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Counter that Pokémon!

Zeffy

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    Counter that Pokémon! - Generation 7 Edition

    Information

    With the release of Gen 7, I thought it'd be great to bring back a classic game! Counter that Pokémon is essentially what it says--someone posts a Pokémon, the next person tries to counter the Pokémon, and then the next person tries to counter that Pokémon and so on and so forth! This is a fun way to test your overall game knowledge as well as to learn some of the crafty ways other people tries to counter certain threats.​


    Rules

    • The game requires you to post an appropriate counter to the Pokémon, not just a simple check. Learn the difference between a counter and a check by reading this in-depth explanation from Smogon. Failure to follow this rule will result in your post being called out, so keep this in mind!
    • As mentioned in the previous rule, if the previous poster fails to post a valid counter, you should call them out and post an appropriate counter to what they were countering.
    • Pokébank OU Pokémon and below only, please. Here's the official banlist of SM Pokébank OU. Ubers and above can counter almost anything due to their sheer power.
    • Assume that everything is one-on-one, so don't factor in entry hazard damage or luck-based strategies such as confusion.
    • Do not slash information into your Pokémon's moveset. This completely defeats the purpose of the game since you can't alter your Pokémon's moveset in an actual battle.
    • Try to post your set in a readable format. You can use Pokémon Showdown's export feature to easily create a readable moveset format.

    Useful Resources



    And with that, let's start things off with something simple:

    Counter that Pokémon!

    Celesteela @ Leftovers
    Ability: Beast Boost
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Sassy Nature
    - Leech Seed
    - Protect
    - Heavy Slam
    - Flamethrower​

    This thread has been Moderator Approved™ by aurora. :^)
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Alolan Marowak:
    Counter that Pokémon!

    -Flare Blitz
    -Shadow Bone
    -Bonemerang
    -Will-o-Wisp
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 120 HP//252 Atk/4 Def/132 Spe
    Item: Thick Club
    Ability: Lightning Rod

    Alolan Marowak takes virtually nothing from Celesteela and can either cripple it with Will-o-Wisp or outright KO it with Flare Blitz.
     
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    Zeffy

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    (your EVs are pretty weird. i think you meant to put 252 into attack instead of special attack?)

    Counter that Pokémon!

    Pelipper @Damp Rock
    Ability: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold nature
    - Scald
    - Hurricane
    - U-Turn
    - Roost

    Marowak's STAB moves are a 3HKO at best, while Pelipper can 2HKO with Scald, as well as heal up any damage via Roost. Pelipper also outspeeds even without investments in speed.
     

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    Counter that Pokémon!

    Tapu Koko @ Expert Belt
    Ability: Electric Surge
    EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
    Timid Nature
    -Thunderbolt
    -U-Turn
    -Dazzling Gleam
    -Roost

    Despite getting a new lease on life with Drizzle, Pelipper still loses to anything with an Electric attack
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Alolan Muk:
    Counter that Pokémon!

    -Gunk Shot
    -Knock Off
    -Pursuit
    -Shadow Sneak
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
    Item: Assault Vest
    Ability: Poison Touch

    Muk can't be poisoned and can simply Knock Off Chansey's Eviolite to make it easier to deal with.
     
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    Counter that Pokémon!

    Mudsdale @ Leftovers
    Ability: Stamina
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
    Adamant Nature
    - High Horsepower
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Superpower
     

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    Counter that Pokémon!

    Keldeo @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Justified
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Scald
    - Secret Sword
    - Hydro Pump
    - Hidden Power Ghost
     

    Zeffy

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    Venusaur-Mega @ Venusaurite
    Ability: Overgrow
    EVs: 232 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 20 Spe
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Giga Drain
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Synthesis

    I don't think this needs any explanation.
     

    Frozocrone

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    Crobat @ Black Sludge
    Ability: Infiltrator
    EVs: 248 HP / 48 Def / 212 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Brave Bird
    - U-turn
    - Taunt
    - Roost

    Brave Bird is a 2HKO, Taunt stops Synthesis and MVenasaur can only muster 3HKO on high rolls with recoil and 3 critical hits from Sludge Bomb.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Metagross @ Metagrossite
    Ability: Clear Body -- > Tough Claws
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    - Meteor Mash
    - ThunderPunch
    - Hammer Arm
    - Zen Headbutt
     
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  • Torkoal @ Lefotvers
    Ability: Drought
    EVs: 148 HP / 252 Def / 8 Sp. Atk
    Relaxed Nature
    -Fire Blast
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Rapid Spin
    -Solar Beam

    Megagross can at best 4HKO Torkoal but Overheat OHKOs Megagross. (I'm assuming that Spd is meant to be Speed not Special Defense although this pretty much applies either way).
     
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  • Garchomp @Leftovers
    Ability: Rough Skin
    EVs: 240 HP / 176 Def / 92 Spe
    Impish Nature
    -Earthquake
    -Stealth Rock
    -Dragon Tail
    -Fire Blast

    Even with EVs invested in Def not Sp. Def, Garchomp can tank every attack Heatran has with ease and OHKO it with Earthquake.
     

    Zeffy

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    Counter that Pokémon!

    Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
    Bold Nature
    - Volt Switch
    - Hydro Pump
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Pain Split

    Rotom-W takes virtually nothing from Garchomp whilst Rotom-W can cripple Garchomp with Will-O-Wisp, or 3HKO it with Hydro Pump.
     
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  • Alola-Exeggutor @Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Harvest
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Sp. Atk / 8 Def
    Modest Nature
    -Leaf Storm
    -Draco Meteor
    -Synthesis
    -Power Swap

    It takes 9+ moves for Rotom to KO Exeggutor but the big tree OHKOs with Leaf Storm. You either switch or die basically.
     

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  • Tapu Bulu:
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    -Wood Hammer
    -Horn Leech
    -Megahorn
    -Superpower
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band

    Tapu Bulu is immune to Draco Meteor, resists Leaf Storm, and threatens Exeggutor with an OHKO from Megahorn.
     
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  • Moltres @Life Orb
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 Sp. Atk / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    -Flamethrower
    -Hurricane
    -Hidden Power Grass
    -Roost

    Moltres can survive any of Tapu Bulu's attacks switching in and then outspeed and OHKO it with either Flamethrower or Hurricane.
     

    Zeffy

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    Aerodactyl-Mega @ Aerodactylite
    Ability: Rock Head -> Tough Claws
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Jolly nature
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Wing Attack
    - Roost

    Mega Aerodactyl resists all of Moltres' moves, is able to OHKO with Stone Edge, and is also able to Roost off any damage taken from Moltres.
     
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  • Bronzong @Leftovers
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp. Def
    Sassy Nature
    0 Speed IVs
    -Gyro Ball
    -Earthquake
    -Toxic
    -Trick Room

    Mega-Aerodactyl without Crunch can't touch Bronzong whilst Zong OHKOs with Gyro Ball forcing you out to cripple your next mon with Toxic or set up Trick Room or taking you out. Not the most practical idea since I probably wouldn't know you aren't running Crunch, but the game is Counter that Pokemon not Realism xD
     

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    Charizard-Mega Y @ Charizardite Y
    Ability: Drought
    EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Def
    Timid Nature
    -Fire Blast
    -Solar Beam
    -Focus Blast
    -Roost
     
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  • Dragalge @Choice Specs
    Ability: Adaptability
    EVs: 228 HP / 252 Sp. Atk / 28 Spe
    Modest Nature
    -Draco Meteor
    -Sludge Wave
    -Focus Blast
    -Scald

    Takes practically nothing from Solar Beam or Focus Blast and can survive several Fire Blasts whilst threatening an OHKO from Draco Meteor.
     
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