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  • Magearna @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Soul Heart
    EVs: 200 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD / 48 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Fleur Cannon
    - Flash Cannon
    - Aura Sphere
    - Volt Switch

    Magearna is immune to both of Dragalge's STABs and can survive at least one Focus Blast while threatening an OHKO with Specs-boosted Fleur Cannon.
     

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  • Shedinja @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Wonder Guard
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - X-Scissor
    - Shadow Sneak
    - Protect

    Couldn't think of much else but Wonder Guard makes Shedinja wall Magearna for eternity.
     
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  • Hippowdon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD
    Impish Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock
    - Slack Off
    - Stone Edge

    If Shedinja isn't holding Safety Goggles (and in this case, it isn't), it gets taken out in one turn by Hippowdon's Sandstorm. If it is, then it still has to worry about Stone Edge.
     

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    Jellicent @ Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
    Bold nature
    - Scald
    - Recover
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Taunt

    Jellicent walls Hippowdon, can cripple with Wisp, fish for burns with Scald (and consequently 3HKO), and Taunt to prevent Hippowdown from using Slack Off.
     
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    Magnezone @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Magnet Pull
    EVs: 168 HP / 252 SpA / 88 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Thunderbolt
    - Volt Switch
    - Flash Cannon
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
     

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    Excadrill @ Leftovers
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Iron Head
    - Rapid Spin
    - Toxic

    HP Fire is a 2HKO at best (not even a crit can OHKO). Meanwhile Excadrill outspeeds and OHKO's with Earthquake, ignoring Sturdy if you opt for it through Mold Breaker.
     

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    Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    EVs: 244 HP / 200 SpD / 56 Spe
    Careful nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Knock Off
    - Roost

    gliscor is annoying
     

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    Clefable @ Leftovers
    Ability: Unaware
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
    Bold Nature
    - Calm Mind
    - Moonblast
    - Moonlight
    - Flamethrower

    FU Gliscor (+6 is an OHKO)
     

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    clefable is what's actually annoying

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    Arbok @ Life Orb
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
    Adamant Nature
    -Gunk Shot
    -Coil
    -Earthquake
    -Sucker Punch

    +1 0 SpA Clefable Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Arbok: 113-133 (43.2 - 50.9%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO

    Arbok outspeeds and OHKO's with Gunk Shot if that wasn't obvious
     
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  • Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Iron Head
    - Spikes
    - Roost
    - Whirlwind

     

    faf

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  • Helllo there:
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    Salazzle @ Life Orb
    Ability: Oblivious
    EVs: 252spa/4spd/252spe
    Timid Nature
    -Flamethrower
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Encore
    -Nasty Plot

    Flamethrower has a chance to OHKO whereas Iron Head is only a 5HKO. As a bonus, Salazzle can lock Skarm into either Roost or Spikes if those moves are used.
     

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    Heatran @ Grassium-Z
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Flamethrower
    - Earth Power
    - Taunt
    - Solarbeam

    Yes hello, that is you being unable to touch me
     
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  • Goodra @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Sap Sipper
    EVs: 240 HP / 252 Sp. Atk / 16 Spe
    Modest Nature
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Earthquake

    Goodra can take 7+ Earth Powers or Flamethrowers and is not just immune to Solarbeam/Grass Z-Move by virtue of its ability but gets a powered up Earthquake as a result. It can tank anything you throw at it and then 2HKO with EQ, or if you hit it with a Grass move on the switch, OHKO.
     

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    Megagross can at best 4HKO Torkoal but Overheat OHKOs Megagross. (I'm assuming that Spd is meant to be Speed not Special Defense although this pretty much applies either way).

    SpD = Special Defense

    Spd = Speed

    Writing stuff how it is on the smog stratdex lol.

    Hippowdon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD
    Impish Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Stealth Rock
    - Slack Off
    - Stone Edge

    If Shedinja isn't holding Safety Goggles (and in this case, it isn't), it gets taken out in one turn by Hippowdon's Sandstorm. If it is, then it still has to worry about Stone Edge.

    Landorus -T @ Life Orb
    Ability: Intimidate
    6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, - SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Knock Off
    - Earthquake
    - Smackdown

    Cos gimmick.
     
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  • Manaphy @ Leftovers
    Ability: Hydration
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Tail Glow
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Energy Ball

    It has trouble switching in (Knock Off 2HKOs on a high roll and Earthquake hurts), but once it does, Manaphy can OHKO Landorus with Scald after one round of Life Orb recoil or Ice Beam
     

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  • Manaphy @ Leftovers
    Ability: Hydration
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Tail Glow
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Energy Ball

    It has trouble switching in (Knock Off 2HKOs on a high roll and Earthquake hurts), but once it does, Manaphy can OHKO Landorus with Scald after one round of Life Orb recoil or Ice Beam
    It's not a counter if it can't switch in directly. A counter is only a counter if it can easily take a hit from the opposing Pokemon and acting accordingly

    Anyway:

    Toxapex:
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    -Scald
    -Toxic
    -Haze
    -Recover
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/224 Def/32 SDef
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Regenerator

    Toxapex has the bulk to take Manaphy's attacks and can Haze away its Tail Glow boosts.
     

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    It still works out anyway, Lando can't OHKO Manaphy on the switch and Manaphy outspeeds and kills on the next turn with Ice Beam.

    For Toxapex:

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    Tapu Lele @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Psychic Surge
    EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Def
    Timid Nature
    -Moonblast
    -Psyshock
    -Focus Blast
    -Shadow Ball

    Scald doesn't do a whole lot, and the power of STAB Psychic Terrain boosted Psyshock will break it down faster than it can heal itself.
     

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  • Tapu Lele can actually find itself go to Ubers. Shamelessly stealing the first set because it's Lele.

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    Celesteela @ Leftovers
    Ability: Beast Boost
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Sassy Nature
    - Leech Seed
    - Protect
    - Heavy Slam
    - Flamethrower

    Not much to say here.

    Side note, if you're calling out Manaphy as not a counter you need to provide your own counter to the mon and Toxapex most certainly can't counter Lando xD
     
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    Heatran @ Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Magma Storm
    - Earth Power
    - Taunt
    - Toxic

    If Celesteela does not have Earthquake (and in this case, it doesn't), Heatran can switch in on anything it tries to do, then cripple it with Taunt or 2HKO it with Magma Storm
     
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    Heatran @ Leftovers / Air Balloon / Grassium Z
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Magma Storm
    - Earth Power
    - Taunt
    - Toxic / Solar Beam

    If Celesteela does not have Earthquake (and in this case, it doesn't), Heatran can switch in on anything it tries to do, then cripple it with Taunt or 2HKO it with Magma Storm

    You aren't meant to slash things in since it kind of messes with the game. So I'll just assume the first option for everything. So with that in mind

    Dragonite @ Lum Berry
    Ability: Multiscale
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    -Dragon Dance
    -Outrage
    -Extreme Speed
    -Earthquake

    Dragonite is immune to Earth Power and can tank Magma Storm's for eons. Lum Berry can cure Toxic on the switch if it needs to. Meanwhile EQ OHKO's Heatran.
     
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