Supporter Mafia Season Three: The Rebellion

[Foxrally]

I stick with my original mistrust of lawyers. Therefore,

[EXECUTE]Deceptio

Fox, keep it up, and you're next.

 

[Sopheria]

[EXECUTE]Sopheria

You can't vote for me. You're Tier 1 >_>

 

[gimmepie]

I've got to admit, Deceptio does sound suspicious.

Do we have any other leads?

But... you didn't just say Kokoro is innocent, you claimed Juno was innocent too, and tried to get my lynched for actually being willing to listen to Klippy. The fact that you defended Kokoro is only a sideshow, because what you did was push attention away from Juno, and towards me. You weren't just defending Kokoro, you were actively pushing the blame onto someone else, away from someone we had an actual, albeit a very shakey, lead on. It also wasn't your defense that crumbled the RNG method, but the general badness of that system. A lot of us argued against it. The truth is, everyone knew Kokoro couldn't defend herself, and she was only going to be lynched because of the RNG, and then a lead came in. A lead you chose to ignore and focus your attention on a shakier one, choosing to ignore any evidence against Juno, and going as far as calling her innocent already... You're defense doesn't hold up.

On another note, what the hell are you even saying Inyotef?

Perhaps we should all remember that MorallyIncorrect was also against voting for Juno?
Not to mention that he was acting quite nervous at the beginning and that he made a slip up about "killing someone tonight".

I think Deceptio looks shaky because he targeted Klippy (It's just easier to call you that lol) but realistically speaking, is it that strange that he did? He went after someone who was making seemingly baseless claims and just happened to be right for whatever reason.

I am confident that MI is a Rogue.
If I'm wrong I will happily chase Cep with a pitchfork but I am quite sure that he is in fact innocent at this stage.

 

[Ice1]

Perhaps we should all remember that MorallyIncorrect was also against voting for Juno?
Not to mention that he was acting quite nervous at the beginning and that he made a slip up about "killing someone tonight".

I think Deceptio looks shaky because he targeted Klippy (It's just easier to call you that lol) but realistically speaking, is it that strange that he did? He went after someone who was making seemingly baseless claims and just happened to be right for whatever reason.

I am confident that MI is a Rogue.
If I'm wrong I will happily chase Cep with a pitchfork but I am quite sure that he is in fact innocent at this stage.

I was actually one of the strong arguers to lynch Juno. I sided with Klippy, and the only reason I did not vote for Juno is because I am not Tier 2.

I'll link you to these posts to show that I was one of the people actually actively argueing to lynch Juno

Spoiler:

As I said, following up on Klippy's lead may give us information, which yours doesn't. Yours is based on my words, and when I die, you don't have to explain as to why you got an innocent lynched, while Klippy does have to stand for his claims if he does. This gives us information about Klippy as well. I think it's the smarter option for that matter.

The only reason why Klippy would accuse someone that was also innocent, if he were to be, were if he was to make a false claim based on nothing, or the secret mafia role has the ability to trick people, but I don't see how that would work. You also seem to forget that what you and I do is the same, accusing possible innocent people to further the goal of the game.

The problem your second argument makes is that you don't want to play this game humanely. In a real court room, of course, sacrifing someone is bad, but in this case it gives us either information we desperately need, or a killed rogue. In case of them both being innocent, which I highly doubt, because that would be incredibely stupid on Klippy's part, we lose, indeed, but as mentioned literally half a sentence before, the only reason for Klippy to lie in this situation is to be incredibly stupid. Making a claim this early in the game, where players are plentiful, are statements are hard to proof, is incredibly dangerous, which actually helps his statement. I honestly play this game a little dirty most of the time. Especially early game, with this many players, it might be worth it to potentially sacrifice an innocent. The chance is 1/6 we lynch a rogue if we just choose randomly, but because Klippy took a clear standpoint very early on, it's clear that something is amiss there. I'll make statistics

We lynch Juno and she's innocent
23/25 green left, 6/6 non-greens
The vigilante knows however to this night kill Klippy, who is sure to be either an idiot or a non-green at this point.
23/25 green left, 5/6 non-greens
This is at the start of day 2, which is a great score in the early game

We lynch Juno and she's a rogue as Klippy claims
24/25 green left, 5/6 non-greens
Very good odds very early on, and we now know to protect Klippy.

We can take him up on his random, non-sensical claim because it's early game, and there are still a lot of players. This puts us in a good situation either way. The only possible way for this to go wrong is if Klippy turns out to be a troll, which is very bad sportsmanship, and I don't think should be even allowed in this game.

You're other arguments don't apply to mafia really, haha, although I'm going to call you if I ever get accused of murder in the real world :p

What you're doing now is actually twisting the facts to make me more suspicious, because what you're saying isn't true at all. I've said we should lynch Juno very early one. The only person I defended was Kokoro.

 

[gimmepie]

I was actually one of the strong arguers to lynch Juno. I sided with Klippy, and the only reason I did not vote for Juno is because I am not Tier 2.

I'll link you to these posts to show that I was one of the people actually actively argueing to lynch Juno

Spoiler:

What you're doing now is actually twisting the facts to make me more suspicious, because what you're saying isn't true at all. I've said we should lynch Juno very early one. The only person I defended was Kokoro.

You know what, that's 100% my bad I forgot about those posts. Way to accidentally make yourself look suss GP.

I still think that you're a rogue, but I have to admit I don't have any further evidence than what has already been presented and that I completely forgot about those previous posts. So that leaves me uncertain on whether or not I really have enough to vote on.

I do believe that Cep is innocent though.

 

[Nakuzami]

Guys I have a confession to make . . . I'm party of the Mafia again this time I know I'm evil people never change I'm sorry

So, here are my thoughts...

Personally, I think the mafia was trying to set up Kokoro to get lynched. I think they manipulated the RNG results in order to get a loyal green killed (easy for them to do since they know who's innocent and who isn't, but the loyalists don't). Then when it didn't work and we killed one of theirs, they went ahead and killed Kokoro in retaliation.

So, I think we should look at who had Kokoro in their R (?) NG results. Chances are several of them are rogues:

or it could also be a setup. people initially made the observation (much like in Faeries & Daemons) that the list could be manipulated by the Rogues to stack votes against someone, and the first name people pointed out was Kokoro. So that could be why Kokoro was killed last night: to bring attention to those who had Kokoro on their lists, who were likely mostly not Rogues.

If the Rogues were that obvious in killing Kokoro after stacking votes against her (and also, I'm not sure if vote stacking would work because generally the minority group (Mafia, in this case Rogues) don't chat during the day phase) then they're not playing the game all that well

 

[Sopheria]

Guys I have a confession to make . . . I'm party of the Mafia again this time I know I'm evil people never change I'm sorry



or it could also be a setup. people initially made the observation (much like in Faeries & Daemons) that the list could be manipulated by the Rogues to stack votes against someone, and the first name people pointed out was Kokoro. So that could be why Kokoro was killed last night: to bring attention to those who had Kokoro on their lists, who were likely mostly not Rogues.

If the Rogues were that obvious in killing Kokoro after stacking votes against her (and also, I'm not sure if vote stacking would work because generally the minority group (Mafia, in this case Rogues) don't chat during the day phase) then they're not playing the game all that well

True. Actually, that makes a lot of sense. The Rogues might not have even taken part in the RNG.

 

[Captain Gizmo]

I am seriously considering voting for you because of that capitalized R

Do eet. DO EET!

 

[Klippy]

Okay, I see people want my info. I can reveal everything very soon. I have to confirm with gunner on what I can reveal though before I release it.

It's quite interesting, needless to say.

 

[Sopheria]

I am seriously considering voting for you because of that capitalized R

Wait, is that why you were gonna vote for me??

For shame, Foxrally -_-

 

[Captain Gizmo]

Actually... I've thought about this. If Aslan was absent from the votes, she can't be a traitor since she was absent. And one of the persons who actually voted for the person to die is ApocalypseArisen. I would've voted for F0xR4lly but his dedication to Nelly's rapping 'career' is just so beautiful to watch, so I think he would be a more important person for the village. Until ApocalypseArisen can change my mind, my vote will stick with him.

 

[GreenFlame]

Okay, I see people want my info. I can reveal everything very soon. I have to confirm with gunner on what I can reveal though before I release it.

It's quite interesting, needless to say.

You'd better hope you live up to it being "interesting".

Same goes for Super Mario Doom and its DLC: A Merry PokéCommunity Christmas. I'm starting to have doubts in the integrity of KlipPlay and that the devs aren't just sitting around earning money for nothing because of KlipPlay requiring KlipPay to access for 10 minutes.

 

[Klippy]

You'd better hope you live up to it being "interesting".

Same goes for Super Mario Doom and its DLC: A Merry PokéCommunity Christmas. I'm starting to have doubts in the integrity of KlipPlay and that the devs aren't just sitting around earning money for nothing because of KlipPlay requiring KlipPay to access for 10 minutes.

Haha. It should. I think it is. It really explains my hard push for Juno and why it was needed that she be executed.

HAHA. Well we decided to start charging a price for each MB of download. So we're thinking $5 per MB. ;)

 

[Omicron]

Actually... I've thought about this. If Aslan was absent from the votes, she can't be a traitor since she was absent. And one of the persons who actually voted for the person to die is ApocalypseArisen. I would've voted for F0xR4lly but his dedication to Nelly's rapping 'career' is just so beautiful to watch, so I think he would be a more important person for the village. Until ApocalypseArisen can change my mind, my vote will stick with him.

What? Being absent from the thread doesn't mean you don't send night actions. If you look through past mafia games, the absentees are usually mafia.

Also, I just went with the RNG. I couldn't vote for Juno since I was T1 and I changed my vote so Juno would get lynched.

Also, I'm considering voting for you for that capitalized A.

 

[gimmepie]

Actually... I've thought about this. If Aslan was absent from the votes, she can't be a traitor since she was absent. And one of the persons who actually voted for the person to die is ApocalypseArisen. I would've voted for F0xR4lly but his dedication to Nelly's rapping 'career' is just so beautiful to watch, so I think he would be a more important person for the village. Until ApocalypseArisen can change my mind, my vote will stick with him.

Yeah this doesn't make much sense I'm afraid since activity within the thread doesn't always match that outside. At this moment seems to me that apocalypseArisen is probably innocent.

My money is still on MorallyIncorrect, he made that slip up before, seemed nervous to me at the beginning and is just giving off a weird vibe to me. I could be wrong I admit, but as of now I'm voting. We'll see if anything else comes up to change my mind later.

[EXECUTE] MorallyIncorrect

 

[Foxrally]

You can't vote for me. You're Tier 1 >_>

(Gah! Forgot about that. Well, guess I don't really have anyone to go for, really...)

There's no real bandwagon to jump onto, either... I guess I'll vote for myself eventually if we really don't get any evidence though killing GP would be nice but I need to clean my fork first

Actually... I've thought about this. If Aslan was absent from the votes, she can't be a traitor since she was absent. And one of the persons who actually voted for the person to die is ApocalypseArisen. I would've voted for F0xR4lly but his dedication to Nelly's rapping 'career' is just so beautiful to watch, so I think he would be a more important person for the village. Until ApocalypseArisen can change my mind, my vote will stick with him.

Thank you, friend. As suspicious as I was of you earlier I will have do drop all charges as I am a true gentleman. Or in other, much more enlightening words, "ayy fo sho u help me out I help you out niqqa for a niqqa bro shmo"

 

[Charlie Brown]

gimmiepie you seem ridiculously keen to make something out of nothing and lynch MI.

 

[Nakuzami]

maybe he's an alchemist
you never know

well Klippy may be a double agent, or have a detective-esque role (since there are a few variations) so yee.

could it also be possible that the Rogues went for Klippy but he was protected, and Kokoro's death was the Vigilante jumping the gun? I hope not.

 

[Foxrally]

make something out of nothing

maybe he's an alchemist

I don't really think Klippy has a role at all. Anyway, since we don't have that many leads and there's no bandwagon to follow, I'll just vote for myself

[execute] gimmepie Foxrally

When does the day phase end?

 

[Alexander Nicholi]

I say we do another RNG, with the list of potential rogues we had eariler ITT. The rogues will give themselves away if they motion to stick together, and we already have suspects anyway.