Grandmafia [IT'S OVER]

Nimsy said:
I think I'll go with superjolt too, the "ugh" raised a major flag for me. So I think they're a little more suss than twiggy.
I might just be thinking too far into it though.


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The "ugh" was just me realizing I was dumb for not picking up on Gunner's softing in the first place
Davepetasprite^2 said:
Hmmm Superjolt seeing his other choice (Twiggy) as scum? tbh im finding that a little suss imo

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I would find Twiggy sus right now even if I wasn't the other one up for the chopping block. Really, Twiggy's vote posts have just felt odd, especially the one where he voted Candy. Not to mention him hopping on the Lawli wagon on D1.
Bardothren said:
[Execute] Superjolt it is. I'm inclined to trust Nimsy after he pointed out the Vandal.
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Are you saying I'm sus for what I said about the Vandal in my last post? I was pointing out a detail that seemed important (and no one else had pointed it out).

Anyway I really do have more things to say which I'll get to tomorrow.
 
Superjolt said:
I would find Twiggy sus right now even if I wasn't the other one up for the chopping block. Really, Twiggy's vote posts have just felt odd, especially the one where he voted Candy. Not to mention him hopping on the Lawli wagon on D1.
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That's my way of saying "well, everyone else looks like they're going to be right, so might as well - I don't need to think too much about it."

As for the D1 wagon, well, it's D1.
 
Looking back, now I don't feel as sure about Twiggy. Not that I don't think he's scum still but I think there's others that are also worth looking into. Also Twiggy isn't just rolling over like in ToX so I feel that might be telling.

Anyway, also waiting for a response from Bard.
 
Superjolt said:
The "ugh" was just me realizing I was dumb for not picking up on Gunner's softing in the first place

I would find Twiggy sus right now even if I wasn't the other one up for the chopping block. Really, Twiggy's vote posts have just felt odd, especially the one where he voted Candy. Not to mention him hopping on the Lawli wagon on D1.

Are you saying I'm sus for what I said about the Vandal in my last post? I was pointing out a detail that seemed important (and no one else had pointed it out).

Anyway I really do have more things to say which I'll get to tomorrow.
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I get two out of your three points.
But your reasoning for the "ugh" doesn't fly with me.

I always analyze how people word things, and that "ugh" didn't seem self reflective.
But once again, I may just be thinking too far into it.
This is just a hunch after all.

It seems to me that you're probably gonna be the lynchee, so if you really are innocent a reveal would be in your (and our) best interest.
But that's up to you.
 
Bardothren said:
Oh, you asked me a question. Didn't see it before. Honestly, I'm operating on autopilot right now. Nimsy seems inno and thinks you're bad, so I'll follow suit.

I wish we had more to go on, but sadly, our best source of info just kicked the bucket last night.
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Losing faer was a pretty big blow yeah, but I wouldn't say there's nothing to go on. Just want to bring up something that might be important.

Gonna bring up the Lawli wagon from D1. Given that a wagon was also forming on Ketsu on D1, I think the wagon was probably scum driven. Here's the wagon, dead players colored as per their alignment

Lawlietta: 8 (gimmepie, Bardothren, Ash, Milotic, White Mage, Golgari, PrincePuffin, Twiggy)
And here's the Ketsu wagon
KetsuekiR: 4 (Gio, Juno, Wizard, Kid)

The Lawli wagon was only a couple of votes in when the Ketsu wagon started, so I could see scum getting nervous about losing Ketsu and voting for Lawli instead. Candy was on it so I think that reinforces this slightly. And if we also consider that mafia has some inactive (or just less active) players, then White Mage and PrincePuffin could fit the bill here. I think they're worth looking into. So I'm going to vote [Execute] White Mage for now, I'm going to look into the wagons from D2 and D3 as well

As for the Ketsu wagon, I think the players on this wagon are less likely to be scum because I doubt scum would have wanted to risk losing a teammate so early. That's not to say there couldn't be scum voting for Ketsu here to throw us off (I could see... Wizard maybe?)

Also Bard what are your thoughts on Twiggy?

Nimsy said:
I get two out of your three points.
But your reasoning for the "ugh" doesn't fly with me.

I always analyze how people word things, and that "ugh" didn't seem self reflective.
But once again, I may just be thinking too far into it.
This is just a hunch after all.

It seems to me that you're probably gonna be the lynchee, so if you really are innocent a reveal would be in your (and our) best interest.
But that's up to you.
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Well, I mean I could have added "ugh I'm dumb" but kind of rushed to change my vote... That's not how I meant for my post to come off as at least. But I can see how it could come off that way.

As for role claiming, I'm gonna have to think about it... (yeah I know this sounds weird)
 
Welp, not that I've actually seen her at all this game, but looks like Melody's gonna go boom if she doesn't pass that thing on soon.
Also, after reading back a bit, I am not entirely sure about Gunner's innocence anymore:
Cheshire Cat said:
The elders were closing in. It would've been much cleaner to do away with the girl with a gun, but Gramps was nowhere to be seen.
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Which could just mean she hasn't been giving out guns for whatever reason. She could have been converted, she could have been lying, but that hint didn't seem arbitrarily placed.

I don't think there's a whole lot of time left in this phase, so Superjolt, if you got something that could convince people to vote otherwise, it might be a good time to say it.
 
JD, we've discussed already that the wedding would be a bad idea because that would allow the Bingo Caller to recruit 2 at once (if they haven't already gotten the Gramps or Grandma).

And Juno, Gunner claims to be Vet, not Gramps...

Besides any info that the Cat currently has, we are pretty much in the dark with the Wise Old Man gone and with the Old Maid becoming the Vandal.
(Cat do NOT reveal yet unless you have some substantially good info)

And I don't think anything will be changing the joltwagon before this day phase is over, so to have a vote in [Execute] Superjolt
 
JaDe.X105 said:
And Juno, Gunner claims to be Vet, not Gramps...
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Okay, that makes more sense. :P Thennn I got nothing.
[Execute] Superjolt

The only other thing I can think of that we never cleared up was what Bard is, since he visited the insomniac N0. Could be good, could be bad.
 
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