Bard's Vanilla Mafia

Who's Kiyo? said:
God, can nothing be straightforward with reads and the narrative anymore.

Considering the phrasing of NK's investigation results the roleblock/sabotage angle, it's safe to [Unvote] Ullion.

I suppose the only real input I have at this time is that I expected more out of Cat Dog at this stage in the game, considering he's had previous posts that were nice and juicy, but then again I also feel like I haven't been contributing well enough myself after D1 so I'm not about to be a hypocrite.​
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Honestly, I'm in a similar boat. I expect more out of me too! I'd like to say I'll start being more productive, but work is a bit busy at the moment so haven't had the chance to be as active as I'd like. Typing this at the moment in my phone between meetings.

At the very least, I'll [Unvote] Ullion.
 
I don't have a whole lot of time to read back through everything rn so here's some sort of reads from off the top of my head. There's probably stuff I didn't remember but oh well, it's something.

Players who are alive:
NightKrow - cop
Zapmolticuno - I don't even know what to think about Zap any more. He tried to pull off a cop softclaim (or at least I think he did,) and idk why town would do that so...pretty scummy imo. But then it is Zap, lol.
Who's Kiyo? - Fairly confident he's town for his plays on D1. Would have to read back for a more concrete reason than that though.
Aquacorde - loudmouth
Rainbow - who? I think I've only seen them when they can vote and run. Not much to work with here, but hiding in the shadows generally doesn't look good.
Wiicked - Haven't seen much out of the ordinary for Wiicked, but I do like how he questioned what my report said.
Superjolt - The last post he made was kinda meaty, and he tends to make fewer meaty posts rather than lots of...less meaty posts. Scum!Superjolt is generally more quiet than town!Superjolt though, and normally it's quite noticeable.
Mr Cat Dog - The first thing (and only thing atm) that springs to mind is how I didn't like the logic behind his vote for Pecilia on D1, but just because he was wrong doesn't make him scum. Kiyo's got a point though, his more recent posts have been lacking in the meat they previously had.
Ullion - I'd say he reacted well to the, uh...mistaken vote, and is using it as an opportunity to try and find scum. Leaning town for now.

I'm going to [Lynch] Zapmolticuno because I think he looks the most scummy atm.

also we need to kill this vanilla cake otherwise rip cop reports...

Aaaaand now I can go eat food. Yay!
 
While it's on my mind, Nightkrow, do you mind sharing who you checked on n0? Or do you want to keep it a secret for now?

Also, I'm mostly sharing the same reads as you - although I haven't been around the UG in 2+ months or so, as such I have little clue on how much people here act one way or the other. SJ for example I have never seen as mafia before, so I don't know what he's like then. When he's been making posts so far this game, it does seem similar to how I remember him playing previously. Wicked and Kiyo seem fairly consistent from what I remember as well. Rainbow I've never seen play before nor have I seen him post before in this game, which strikes me the most of anyone. Everyone else is a question mark to me XD

I'm going to follow with the [Lynch] Zapmolticuno for two reasons:
1) Was on the initial list I mentioned previously of players I felt haven't done much (yet) and had voted for me quickly (and not taken their vote off me)
2) Self-preservation, really. Sounds selfish, but I'm infinitely more confident in my own innocence than in Zap's - as such I'd rather him get lynched over me and as of now I need someone else to get more votes if I want to even live to see the night phase.

I'm going to state what I have stated before though: if we can come up with more solid points leading to a more-likely mafia-killing lynch, I am down for changing so long as I am back on in time.
 
[Unvote] Ullion [Lynch] Zapmolticuno

Glad we got that sorted out, and also glad that my read wasn't totally wrong.
 
+1 to NK's reads, I share a lot of its sentiments. I do townread Cat Dog more than I trust Rainbow's lurking, if that helps any.

[Lynch] Zapmolticuno for being the most suspect atm for not providing any helpful input throughout the entirety of the game.​
 
I feel like I should point out that this does not prove Ulli inno; it just means NK was unable to investigate. for now though, i'll get on the zap train? [Unvote] Ullion [Lynch] Zapmolticuno he's not been helpful so far
 
@Nightkrow - I like your reads, mine are fairly similar though there are a couple of things I disagree with (there's a few things running through my mind rn) What is your read on MCD though? Also what's your read on me (sorry the wording there is a little confusing)
@Kiyo - What exactly is your read on MCD?

I can go for a Zap lynch [lynch] zapmolticuno

Also if anyone wants to discuss anything before day ends I'll be around the next few hours. More to say probably when I'm not on mobile
 
Yeah, I don't think anyone's gonna get protected from getting killed.
 
Crap, is this a legit claim or an attempt to save himself? Even if we do all change our votes onto someone else (would rainbow be our best bet?) and he is the actual doc... he'll be targeted tonight and can't be protected. :| Nevertheless if he is the doctor, it'd still be more worthwhile to change the lynch target to someone else so we're not guaranteed to lose 2 more townies (Zap from lynch and mafia's kill at night) instead of guaranteed 1 (mafia night kill) and possibly a mafia lynch?

Don't know how much time we have left, and for all I know Zap could be lying just to save his life (can't blame him tbh) but I'd be OK risking changing our votes just incase Zap is doc.
[Unvote] Zapmolticuno
[Lynch] Rainbow
 
@Zap - If you're softing doc now, wtf were you doing softing cop before? I don't buy it.

@Superjolt - My read on you was more of an observation than a read really, as I couldn't remember what you'd done so far this game. I think I remember you being scum once or twice and being much quieter than usual, but now that I've read back I've realised you've been more active than I thought you were. So, I reckon you're town.

As for Cat Dog, I've read back and I think his posts did get noticeably smaller and less frequent with time, but that could be for any number of reasons. I did like how he was open about his reads at the start of the game, even if I didn't agree with them (and he did change his read later, so I guess we ended up agreeing in the end.) I'm thinking town, but not as strong a town read as you or Kiyo.
 
Well, it's up to you to buy it or not, but still, no one is gonna be saved.

Wait, that's irrelevant.
 
Zapmolticuno said:
Yeah, I don't think anyone's gonna get protected from getting killed.
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...are you trying to soft/claim doc here? Why not just come out and say it?
NightKrow said:
@Superjolt - My read on you was more of an observation than a read really, as I couldn't remember what you'd done so far this game. I think I remember you being scum once or twice and being much quieter than usual, but now that I've read back I've realised you've been more active than I thought you were. So, I reckon you're town.
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Oh lol you must be thinking of FF, I was scum in that one and literally didn't start being active until near the end of D3 (but even then I was only slightly active), town was sort of lazy which made it easy to go unnoticed haha
NightKrow said:
As for Cat Dog, I've read back and I think his posts did get noticeably smaller and less frequent with time, but that could be for any number of reasons. I did like how he was open about his reads at the start of the game, even if I didn't agree with them (and he did change his read later, so I guess we ended up agreeing in the end.) I'm thinking town, but not as strong a town read as you or Kiyo.
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Ok, hm, I think you have too many town reads then and I think I read Cat Dog's posts differently though. Agreed about Kiyo-town (one thought did cross my mind about him but chances are just so small so pretty confident he's town)
 
Let's throw a vote to the [Lynch] Rainbow wagon, as they've been even more inactive than I have and there's Zap's 'claim' to deal with. Although it looks like RIP Zap, unless everyone's on at the same time as me.

I should be back to my active posting self for the next day phase; then I'll hopefully be able to get more caught up and engaged. I've missed this!
 
Don't say I didn't, say I didn't warn ya, town only wants death for its savior.
 
Ullion said:
To be honest, my best suggestion is Rainbow... but that's because the scummiest thing out of any of us is his inactivity. :/ We have Anna to somewhat rely on for the most honest reads since we all know she is inno 100%.
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Just keep in mind that we can't mislynch today. I mean if we have nothing else's that's fine, but so far we've got nothing except for white icing on your read.
 
zap pls why u gotta be so sus all the time ;;

lol ulli rely on me for reads all u like but im kinda dumb so yknow. maybe not.

um yeah what do we know? ive heard MCD is usually more insightful, maybe. kiyo has been confused all game and i think thats v strange? maybe kiyo is just off as heck idk. superjolt has been v helpful. rainbow suspiciously vote'n'go. idk what to think about wiicked? and ulli was v calm about pointing out the misinterpretation of yesterdays roleblock. idk if hes normally more defensive or not? like the only reason i would be so calm in that situation is if i was the roleblocker and knew that i had done up NK. but thats me and im not good at mafia so!
 
Ullion said:
To be honest, my best suggestion is Rainbow... but that's because the scummiest thing out of any of us is his inactivity. :/ We have Anna to somewhat rely on for the most honest reads since we all know she is inno 100%.
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Anna's input will be helpful but we shouldn't have to rely 100% on her, we should be coming up with our own thoughts too y'know? Any thoughts besides Rainbow?
Wiicked said:
Anyway, I'm kinda at a loss here. Unless someone has something good, I'm going rogue, cuz these reads have been terrible.
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What are your thoughts? Any thoughts are really helpful at this point
Aquacorde said:
zap pls why u gotta be so sus all the time ;;

lol ulli rely on me for reads all u like but im kinda dumb so yknow. maybe not.

um yeah what do we know? ive heard MCD is usually more insightful, maybe. kiyo has been confused all game and i think thats v strange? maybe kiyo is just off as heck idk. superjolt has been v helpful. rainbow suspiciously vote'n'go. idk what to think about wiicked? and ulli was v calm about pointing out the misinterpretation of yesterdays roleblock. idk if hes normally more defensive or not? like the only reason i would be so calm in that situation is if i was the roleblocker and knew that i had done up NK. but thats me and im not good at mafia so!
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To answer the bold, I can't really remember any games where Ullion was really defensive (except maybe in older games). That's an interesting point about Ullion, but I think it's ultimately null here.

Thinking about going for MCD, I'll explain tomorrow cuz I'm really tired rn
 
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