The 2016 libertarian candidate Gary Johnson had a life rating by the ACLU that rivaled Hillary Clinton. I think it may be less confusing to some users to bear in mind the specific way in which the term is being used since this test deals with an economic, civil, societal and diplomatic context.
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        Old October 21st, 2018 (8:04 PM). Edited October 21st, 2018 by MortalPhoenix.
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          I just wanted to point out that the context which libertarianism looks like it is being used here is purely social. You could theoretically support a socialist economic system yet be characterized as having a libertarian worldview on social issues.

          I have always interpretted libertarianism as fiscally-conservative and to the right of the Republican party in some ways with positions such as eliminating a federal minimum wage or replacing government assistance programs with local ones. Yet, they by in large support many progressive social issues such as marriage equality, a woman's right to choose, legalization of marijuana, secular government. From a social standpoint they overlap with the left-wing. The 2016 libertarian candidate Gary Johnson had a life rating by the ACLU that rivaled Hillary Clinton. I think it may be less confusing to some users to bear in mind the specific way in which the term is being used since this test deals with an economic, civil, societal and diplomatic context.
          Honestly, it really depends. Generally speaking, Libertarians believe the free-market will do better than what the Government is currently doing. So even if they support social issues, they might believe that they shouldn't be a law imposing mariage quality, a woman's right to choose, legalization of marijuana, and a secular government (if they support any government at all).

          The underlying problem with political quizs/tests, is that it assumes that because you support certain political policies, you agree with certain principals. For example, arguing that the minimum wage should increased, but assuming you must have more left-leaning views when in fact you are a Conservative arguing from a Conservative viewpoint.
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          Old October 22nd, 2018 (6:41 PM).
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          Honestly, it really depends. Generally speaking, Libertarians believe the free-market will do better than what the Government is currently doing. So even if they support social issues, they might believe that they shouldn't be a law imposing mariage quality, a woman's right to choose, legalization of marijuana, and a secular government (if they support any government at all).



          The underlying problem with political quizs/tests, is that it assumes that because you support certain political policies, you agree with certain principals. For example, arguing that the minimum wage should increased, but assuming you must have more left-leaning views when in fact you are a Conservative arguing from a Conservative viewpoint.
          Oh, I love a good conversation like this one!

          Yes, I do think this is a very skewered test, and it is surprisingly general considering it asked 70 questions. Still, I also think the use of libertarianism/liberty as the opposite end of the civil axis from authoritarianism makes sense, at least as I understand the idealogy. The former is interested in civil liberties and individualism over the obedience to the state.

          It would be conistent with libertarianism to say that the government should not have the authority to make a law banning any religions or literature or preventing people of the same sex or two different races from marrying, because it would intrude on their civil rights. Though yes, in turn they may not make a particular law imposing such a social position on a private enterprise or individual, the idea being this could also potentially compromise freedom of speech and individual rights. Libertarianism seeks to limit the government's control of your private life. Very true, this usually expands into the market also being free to operate with little influence from the government like taxes or tafifs, but the test I think is only concerned with the civil and social sense of libertarianism, not the economic implications.
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          I feel like this test has some questions that really push you in one direction by the way they're worded, so it's not all that fair as I like it to be.

          Either way, I got this. Seems about right after all.
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          Old October 24th, 2018 (9:33 AM). Edited October 24th, 2018 by Pemderp.
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            I got “democratic socialism” (leaning towards the middle but slightly to the left). Since I’ve gotten the same results on other tests, I think this is pretty accurate.
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            Old October 29th, 2018 (7:04 AM). Edited October 29th, 2018 by curiousnathan.
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              Old October 30th, 2018 (7:13 PM). Edited October 30th, 2018 by Alyssandra.
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                Although there were two or three questions where I had no idea what they were talking about, so I marked "Unsure". I doubt the results would have significantly been affected, though.
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