Rocket's Investigation [Epilogue]

[Salzorrah]

thats just me being stupid, dont hold a ****in grudge jonbymustbang

 

[Bidoof FTW]

I don't trust Bact at all, and the constant attempts to make Weiss and Syn look evil is not helping. He uses 'anti-town' as a justification because they made generalizations of people in the game not playing well. I'd also like to point out that Syn has viewed the thread and not said a single word, which I find quite odd considering he is a very vocal player that would respond to bact's snide and fairly unlogical comment.

Also, since we're talking about recruits, what pokemon move would recruit someone?

Also I can definitely confirm attacking Bact dealt 4 damage to me, and he could still be a Sharpedo, since we don't entirely know that he's a ferrothorn just because of rough skin/iron barbs.

 

[Wicked3DS]

I can't poison anyone. If I get killed as an innocent again...smh.

 

[Nimsy]

We've all been killed at least once being innocent.
And no one's going to just "take your word" for it.

If you keep acting like this, I think you should figure out if mafia is the game for you.

 

[Bidoof FTW]

Can someone make a list of the claims? PLEASE

why don't you do it? ;)

 

[txteclipse]

Looks like someone might have used a one-time heal on desinishon? The heal is pink though instead of green so that's kind of weird.

EDIT: I'll crunch numbers tomorrow and see how much damage he took previously. Pretty sure it was at least 66 though.

 

[Nimsy]

Someone evolved and got a stat boost.
I think.

 

[Bidoof FTW]

I'd like to point out that Syn liked my post, so he IS WATCHING THE THREAD AND READING but hasn't posted?

Maybe someone silenced him? I think that a sleep-inducing move could function as something like that

Silencing someone who's been called anti-town and scum makes for a very easy lynch....

 

[Klippy]

People with FOS's on them: faer, Cheshire Cat, Wiicked, Ice Goddess, Syndrome, Ullion

Just a start.

 

[Bidoof FTW]

Come on Doofy, i thought you knew me. I don't have internet, i tether my phone in my computer. It would take me an hour to look back all of those pages while it would take 5 or 10 minutes to anyone with a decent internet connection.

I had no clue

 

[Candy]

So I think it likely that the pokémon with the poison ability is one of Milotic, Cheshire Cat and txteclipse, who replaced an inactive at the start of Day 3.

I sincerely love the fact that you missed the damn obvious hint on my Pokemon species that I gave out on either Day 3 or 4.

Really tho, I applaud you.

 

[Bidoof FTW]

i'm starting to suspect about Golgari blatant defense towards Weiss and Syn. As he said himself, would be an easy lynch to silence someone who's been called anti-town, but it would also be a good tactic to silence that person and pointing that out, everyone would be reluctanct to lynch said person.

Ah yes, Johnny provides the easy read.

Your complete trust in Bact/Chesire Cat (who is not a confirmed inno tyvm) is very close in relation to your complete trust in your mafia partner Nimsy from R&M. You do not even consider the possibility that Bact is scum but instead provide niche reverse psychology tactics thinking that I would make a play so unnecessarily elaborate just to incriminate a random player. Now you have me thinking that not only do you not know how to mix up your playstyle - or at least make it look like you're thinking in a more rational sense, but also have me thinking that you're scum.

Two can play that niche tactic game. I'm thinking that you are mafia partners with Bact and when the Rockets decided to silence Syndrome you'd have this argument ready so you could incriminate one of the attentive players that called out Syndrome's silence and related it to Bact's dead-set goal on killing Syndrome.

 

[Bidoof FTW]

What I find 'anti-town' about them is not specifically because they threw insults (everyone does, it's mafia) and pointed out possible faults in our reasoning, but because they blatantly distracted the town and drew suspicions. Additionally, they refused to elaborate when pursued, causing more distraction and pointless conversation. This is extremely suspicious imo.

Assuming for a moment that Syn and/or Weiss is a baddie, I'd say Doof was sided with them/him. The reason being they were in fact being extremely and noticeably anti-town, yet Doof still acts like I'm the one being snide and illogical.

Not only did you forget to provide me with a pokemon move that could possibly be used as a recruiting action, but you forget that Weiss has been testing me and providing small tidbits here or there that could potentially incriminate me as mafia if acted upon further, such as commenting about how not sharing my attack stat helps the mafia more than the innos and I was using irrational logic, or attacking me.

In a game with limited HP, each mafia member will want as much HP as possible, making it an extremely risky and bad move to attack another member - especially for as much as 7 damage, which is a considerable amount to hit someone with.

If you knew how I played as mafia, or even tried to understand how I played, then you would know that I never make such dumb risks just to 'look inno'. EDIT: Especially if the plays involve sacrificing me, the only time I ever did such a thing was in Grandmafia, and I did that simply because the game was lacking action and I felt the need to spice it up a bit. Silencing someone who can turn a lynch as well as Syndrome would be a silly play if Syn was mafia.

 

[Nimsy]

 

[Sonata]

jesus just attack each other and get it over with.

as for me I'll [attack] universe

 

[Bidoof FTW]

I'll let Johnny elaborate on why he seems to agree on most everything I say, but for now I'd like to state that I'd never be stupid enough to silence Syn after throwing a blast seed at him and expressing my fos. That is idiotic. If I was planning on silencing Syn, I would've kept quiet and avoided using my blast seed.

Just as idiotic as expecting me to side with someone so obviously if I were mafia?

Now that you mention it, I never would've claimed Ferrothorn in the first place if I was a Rocket. If you haven't noticed, I play quietly as a mafioso, not vocally.

First of all, you didn't even claim Ferro until someone guessed it, so you could very easily not be ferrothorn and be something else like Garchomp or Sharpedo for fear that somehow someone else was one of the other. Second of all, I have noticed, and was one of the first people to publicly express how you play as mafia, so if everyone has your playstyle figured out, why wouldn't you do your best to change it then use it as an excuse to express your innocence? IMO using a different playstyle then saying 'uh but I'm not playing how I did as mafia in this game this game this game' is NOT a good argument at all.

...why would I provide you with a move? It was just an idea that popped into my head. I could've elaborated on it, I guess? It wasn't really relevant what move could've been used at the time, and isn't now.

It is, though. What's the point of even speculating something if you don't elaborate on it? Providing a move could lead us to further discussion and potentially turn a lynch towards Weiss and Syn. I'm trying to figure out if a recruitment is possible, and without a move, there isn't a way it would be possible. Posting an idea then doing nothing with it when asked to elaborate is a classic example of something that shouldn't even be posted, perhaps listen to Weiss next time?

Weiss' sudden anti-town behavior when he was previously rather helpful indicated that he may have been recruited. There isn't more to it. The only thing I have against you is how much you act like Weiss and Syn's behavior was completely normal when it really, really didn't seem like it. You are becoming increasingly hostile and accusatory every time I mention them. What does that mean?

Weiss being rude is completely normal if you've even played a game with him that he's tried in. Look at Gotham, look at GAU, look at Fangirl, and tell me Weiss being rude isn't a trend. The reason there was 'sudden anti-town behavior' is because Weiss usually only brings discussion to the table when accused or when he decides he has enough information to share, and I'm quite sure someone asked someone else to provide their opinion on if Weiss was suss or not. Also, I'm not being hostile, I'm actually disagreeing with something that I truly believe is wrong, sue me for it and I'll have my lawyers ignore you because it's mafia and that's how mafia is played. -3-

Whenever I push the blame onto Syn and Weiss, you push it onto me.

Tell me this, user Chesire Cat. If someone repeatedly accuses someone you think is inno, will you not point your finger of suspicion in their direction?

 

[Bidoof FTW]

I was expecting you to do this :) in your response to bact, you're saying how risky would it be for a mafia to attack one of their own to look innocent, and yet, you seem to forget that i was bandwagoned by both Draskk and KetsuekiR who both turn out to be Rockets. I'm not gonna let you throw the Fos on me. Again, wrong, nimsy and i weren't partners in R&M, i was snowball, a third party role, and she was mafia. I have never said that i trusted Bact, but he seems to be in the same track with me, and i stand still with my position about Weiss and Syn, who you seem to be defending at all costs with excusses like: Andy is a late-gamer, a good player, but no strong points about their innocence, even when they have done nothing but being totally anti-town like Bact said, and distracting us with ambiguous responses, reluctanct to cooperate with the town.

You're right, I was thinking of why Nimsy said that she started agreeing with you and being active and for some reason it made me think you were her mafia partner, my bad :P

Also, you don't need to blatantly say you trust someone in order to show that you're agreeing with them and not thinking suspiciously of them. My strong points about their innocence is that I know how to read players. Lynch both if you want, I invited you to do so last phase. Just know that when "Syndrome is an explorer" and "Ice Goddess is an explorer" pop up, I'll be there saying I told you so.

Did I ever mention how the phrase anti-town is annoying and doesn't make sense at all? You're obviously not calling them scum but the way it's worded and used makes it sound like you're trying to lynch a town member simply because they aren't being productive.

 

[Sopheria]

I think we've had that Michael Jackson popcorn gif posted 3 times so far. Gosh what a game it has been.

I'm just going to roll with Nimsy's reasoning here and [attack] Wiicked. I'm still poisoned too, so there's also that ;w;

 

[Klippy]

So basically the scenario we have here is Golgari/Syndrome/Ice Goddess vs. Cheshire Cat/JohnnyMustang, in a sense.

Why don't we just kill them all and let Arceus sort 'em out? Joking, but there's some clear lines getting drawn among these guys. Syn and Weiss have not spoken this phase, either meaning silenced or a plot. Not sure really though. Could go either way.

 

[Bidoof FTW]

I don't think Weiss is online, so we can't really assume he's been silenced or anything of the sort yet. Syn however, is probably silenced.