Fire Emblem Fates Discussion

[Dragon]

So, apparently many people have hacks in this game; they have their units have the Aptitude skill which is only available for Mozu and the children. But eh, that ability is not that much a big deal since it's only a means to max their stats out earlier I suppose, but, maybe this is something you guys should be aware?

 

[machomuu]

So, apparently many people have hacks in this game; they have their units have the Aptitude skill which is only available for Mozu and the children. But eh, that ability is not that much a big deal since it's only a means to max their stats out earlier I suppose, but, maybe this is something you guys should be aware?

That can be a pretty big deal, far moreso than it was in Awakening. I don't know how much it matters in Birthright, but considering that your opportunities to train are severely limited in Conquest (which, so far I'm at 70 hours in, apparently), it's a godsend. Other than Mozu, I have Aptitude on Nyx who, prior to her actually having the skill, was prone to mediocre stat gains and, thanks to where I was in the story, was almost walled off from being able to even take part in the story. Now she's transformed into a slightly self-sufficient glass cannon.

But I wasn't aware that it was only available via save-hacking. Interesting. Speaking of hacks, actually, I've been very really considering getting the Same-Sex patch that's being created for it. Playing a female character in Fates, save for one character (who's already married) I'm pretty much locked to Soleil or bust. With the patch, though, there are a good few choices I could pursue. The problem is, I'm not quite sure how it affects children and online at the moment, both of which I take advantage of currently. Gonna wait a bit, though; not in too big of a rush to get Cassima married off.

 

[Arc]

To add more limelight on the topic of having hacked skills. You can actually be shadowbanned from the online functions, if some of your characters have them, lol. Things like Aptitude is fair game (as it seems so far), but if you have enemy only skills like Inevitable End, Staff Savant, Dragonskin, and Bold Stance. Highly likely that you'll be banned. Having enemy-only weapons (Skadi, Bolverk, 1-2 range Steel weapons, etc.) will also lead to the same result. Having more than the intended amount of animal/special classes (Kitsune, Wolfskin, Nohr Prince/cess, Songstress, etc.) will also get a nice banhammer as well.

That can be a pretty big deal, far moreso than it was in Awakening. I don't know how much it matters in Birthright, but considering that your opportunities to train are severely limited in Conquest (which, so far I'm at 70 hours in, apparently), it's a godsend. Other than Mozu, I have Aptitude on Nyx who, prior to her actually having the skill, was prone to mediocre stat gains and, thanks to where I was in the story, was almost walled off from being able to even take part in the story. Now she's transformed into a slightly self-sufficient glass cannon.

It can also screw you over if you're playing Lunatic mode, lol. Since all level-ups are preset depending on their join seed, having Aptitude will do another re-roll on your potential level-ups, making it different, which can be better or for the worse.

 

[Loriania]

I finally got some DLC- Boo Camp, Ghostly Gold, and Before Awakening. What are some other good ones for Conquest?

 

[Dter ic]

I finally got some DLC- Boo Camp, Ghostly Gold, and Before Awakening. What are some other good ones for Conquest?

Museum melee may be of interest for getting rare items and Beach Brawl for obvious reasons ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

If there are already savegame hacks like those, it won't be long before there will be a full fledged PokSav (FateSav?) tool if you even want a chance of winning online :P

 

[machomuu]

Museum melee may be of interest for getting rare items and Beach Brawl for obvious reasons ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

If there are already savegame hacks like those, it won't be long before there will be a full fledged PokSav (FateSav?) tool if you even want a chance of winning online :P

Well...probably not. See, cheats for Fates have been around for a while, but apart from the competitive scene not being nearly as loud as Pokemon, in more cases than not these cheats are either used for their progression through the game or distributing skills to other players.

Not sure if this is because of the shadow banning, but in my many castle runs I've yet to meet anyone with all 99 stats.

 

[Judge Mandolore Shepard]

Well I did Museum Melee again yesterday to get even more weapons. Two of the weapons I obtained were ones that belong to Jakob and Selena.

As for pairings I have done so far, here they are:
Mandolore (Name of MU)xFelicia
NilesxBeruka
OdinxSelena
BennyxCharlotte
LaslowxPeri
SilasxCamilla
ArthurxEffie


As for pairings I am working on, here they are:
XanderxAzura
KazexNyx

I am thinking of doing the following pairings:
LeoxMozu
KeatonxElise

 

[Loriania]

First file pairings-

F!Corrin x Jakob
Camillia x Silas
Azura x Niles
Nyx x Odin
Beruka x Leo

Not sure whom to pair Xander with.

 

[Dter ic]

Well...probably not. See, cheats for Fates have been around for a while, but apart from the competitive scene not being nearly as loud as Pokemon, in more cases than not these cheats are either used for their progression through the game or distributing skills to other players.

Not sure if this is because of the shadow banning, but in my many castle runs I've yet to meet anyone with all 99 stats.

Well to be fair this is the first fire emblem game to introduce online battling so I believe this is just the start to a new competitive aspect of the game.

First file pairings-
Not sure whom to pair Xander with.

You can pair Xander with Charlotte since she gives good guard stance bonuses, (+5 speed and +3 str iirc) get a blonde Seigbert and have a pretty good supports.

 

[machomuu]

So this is happening:

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2...lusivity_of_fire_emblem_fates_special_edition

I was considering just buying Birthright and Revelation on my Conquest Cart, but I might just import this beauty, instead.

 

[Dusk]

So this is happening:

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2...lusivity_of_fire_emblem_fates_special_edition

I was considering just buying Birthright and Revelation on my Conquest Cart, but I might just import this beauty, instead.

Do you have a European 3DS to play it on though...?

 

[machomuu]

Do you have a European 3DS to play it on though...?

Oh, no. But I hacked my 3DS a good while ago so region isn't really a problem.

Related, I've also considered buying NA Birthright for the novelty of having it physically and downloading BR (DLC Version) through illegit means so that I only need one cart for it, but still legally have both versions. Ethically, it's fine since I'll essentially have bought the game for around $20 more than I would have otherwise. Not sure if my wallet necessarily agrees, though.

And that's also pretty much the reason I bring up the Same-Sex patch which, currently, only supports Special Edition and Birthright...which sucks since I'm the only person on the planet with Conquest, apparently. /sigh And considering I don't use the character who I believe is Soleil's father, my MU's probably going to end up alone by the end before the Conquest version's released.

 

[Arc]

Doing another Birthright Lunatic run just to affirm some suspicions, and use other units for variety. A little musings.

Spoiler:

So, Azama. This guy has a base strength of 9 as a Monk. If he reclasses to an Apothecary, that jumps to 15. If you reclass to Vanguard, it jumps to fucking 19 at Lv. 7. Gaining one level almost assures a strength proc and gets Heavy Blade. Making that strength stat at a grand total of 23 at Lv. 8. Holy shit. He has to deal with E-ranks for a bit, but once he gets out of that rut. HOHOHO. OHKO GALORE. I paired him up with Hinoka to fix that speed and realized GS bonuses for Vanguard are +5 STR and +3 DEF. This is absurd.

Originally, I thought Nyx would be a great unit just giving a quick glance at her bases and growths. Of course, that quickly changed when I put that into practice, leading to my opinion regarding Nyx to be rather unfavourable. Similar situation with Rinkah. Looking solely at the her stats on paper, I said she was bar none one of the worst characters in Birthright (perhaps Fates in general, because she's even worse in Revelations). But, putting it into practice should lead to different results, right? Hell no. This girl has an abominable start; just everything about her comes up short. You fix her SPD? She can double, but she does no damage. You fix her STR? She can't double, and her damage is still the equivalent to a light slap because E-rank Axes; bulk gets sketchy as well. When Sakura has a higher base STR growth than you, we have a serious problem. Not only does she have fake abs, she has fake biceps. Her only virtue is that she starts off as an Oni Savage without the use of reclass.

Setsuna is a lot better than I expected? STR gets a little sketch at times, but tonics and Steel Forges easily fix that problem, AS penalty doesn't really bother her either (75% SPD growth as an Archer, jesus), so victory, victory~. Archers are growing on me. Actually, bows in general are growing on me.

I tried to use Hayato. I really, really tried. Theorycrafting here, he technically should overtake Orochi in the long run with SPD and DEF, making a very bulky mage - something that Birthright enemies have a problem against, bulky 1-2 range really ruins their day - you can go one step ahead of this to reclass him to Oni Chieftain, making him even more ridiculous. Problem is, he does little to contribute at base. Thankfully, he starts out with D-rank, and he hits the less common RES stat. Except, that MAG of his really holds him back. If we raised it by like 2 - 3 points, I think there would be much more incentive to use him (this requires a rebalance for Orochi as well, but eh).

Also, after playing Conquest's paralogues, and experiencing Birthright's again. Kill me now. Like legit. Some of these are just horrid.

 

[Nah]

Beat Conquest Chapter 25 today

Spoiler:

I thought that it'd kinda be a hard chapter given that the previous one was for me, but this was fine even though I had to restart a few times cuz I do dumb things. Not sure why changing the healing tiles to -Avo tiles suddenly made both Corrin and Ryoma do a lot more damage though but oh well.

It's a shame that Ryoma had to die though. Was kinda hoping that they'd pull some absolute bs to save him, but I knew that there wasn't really any way around his death going into the chapter. I kinda get this feeling though that despite Hoshido not being as into mindless slaughter as Garon/Iago/Hans are, that one of the Nohrian siblings will get killed in Birthright, just because. But I guess I'll find out whenever I play Birthright.

At least now I get to the part where I should be giving Garon and Iago a beatdown.

 

[Loriania]

Should I play Birthright or Revelation first? (After finishing Conquest)

 

[Nah]

Should I play Birthright or Revelation first? (After finishing Conquest)

Birthright. I'm like 99.9% sure you're supposed to play both Conquest and Birthright before tackling Revelations.

 

[Arc]

Beat Conquest Chapter 25 today

Spoiler:

I thought that it'd kinda be a hard chapter given that the previous one was for me, but this was fine even though I had to restart a few times cuz I do dumb things.

Spoiler:

Ahahaha... I've never played Hard mode. But, in Lunatic it becomes another beast entirely, if you want to nab the chests and/or if your Corrin isn't up to snuff to go mano a mano with Ryoma. You'll come to find new hatred against ninjas. All because of this ->

<- goddamn skill.

 

[Nah]

Spoiler:

Ahahaha... I've never played Hard mode. But, in Lunatic it becomes another beast entirely, if you want to nab the chests and/or if your Corrin isn't up to snuff to go mano a mano with Ryoma. You'll come to find new hatred against ninjas. All because of this ->

<- goddamn skill.

I already hate fighting ninjas but dear god that skill sounds horrible

 

[Arc]

I already hate fighting ninjas but dear god that skill sounds horrible

It definitely is. Plus, this is in conjunction with Poison Strike and Grisly Wound, making ninja hell even more hell-ish. Pretty much pigeonholes the player to have a Shurikenbreaker user (coughNilesSelenaLaslowNinacough), if you want to save yourself a headache.

 

[Judge Mandolore Shepard]

When I looked at the different skills for that I have for characters, the character that has the most is Odin. Due to the different seals I have used on him, he has no less than six different skills available. The six he has are as follows:
Heartseaker
Malefic Aura
Duelist's Blow
Good Fortune
Locktouch
Strong Riposte