Supporter Mafia Season Three: The Rebellion

[countryemo]

Deceptio. Or GreenFlame, glad his name didn't come up yet so he can keep rouge-ing up the place.

 

[Foxrally]

So far, I think the only two people who really can have fingers pointed at them are myself/everyone who used the RNG method and Deceptio. Aside from that, everyhting is speculation. Also...

If I survive the night, I can reveal why I know what I know.

 

[Alexander Nicholi]

MRW I got promoted to T3

I'm still suspicious of Deceptio for how defensive he got of Juno. And Juno was a Rogue, so I feel like Deceptio might be the next best option.

Things are not always what they seem, dear archangel. I postulate it to be an elaborate ruse, a smelling salt. I say Deceptio defended Juno to appear as a rogue so you'd think just that - but is he actually? He wouldn't be so obvious, would he?

 

[Omicron]

Why would you even want to pass as a rogue?

 

[Alexander Nicholi]

Why would you even want to pass as a rogue?

Double reverse psychology.

 

[Jay]

Phoenix Ceptio: Ace Attorney in "Turnabout: The Mafia II"

*Enters the room once more.*​

Are we really going with blind accusations again? I learned my lesson last time but it seems I might be the only one.

On what ground do you REALLY have to accuse me on? I "defended" Juno? I didn't defend her at all. I more attacked Klippy because I was not in full understanding of the rules, a fault on my part yes but it hardly makes me worth accusing of a rogue's position.

Let's look over things one more time shall we? Those willing to throw down accusations without any excuse of misinformation (like I myself have) or actual, solid proof? I'd ask you to follow along closely. Don't want you to miss any conjecture of defense to fight against your conjecture of accusation.

Upon my first interjection into the court room my original and primary focus was the defense of KOKORO, not of anybody else. A large majority of the people in this room wanted to do something as foolish as vote by numbers. Regardless of any other proof I felt that this was a very wrong and foolish decision that would lead to the death of an innocent... and as we all know, if interventions had not been made? Then this surely would have been the case.

So... answer me this.

If I really was a rogue... why would I want the attention of the lynching turned away from someone that was clearly innocent?! Would it not benefit me a lot more to let her die when there was a significant chance that Juno could be lynched instead if the attention was drawn away from Kokoro herself?

I only swapped my attention to the accusation of Klippy or Diddy Kong, or whatever when I made a mistake involving the rules and got carried away with the case! Again, this mishap was my fault entirely... but it in NO way removes the fact that I was desperate to have an innocent removed from being suspected and lynched!

If I really was a rogue then I'd automatically know that she was an innocent... thus removing any logical and strategic benefit in defending her! That shows that I am in fact, an innocent myself, as I defended her so fervently... and whether you all want to admit it or not... it was that defense that helped to crumble the RNG methods integrity... and that defense...

THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE EVENTUAL LYNCHING OF JUNO HERSELF! TAKE THAT!

I think this reasoning of mine should be seen as a lot more solid than. "Oh he was helping Juno, he's clearly a rogue, kill him, huehuehue." I have provided a solid case for myself here based solely on what has happened so far.

If you all still decide to kill me, then you'll be making a huge mistake. Just giving the Rogue's another loyalist death under their belts.

So no... I'm not the only lead you have at all as I'm not really a lead. I'm just the easy way out in your eyes, so you're not thinking the situation through properly at all. Think things through and actually plan out an accusation. Otherwise you'll continue to be picked off by the rogues and each other until we all sprawl on the floor as defeated corpses.

If you really want to kill me after all this? Go right ahead. I want you to even. Go ahead and prove me right.

Actually, my colleague is right, I'd like to hear a statement depicting the actual events that took place that lead to you obtaining this knowledge also, Klippy. I've no doubt you're on our side now. But I AM curious nonetheless.

 

[Ice1]

-snip-

But... you didn't just say Kokoro is innocent, you claimed Juno was innocent too, and tried to get my lynched for actually being willing to listen to Klippy. The fact that you defended Kokoro is only a sideshow, because what you did was push attention away from Juno, and towards me. You weren't just defending Kokoro, you were actively pushing the blame onto someone else, away from someone we had an actual, albeit a very shakey, lead on. It also wasn't your defense that crumbled the RNG method, but the general badness of that system. A lot of us argued against it. The truth is, everyone knew Kokoro couldn't defend herself, and she was only going to be lynched because of the RNG, and then a lead came in. A lead you chose to ignore and focus your attention on a shakier one, choosing to ignore any evidence against Juno, and going as far as calling her innocent already... You're defense doesn't hold up.

On another note, what the hell are you even saying Inyotef?

 

[Jay]

But... you didn't just say Kokoro is innocent, you claimed Juno was innocent too, and tried to get my lynched for actually being willing to listen to Klippy. The fact that you defended Kokoro is only a sideshow, because what you did was push attention away from Juno, and towards me. You weren't just defending Kokoro, you were actively pushing the blame onto someone else, away from someone we had an actual, albeit a very shakey, lead on. It also wasn't your defense that crumbled the RNG method, but the general badness of that system. A lot of us argued against it. The truth is, everyone knew Kokoro couldn't defend herself, and she was only going to be lynched because of the RNG, and then a lead came in. A lead you chose to ignore and focus your attention on a shakier one, choosing to ignore any evidence against Juno, and going as far as calling her innocent already... You're defense doesn't hold up.

On another note, what the hell are you even saying Inyotef?

*Shakes his head gently.*

I've discussed why I argued against Klippy as being a mistake in rules on my part. Indirectly by doing this I made the claim that Juno was innocent. Which yes, was my own doing.

My defense didn't crumble the RNG system alone, but it was intended to contribute to that end so all points involving that stance are still very much in effect.

I didn't trust Klippy because of my misunderstanding about night actions. While the OOC mentions night actions briefly it in no way explains what night actions there are nor what they can do.

It was easy for all of you to say "it was a night action" when YOU are all aware of what they are whereas a new player like me has ZERO sources on this thread to give me information about such. To be honest it's rather difficult for new players to access all the rules used here in this game of life and death. I was just working with the best of the information I had and if you really want to try and blame me for that then go right ahead.

As for shifting the blame onto you that was for the sake of credibility. I couldn't just claim that Kokoro was innocent without an alternative. I knew it wasn't Kokoro, due to it being hard to understand the rules of the game I didn't trust Klippy.

Therefore, I went with the only other option available to me. Gimmepie had accused YOU because of your wording. You were the only other option and while I was CERTAIN that Kokoro was innocent and as I had been WITHOUT the required information to know that Klippy was telling the truth... you had no real defense, no solid proof apart from a text slip-up, but nothing there to say you weren't guilty.

So yes, naturally I accused you. That was the only smart option in that situation. It was a chance at catching a rogue versus the murder of a certain loyalist in my perception. I took the only logical option a loyalist could and should take in that situation.

But once again... please if you're so very sure of yourselves. Kill me.

Go on, execute me.

I'll die, be the loyalist I know I am and laugh at you from beyond the grave as the rest of you are slaughtered.

In fact, to SHOW you how confident I am about my innocence.

[EXECUTE] Deceptio

Come on MI... the rest of you too.

Kill me.

 

[Sopheria]

So, here are my thoughts...

Personally, I think the mafia was trying to set up Kokoro to get lynched. I think they manipulated the RNG results in order to get a loyal green killed (easy for them to do since they know who's innocent and who isn't, but the loyalists don't). Then when it didn't work and we killed one of theirs, they went ahead and killed Kokoro in retaliation.

So, I think we should look at who had Kokoro in their R (?) NG results. Chances are several of them are rogues:

Flushed
Nakuzami
White Mage
Sopheria
JayD
FoxRally
Inyotef
gimmepie
apocalypseArisen

 

[GreenFlame]

I'm pleased my name had not come up because I don't want to be targeted for nothing. I really haven't been doing much this game because

a) the walls of text which I am too lazy to read
b) I don't know what's going on, there's too many attorneys
c) I'm too busy drinking hot chocolate
d) I really can't do much execept vote each day
e) Klippy's Angels hasn't been made yet, and I am on strike by not doing much

 

[Jay]

So, here are my thoughts...

Personally, I think the mafia was trying to set up Kokoro to get lynched. I think they manipulated the RNG results in order to get a loyal green killed (easy for them to do since they know who's innocent and who isn't, but the loyalists don't). Then when it didn't work and we killed one of theirs, they went ahead and killed Kokoro in retaliation.

So, I think we should look at who had Kokoro in their R (?) NG results. Chances are several of them are rogues:

Flushed
Nakuzami
White Mage
Sopheria
JayD
FoxRally
Inyotef
gimmepie
apocalypseArisen

I think this is a good idea. It will give us a base line of questioning and investigation right from the get go. It's about as good a lead as we have right now anyway.

Hmm... that makes me wonder after some things though. Looking at this list and considering past accusations and involved parties.

 

[GreenFlame]

It could be an elaborate scheme of the Rogue's that Sopheria is running, though. Always be wary, take everything with a grain of salt.

 

[Sopheria]

Also relevant, all the people who voted to murder Kokoro (like Deceptio said though, this isn't an accusatory list or anything, it's just a good place to start investigating):

Foxrally
apocalypseArisen
eros

Worth noting is that quite a few people initially voted to murder Kokoro but then changed their votes after Juno became the main target.

 

[Alexander Nicholi]

Worth noting is that quite a few people initially voted to murder Kokoro but then changed their votes after Juno became the main target.

To be honest, I originally voted for Juno because I was against RNGing Kokoro for the RNG, and found lynching MorallyIncorrect rather illogical and lame. Klippy's words sealed the deal for me.

On another note, what the hell are you even saying Inyotef?

 

[Ice1]

Also relevant, all the people who voted to murder Kokoro (like Deceptio said though, this isn't an accusatory list or anything, it's just a good place to start investigating):

Foxrally
apocalypseArisen
eros

Worth noting is that quite a few people initially voted to murder Kokoro but then changed their votes after Juno became the main target.

So I decided to look at the tierlist. Juno was Tier 2, so not everyone could vote for her. Foxrally is Tier 1, so he couldn't vote for Juno. apocalypseArisen is tier 1 too, so that goes up for him too. eros is tier 2 though.

DEAN WINCHESTER GIF! INYOTEF DID NOTHING WRONG

 

[Alexander Nicholi]

DEAN WINCHESTER GIF! INYOTEF DID NOTHING WRONG

Not sure if sarcastic

I only watched a season and a half of Supernatural ok

 

[Foxrally]

FoxRally

[EXECUTE]Sopheria

 

[Ice1]

I voted to kill Kokoro because, at the time, he seemed to be the target due to that RNG method and also said they'd accept it. So I just took that as a cue since I had absolutely no clue who to vote for with it being day one.

I don't think it's good enough of a reason to lynch you honestly, it's just smart for everyone to take notes of these things.

Not sure if sarcastic

I only watched a season and a half of Supernatural ok

Watch first five seasons. Enjoy first five seasons. Don't watch the other seasons, except for maybe the fun episodes. Let's not discuss this here.

 

[Foxrally]

Well TBH I was the one who started so it wouldn't have made sense for me to back out especially since we had no direct leads aside from Klip's premonition (Diddy's a psychic ayy), which is why I voted for Koko. The RNG method never got to see the light in F&D because we got an inactive player soon after starting it and everyone voted for them.

 

[GreyBidoof]

I stick with my original mistrust of lawyers. Therefore,

[EXECUTE]Deceptio

Fox, keep it up, and you're next.