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KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Aggron @ Aggronite
    Ability: Rock Head
    EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SpD
    Impish Nature

    - Iron Head
    - Ice Punch
    - Earthquake
    - Toxic

    Aggron can simply spam EQ for the 3HKO, while Reli's EQ does jack shit.
     

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    -Volcarona w/Passho Berry
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Flame Body
    EVs: 96 HP, 252 Sp.Attack, 160 Speed
    Moves: Fiery Dance, Giga Drain, Quiver Dance, Hidden Power Ground

    Avoids the 2HKO from Earthquake:
    0 Atk Mega Aggron Earthquake vs. 96 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 136-161 (40.5 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    And outspeeds and 2HKOs with Fiery Dance:
    252+ SpA Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 252 HP / 240 SpD Filter Mega Aggron: 204-243 (59.3 - 70.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

    rob_thijs

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  • Hopefully one post will bring this back to life.

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    Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
    Nature - Adamant
    Ability - Unnerve
    EV's - 212 Atk / 44 Def / 252 Spe
    - Stone Edge
    - Eathquake
    - Ice Fang
    - Aerial Ace

    252+ SpA Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Aerodactyl: 118-139 (39.2 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    252+ SpA Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Aerodactyl: 93-111 (30.8 - 36.8%) -- 71.9% chance to 3HKO

    212+ Atk Life Orb Aerodactyl Stone Edge vs. 96 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 1097-1300 (327.4 - 388%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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    Rhyperior @ Leftovers
    Ability: Solid Rock
    EVs: 212 HP / 44 Atk / 252 Def
    Adamant Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Ice Punch
    - Fire Punch

    212+ Atk Life Orb Aerodactyl Earthquake vs. 212 HP / 252 Def Solid Rock Rhyperior: 129-152 (30.4 - 35.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

    44+ Atk Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 44 Def Aerodactyl: 438-516 (145.5 - 171.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Hippowdon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold Nature

    - Earthquake
    - Whirlwind
    - Stone Edge
    - Slack Off

    Rhyperior can't 3HKO this thing and Hippo can just Slack Off the damage anyway. Meanwhile Hippo can beat it with repeated EQs or use Whirlwind.
     

    faf

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    @ Leftovers
    Ability: Regenerator
    EVs: 248hp/252def/8spd
    IVs: 30atk/30spa/30spe
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Giga Drain
    - Sleep Powder
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Leech Seed

    Hard countered basically, even with Stone Edge's crit chance (I'm factoring that in due its better chance of landing one) Hippo only 6hko's, normal hits are 8hko's. Tangrowth can safely come in, put it to sleep, set up a Leech Seed and/or 2hko with Giga Drain.
     

    Nah

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    -Magmortar w/Life Orb
    Nature: Mild
    Ability: Vital Spirit
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Attack
    Moves: Fire Blast, Thunderbolt, Earthquake, Hidden Power Grass

    Giga Drain and HP Fire do pitiful damage to Magmortar, and Vital Spirit prevents it from being put to sleep by Sleep Powder. Fire Blast hits Tangrowth like an artillery blast.
     
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    Zweilous @ Eviolite
    Ability: Hustle
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Crunch
    - Dragon Tail
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk

    4 Atk Life Orb Magmortar Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Zweilous: 81-96 (23.2 - 27.5%) -- 72.6% chance to 4HKO

    0 Atk Hustle Zweilous Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Magmortar: 174-205 (59.7 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

    rob_thijs

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  • Behold the birthday cake:

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    Slurpuff @ Sitrus Berry
    Nature - Adamant
    Ability - Unburden
    EV's - 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    - Belly Drum
    - Play Rough
    - Return
    - Substitute

    Can come in and set up a substitute or start off with a Belly Drum right away. I know it doesn't matter but an Unburden +6 Slurpuff is scary.

    4 Atk Hustle Zweilous Crunch vs. 52 HP / 0 Def Slurpuff: 64-76 (20.1 - 23.8%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
    Zweilous Dragon Tail vs. Slurpuff: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time

    +6 252+ Atk Slurpuff Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Zweilous: 1660-1960 (477 - 563.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    Nah

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    Mega Scizor @Scizorite
    Ability: Technician
    Impish Nature
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
    -Bullet Punch
    -U-Turn
    -Swords Dance
    -Knock Off

    This is basically the best that can be done for switching into a +6 Slurpuff:

    +6 252+ Atk Slurpuff Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Scizor: 147-174 (42.7 - 50.5%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO

    4 Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Slurpuff: 210-248 (68.6 - 81%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    And honestly Slurpuff's chance to 2HKO is so low that we'll call that good enough. It's probably not getting back enough HP from Drain Punch to survive 2 Bullet Punches anyway (though since it's likely to be at 75% HP it could be OHKO'd if the rolls go in Scizor's favor).
     

    2Fruit

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    Arcanine @ Helix Fossil
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
    Bold Nature
    - Overheat
    - Morning Sun
    - Solar Beam
    - Sunny Day

    Switches in, setting Scizor's attack back by one. Neither setting up swords dance nor attacking right away allows it to even 2 hit Ko Arcanine, letting the dog launch an overheat to knock it out.
    +1 4 Atk Mega Scizor Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Arcanine: 136-160 (35.4 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    4 SpA Helix Fossil Arcanine Overheat vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Scizor: 564-664 (163.9 - 193%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

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    helix fossil? what?
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    Altaria @ Altarianite
    Ability: Cloud Nine
    Happiness: 0
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Cotton Guard
    - Roost
    - Frustration
    - Dragon Dance

    4 SpA Arcanine Overheat vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Altaria: 49-58 (13.8 - 16.4%) -- possible 7HKO
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    4 SpA Arcanine Solar Beam vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Altaria: 30-36 (8.4 - 10.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever
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    Heatran @ Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire
    EVs: 248 HP / 192 Def / 68 Spe
    Bold Nature
    - Lava Plume
    - Toxic
    - Taunt
    - Protect

    Yay for physically defensive Heatran
     

    2Fruit

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    I'll just assume the normal max attack and speed with jolly.


    Togekiss @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Serene Grace
    EVs: 148 HP / 252 SpA / 108 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Dazzling Gleam
    - Trick
    - Air Slash
    - Soft-Boiled

    If Garchomp uses swords dance when Togekiss switches in, I'm pretty sure Togekiss can trick it's choice scarf onto the chomp to force it to keep using SD. But even if it can't, Togekiss still wins.

    Togekiss is immune to earthquake and dragon claw, forcing Chomp to use fire fang, which is a 3-4HKO at +0 and 2HKO at +1. Togekiss has minimum speed to go before max speed garchomp with choice scarf and enough power to 2hko, and occasionally 1hko's it, further increased in likelyhood by the fact that chomp uses life orb.

    252+ SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 312-368 (87.1 - 102.7%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

    252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Fire Fang vs. 148 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 96-114 (27.5 - 32.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
     
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  • Manectric @Manectricite
    136 HP / 252 SpDef/ 120 Speed
    Calm nature

    -Thunderbolt
    -Literally whatever for the rest three moves

    Worst case scenario it'll eat a Dazzling Gleam in the switch in and lose 50%
    252+ SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 136 HP / 252+ SpD Manectric: 135-159 (42.8 - 50.4%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO

    Next turn it mega evolves and takes some more damage because it's mega speed hasn't taken effect yet, attacks with T-bolt
    252+ SpA Togekiss Dazzling Gleam vs. 136 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Manectric: 114-135 (36.1 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    0 SpA Mega Manectric Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 222-264 (59.5 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Next turn Mega Manetric kills it with T-bolt because it hits 336 with 120 EVs, whereas Togekiss sits at 334 after the scarf with 108 EVs.

    If it were to switch into Air slash, it might flinch on the second turn due to Serene Grace, but Manectric can eat those all day long so it's no problem because from that turn on it will be faster and flinching will be a non issue. If Togekiss gets trapped into Trick or Softboiled it's as good as gone already.
     

    Master Kavar

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  • Swampert @ levtovers
    Evs Attk 252 HP 252 6 sp.def
    Nature Lonely
    surf
    earthquake
    mirror coat
    yawn
    with swamperts ground typing no effect to thunder bolt and earthquake 1 hitko
     
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  • Cacturne @Air Ballon
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Speed
    Adamant nature

    Seed bomb
    Sucker Punch
    Drain Punch
    Destiny Bond

    Immune to both attacks and has no moves mirror coat can work on, can OHKO with seed bomb even if it gets yawned.
     
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    Fletchinder
    Ability: Gale Wings
    EVs: 160 HP / 4 Def / 252 Atk / 92 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Acrobatics
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Swords Dance
    - Roost

    self-explanatory
     

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    Tyrantrum @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Rock Head
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 HP/252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    -Head Smash
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Claw
    -Superpower

    +2 252+ Atk Fletchinder Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyrantrum: 116-137 (37.9 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    252 Atk burned Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 160 HP / 4 Def Fletchinder: 746-882 (244.5 - 289.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    lol
     
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