Supporter Mafia Season Three: The Rebellion

gimmepie said:
I was of the opinion that T3 didn't count any differently in voting aside from pseudo-immunity.
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Yeah, I just read the OP again, and higher tiers don't have more voting power. I also counted the tiers.

Tier 1 consists of 4 people
Tier 2 consists of 10 people
Tier 3 consists of 15 people

tier 1's are literally unkillable during the day. If a rogue were to be in the first tier, then there would be only one person (Or two, depending on the secret role) that could take that rogue down. Gunner's role description makes it sound like people can only rank up one tier at the time, which means that a potential rogue in tier 2 could be very scary, because if they rank up overnight, they become almost unkillable for us. I'm not tier 2, but if I were, I would go with Klippy's feeling.
 
MorallyIncorrect said:
Yeah, I just read the OP again, and higher tiers don't have more voting power. I also counted the tiers.

Tier 1 consists of 4 people
Tier 2 consists of 10 people
Tier 3 consists of 15 people

tier 1's are literally unkillable during the day. If a rogue were to be in the first tier, then there would be only one person (Or two, depending on the secret role) that could take that rogue down. Gunner's role description makes it sound like people can only rank up one tier at the time, which means that a potential rogue in tier 2 could be very scary, because if they rank up overnight, they become almost unkillable for us. I'm not tier 2, but if I were, I would go with Klippy's feeling.
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Klippy does tend to be right, hence I was pretty quick to agree with him.
However we can't really do anything about it so I'm pretty much stabbing at the person who I feel is the most suss now (besides you were on my RNG anyway lol).

It doesn't really change anything because Kokoro is screwed it seems.
 
I hate the first day, too much uncertainty
 
Eros said:
I'm still........................... About this whole thing, basically we have a Juno or Kokoro situation right now. And we have no lead.

[EXECUTE] Kokoro, however. I can't decide but you just said you'd accept it :/ eh, this is so shit
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Don't balme me, IIIIIII voted for MI.
If you get that reference I applaud you.
 
Spoiler:


Pheonix Ceptio: Ace Attorney in "Turnabout: The Mafia I"​

OBJECTION! HOLD YOUR EXECUTIONS!​

I refuse to kill Kokoro!

*Crowd Gasps.*

She is innocent and RNG or not, we are not so barbaric as to kill an innocent are we?

My theory is pure conjecture, but it offers more sense than any of your senseless violence.

*Taps paper.*

Using the RNG is giving the rogues a free kill, first night or no some tact should be given and murdering an innocent in a children's game of drawing straws is pointless. Start as you mean to continue is what I believe... and there's no way I'm playing into some RNG nonsense from the get go. If I can give any thought and proof to this case then I will!

*Slams table.*

If Kokoro was a rogue... she wouldn't accept her death now would she?!

Now now, I know what you'll say. An early sacrifice might lull us into a false sense of security right?

I disagree.

The rogues are out to win this in the end and, jovial funtime or no, it is a tactically poor decision for them to sacrifice one of their own presumably limited numbers this early!

But maybe, you say, since she has the highest amount of votes that she has accepted her faith as a scapegoat for her team?

HOLD IT!

I doubt that Kokoro's fellow team mates would stand for this, and yet nobody has said a word! Look how not a single person jumps to defend Kokoro?! The rogues don't care if this person dies, clearly, because they are NOT one of them!

Kokoro is an innocent willing to accept her death because she sees no other escape, no rogues (or practically anybody really) are interfering because this is exactly what they want!

Kokoro is more likely than not just an innocent loyalist! TAKE THAT!

I urge you all to please take a stand and believe me. Do not kill someone when the only evidence we have, theoretical or no, points to said individuals innocence.

To you, Kokoro, I have done my best with what I have to save you. Hopefully my faith in you is not misplaced and you might live through this day.

*Crowd murmurs.*

*Taps Paper*

In terms of prosecution...

I'll go with the only slight indication I have of anything, Gimme's pointing out of the flaw in MI's words / the perhaps over-analysis of such. I apologize MI, but logic and justice must be followed here.

Even though I believe you to be innocent, this is the only minor lead we have and so I must go along with it for now. There is nothing else for it.

[EXCECUTE] MorallyIncorrect
 
I just wanna point out that Juno said she was interested in self-preservation, not her innocence. Also killing MorallyIncorrect would be so mean since he dies first all the time.
 
Klippy said:
I just wanna point out that Juno said she was interested in self-preservation, not her innocence. Also killing MorallyIncorrect would be so mean since he dies first all the time.
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*Pushes up sunglasses.*

I'm afraid the law has no bias. We have to go with the most information we have and use it as our weapon. I don't want to accuse MI either, but he is the only one with ANY reason AT ALL. To be voted for.

I must, as an Ace Attorney, choose the most just and lawful answer I can find. Mean or no. That is what it means to seek the truth.

Arx said:
Sorry MI, but the little bit of lead we got points at you and I think the RNG method is flawed anyway :p
Sooo [EXECUTE] MorallyIncorrect
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Precisely this. I don't like doing it...

But we have to go with what we have. It's even meaner to kill a potential innocent because we feel like we're being a "little mean" in choosing MI!

I have been told we can change votes? If not ignore this and do not hesitate to correct me.

But my prodigy and student F. Fox Sakerally, professional paper tapper is surely aware that his judgment was flawed in the beginning after my testimony. I have faith in you Foxy, to see the light of justice like I've taught you to all of these years.
 
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Deceptio said:
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I, Morally Edgeworth, would like to defend myself. Mostly because it's fun to talk like this.

I, too, say that Kokoro is innocent. The reason she accepts her faith is because it is a random vote, and there is no way of talking yourself out of such a situation, because it's a claim for your life made without a basis. There is no defending, because the accusation is empty.

*Slams Table*

The only leads we have at the moment is an alleged slip of words by me, Morally Edgeworth, and the claim that Klippy has information others don't have. The claim of Gimmepie is based on the fact that I said we kill tonight, which was a clear reference to an earlier statement the witness gave, in reference to a vigilant role. My statement wouldn't even make sense were I to be a rogue, as that would refer to killing someone that was alligned with the rogues, after killing an innocent.

*Pushes up glasses*

I'm also putting forward that while Gimmepie's claim is based on a choice of words, the accusation of Klippy is made with so said evidence. This evidence may lack, but going after Juno may provide some insight in the role of Klippy. If Juno turns out to be a rogue, Klippy's nature as trustworthy will be set, but if she turns out to be an innocent, we automatically proof him to be a rogue. I believe Klippy's statement to be true, because no well thinking mafia player would gamble their survival this early in the game. I, as a man of the law, believe claims of evidence more thrustworthy than basing it on a simple miscommunication in words. Choosing to follow Klippy's instincts would give us information useable even after this day has past.

*Dances on Desk*
I also want to live longer then one day for once :p
 
MorallyIncorrect said:
I, Morally Edgeworth, would like to defend myself. Mostly because it's fun to talk like this.

I, too, say that Kokoro is innocent. The reason she accepts her faith is because it is a random vote, and there is no way of talking yourself out of such a situation, because it's a claim for your life made without a basis. There is no defending, because the accusation is empty.

*Slams Table*

The only leads we have at the moment is an alleged slip of words by me, Morally Edgeworth, and the claim that Klippy has information others don't have. The claim of Gimmepie is based on the fact that I said we kill tonight, which was a clear reference to an earlier statement the witness gave, in reference to a vigilant role. My statement wouldn't even make sense were I to be a rogue, as that would refer to killing someone that was alligned with the rogues, after killing an innocent.

*Pushes up glasses*

I'm also putting forward that while Gimmepie's claim is based on a choice of words, the accusation of Klippy is made with so said evidence. This evidence may lack, but going after Juno may provide some insight in the role of Klippy. If Juno turns out to be a rogue, Klippy's nature as trustworthy will be set, but if she turns out to be an innocent, we automatically proof him to be a rogue. I believe Klippy's statement to be true, because no well thinking mafia player would gamble their survival this early in the game. I, as a man of the law, believe claims of evidence more thrustworthy than basing it on a simple miscommunication in words. Choosing to follow Klippy's instincts would give us information useable even after this day has past.

*Dances on Desk*
I also want to live longer then one day for once :p
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Honestly, I jumped the gun listening to Klippy.
There's no way he could have any information right now on Day One, and he doesn't seem to be able to confirm anything. I've given a lot more grounds than he has.

Besides that last part is reason enough ;)
 
gimmepie said:
Honestly, I jumped the gun listening to Klippy.
There's no way he could have any information right now on Day One, and he doesn't seem to be able to confirm anything. I've given a lot more grounds than he has.

Besides that last part is reason enough ;)
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As I said, following up on Klippy's lead may give us information, which yours doesn't. Yours is based on my words, and when I die, you don't have to explain as to why you got an innocent lynched, while Klippy does have to stand for his claims if he does. This gives us information about Klippy as well. I think it's the smarter option for that matter.
 
MorallyIncorrect said:
As I said, following up on Klippy's lead may give us information, which yours doesn't. Yours is based on my words, and when I die, you don't have to explain as to why you got an innocent lynched, while Klippy does have to stand for his claims if he does. This gives us information about Klippy as well. I think it's the smarter option for that matter.
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If you die and turn out to be innocent, I'll probably be the first person they come after lol.
Which is fair enough.
 
gimmepie said:
If you die and turn out to be innocent, I'll probably be the first person they come after lol.
Which is fair enough.
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But there is no need too for them to go after you, while there is very clearly something going on with Klippy. He has made role claims, which are more important to proof. And there is clearly something going on there, because otherwise he wouldn't go for such a half-assed reveal. I'd like him to weigh in on it though.
 
my fellow angel does argue a convincing case
not really but he might have a role but it would be odd to state that day one and we don't have the numbers to kill Juno anyways I guess

EXECUTE Juno

and it just occurred to me that MorallyIncorrect is a supporter now and is here. hey!

and I totally didn't fall asleep on this page an hour ago while figuring out my vote

Juno said:
You think D:
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sorry hun, my brain is strange and can't be trusted!
 
I didn't want to say anything more because the last time I tried to get people to see reason about Klippy I got lynched hard, but yeah, honestly he's been wrong a lot more than he has been right? He's just really good at getting people to listen to him.

He started the lynch Archer and Juno bandwagons in season 2, both of us were innocent. He also pretended to be detective in that game too, even though he wasn't.

Faes & Daes he was wrong about Gunner (and to be fair, she was very confusing in that game) and gimmepie (didn't die, but Klippy still tried to get people to vote for him and was wrong about his alliance). And to his credit he did get Sphealo rightfully burned, but that's still a lot of innocents he's killed/tried to kill and was wrong about.

Do what you want, but I'd take his words with a grain of salt. Just because he sounds convincing and writes a lot in his posts doesn't necessarily make him right.

Nakuzami said:
sorry hun, my brain is strange and can't be trusted!
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I understand :c
 
Em, sorry to interrupt, but Attorney RallyForFoxSake Edgeworth, signing in.

I agree with what my fellow lawman Phoenixceptio has said, but to an extent. He stated himself that what he mentioned was mere conjecture. I am here with concrete evidence, scientifically, magically, spiritually and blarzigordally confirmed.

You say MorallyIncorrect is a rogue. However, consider this. There are two double letters in his name, L and R. Both these letter are featured in the word 'Terrifically'. These double letters also add up to four. Now, the word 'terrific' has similar roots to the word 'terrifying'. DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS TERRIFYING?

That's right. Attorneys.

Now back to the word 'four' we found earlier. In Estonian, four is pronounced "Neli". Do you know who Nelly is? This is Nelly.

[PokeCommunity.com] Supporter Mafia Season Three: The Rebellion

As the court can see, this 'Nelly' has two crucial things we need in this case. First, he has a double L in his name, which MorallyIncorrect also does. Second of all, he most clearly has $wag. I know from personal experience attorneys other than my $waggy self devoid of $wag. Why is that? Because my client has robbed all of them of it. It clearly be seen by the previous un$waggy accusations. However....

THERE IS ONE THING THE COURT HAS NOT CONSIDERED, WHILE IT WAS IN FRONT OF YOUR VERY EYES!

According to his song, 'Dilemma', 'Nelly' own a town, called 'Nellyville'. This relates directly to none other than THE PROSECUTOR HIMSELF PHOENIX CEPTIO! We are currently in a dilemma about who to vote for - but Phoenix Ceptio chooses to COMPLETELY avoid this path, and focus on my client instead using baseless self-denounced conjecture and still use it against my client! In addition to this, Deceptio is trying to make himself feel at home, as if it were his hoemetown! Or should I say... Nellyville.

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And from this I conclude that GP is a rogue and that since I came up with the RNG idea I'm bound to vote for the person that is ended up with.

Also, protip from an ace attorney to all ye mafia player children: if you're fun, you probably won't be killed :P So be fun kids, ayyy
 
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