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Serious Fake Friends

Lately, my sister and I have been talking about some of our friendships we felt were fake or one sided to one another and calling it "teatime". I recently helped her cut off one of her...not so healthy friendships.

So, I thought I'd make a thread asking if any of you had any fake friends. Be it online or in real life.

I feel like I've had a lot of those in the past, and I feel happier now that I have friends who care, versus people who were only pretending.

My only rule is, that if it's anyone from this website, please don't mention the person's name.
 
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Yes. I have had fake friends before, and they considered themselves to be real "Japanese Rockstars". Being rather gullible at the time, I believed them and considered them to be very close. However, it was like being in a cult. You had to act a certain way and be a certain way. For example, I've been a fangirl for as long as I can remember. Well, I wasn't allowed to be one because it "upset" them. I wasn't allowed to be myself because everything I did was a trigger. I finally got kicked out of the group, and it upset me for a while... but over time I started to understand just how toxic they were. They weren't true friends at all.
 
I've felt this in the past as a gut feeling and distanced myself from those type of people. Sometimes it feels clear that a person is just using you, rather than being interested in being your friend. I think that being said - I've been 'friends' with people who think we get along but I'm just trying to keep it polite, even if I dislike them. I try to keep my distance from those people too as I'd rather not lead them on with the idea we're proper friends.
 
One of my old classmates was this. He seemed nice but betrayed me in several instances, the one I remember being him deleting a history presentation I did where he was supposed to help me.
Recently none come to mind which is good....
 
Ah, yeah. There were four people, that I thought we were friends, but it got to a point, due to help and I guess maturity, that I figured out, that they weren't true friends at all. I was only there as a status thing. Like, 'i have so many friends' kind of thing, that and Pretty much a person they could inflict their insults at. I was really naive and didn't know much about friendships, so this tend to happen a lot. I trusted people too much.

My sibling helped me break off those friends in the end and i just hated feeling that, I HAD to keep my connection or be friends with them, even as an adult. It was hard to acknowledge that I was being used in a sense through friendship.
 
I feel like I've had many irl. There was this one girl who I kinda played with at recess here and there, and one day, she was like "I was only pretending to like you". And she was always just.... rude and nasty @ me when we were in High School, but only in school, not in scouts. I don't know what her problem was with me, but she was just fake the entire time we were "friends" for idk a few months, I guess?

Also, all the kids in my apartment complex were fake. They were only nice to me until I said I liked Pokemon, they then all said mean shit about me behind my back, and got all the other neighbor girls in on their major toxicity. They'd call me "lame" and then "try to turn me cool" until I just stopped playing with all of them. But elementary school kids are just mean, so it's yolo. They still tried to play
with me, anyway, and I was stupid enough to comply. Some days, they'd be nice, but most of the time, they'd just be mean to me.

As for online... I'm only gonna highlight one that I only recently realized was really fake. I won't address them by name.

Back in about 2011, I met this member on I think I wanna say Solstice (like anyone here remembers that forum) and I thought I got along really well with them. I really liked talking to them, because I believe they really liked the Pokemon anime. But maybe a few months into our friendship and having being on a rebooted forum (Only the EGC people might remember this) whenever I'd try talking to her, they'd get snappy at me, or ignore me. There was one time when I tried talking to her, and they said, "Just because I'm talking to (name of her best friend at the time) doesn't mean I'm in a good mood." in a really rude and snappy manner. I noticed they'd talk to everyone else normally, but treated me differently. They did apologize at some point, but idk, I don't think it was that real. I don't know why, but I guess they never really liked me. It'd make sense, I guess. After about 2015, I didn't really try talking to them again... since the forum I used to go on closed.

I do admit I did do some weird & not such good things in 2012/13, though, but even when I didn't, they'd still be snappy at me a lot more often than not. Eh, ah well, some personalities just clash, you know? But, nowadays, I don't know why I tried so hard to talk to them and be friends with them. They were always acting mad or annoyed when I messaged them...

This person isn't on PC, but I'm purposely keeping them anonymous. Don't ask me about them, though.
 
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You had to act a certain way and be a certain way. For example, I've been a fangirl for as long as I can remember. Well, I wasn't allowed to be one because it "upset" them.
I had a friend like that once. Fangirling over fictional men upset her. The difference is I kept doing it anyway because I can't be anyone but violently myself, so that relationship crumbled xD Didn't crumble well, and she called me a bunch of names behind my back (I had a snitch on the inside xD Double Agents ho, lmao), but I'm glad I'm finally free of her nonsense.

As for fake "friends", I don't tend to let myself get close to many people, so I've not had experiences with fake friends that have lasted for very long. The most prominent in my mind is one of my old "friends" who turned out to be an abusive jerk to her boyfriend (hit him, shoved him, left their baby with him so she could do drugs and have sex with other people, gaslighting him, etc.) and I only tolerated her because her now-ex-boyfriend is such a sweet and genuine guy.

She love-bombed me in the beginning of our "friendship", within a week calling me one of her best friends and telling me I was awesome and "so much fun to talk to". Really weirded me out and I'm very guarded, so I went about calling her my acquaintance instead. I found out she'd been lying to me a lot and I cut her out of my life after about half a year. Tbh, she seems like a narcissist or a sociopath. :/
 
I tend to be able to sniff out people like this very early on in a friendship so I can't say I've had too many problems with people like this.
 
I've had friends who were heavily mean spirited, but I never had any I thought of as fake.

To be fair I'm a loner at heart anyways, as a result of being raised by my mother who was naturally wary of people and thought me the best company is my own. One of the phrases I heard most growing up was "Don't even look at people, they might take it the wrong way".

There was one exception here which came from this website where I met my best friend, but that completely imploded with a situation I had no control or voice in.

I quickly reverted back into my old mindset, so while I love speaking with people there's always that barrier where I never want to hang out or end of back with a preference of my own company. I'm sure there have been people I've spoken with who could be considered fake, but as a result of these things it wouldn't matter anyways.
 
I consider fake friends the likes that aren't there for me (without a proper justification) when I need them. Simple as that. I've had some of them yeah but I don't think it's worth to mind it, it's better to move on and forget about them.

On the top of that, I have friends who are flawless and at times their actions or decisions got to hurt me but I don't consider them to be "fake". They're still friends even if they might hurt me. Flawless friends are not fake friends, nobody is perfect after all.
 
Eh.

This was interesting to think about.

It made me realize something, because I've never thought about it.

I don't get close enough to too many people to have "fake" friends, I don't think. I either am not close enough with someone to be friends At All, we have a normal co-worker friendship, or we stay each other lives for years and there's no going back. I don't have much of an in-between where anyone has been a fake friend to me. We could drift apart, but no one has ever duped me before. If I get that vibe from them, I just... stop talking to them very early on, I guess. I really don't have time for people's bullshit. lol

Edit: Oh, Pala mentioned childhood.... I think for me, even then all my friends were either close, or they were just classmates that I put up with. There were some kids who seemed to have fake friendships with each other, but I remember watching from the sidelines kinda wondering what the point was. LOL
 
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When I was about 7, there was this kid down the street who would get mad if I didn't let him borrow my toys. He'd persuade me to hand them over since we were "friends." Once I started to keep my distance like my parents suggested, he often tried to make me feel guilty. I'm grateful I moved out of that neighborhood a few years later.

Ever since then, the worst friendships I've had were just one-sided. I would try to send these people texts every now and then to stay in touch and I would never hear a response for weeks or months. Unlike that childhood neighbor, they aren't toxic or anything. They're just busier than me and don't have the time to respond.
 
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honestly, i can't say i've ever had a problem with 'fake friends', particularly. definitely had my share of bad friends (in the sense that they were toxic, unkind, narcissistic, etc), but they still valued their friendship with me and were were still very much... friends. thinking about it, it's a little surprising i haven't had a problem with fake friends, considering i'm naive to the nth degree and trust people easily. maybe it's just luck of the draw?
 
Yes. There was this girl who I was best friends with in elementary school. She was quite a lively, outgoing individual and the two of us instantly clicked. We were still close friends into high school but it was around grade eleven when my feelings about this individual shifted. I began to realize how possessive and narcissistic she could be.

One of my best friends started flirting with this guy whom my other friend liked. (She had an obsession with him and would babble about him non-stop to the point where it grew bothersome.) Anyways, she did everything her power to thwart the budding relationship between these two and attempted to manipulate both of them into believing falsehoods about one another. She ended up confessing her own feelings to the guy and he rejected her on several occasions. Eventually my best friend and the guy started dating and my fake friend cut her off and spent all of her time saying nasty things about the two of them whilst plotting to separate them still.

I began to distance myself from her upon seeing this behaviour. Moreover, I learned from my other friends that she had a few choice words for me as well. That I was "too loud" overly "sarcastic" and insinuated that I slept around (which wasn't true). She had similar things to say for other people in our friend group as well. I graduated high school last year and I've continued to phase this individual out of my life. She has still attempted to manipulate others in this particular friend group and has shown possessive and immensely controlling behaviour. She also has thrown fits over nonsensical things and is known to become enraged at the drop of a hat. She exemplifies hysterical behaviour and has an obsessive personality.

Another thing about this person is that when hanging out, she never wanted to do anything or go out anywhere. You had to do what she desired and that was that, otherwise she'd complain endlessly.

We engage in small talk once in a while but I try to avoid her as much as possible. I do have one friend who still talks to her on a regular basis and I'm cordial when I see her. However, though I miss all of the memories we shared I do not miss her specifically. I wish her no ill will and I genuinely hope that she finds peace within herself. I have so many other friends who are genuine and wonderful all around and I'm blessed to have them.
 
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I find this a difficult concept to think about in some ways. I mean, if someone is false with you (in the sense that they are dishonest in their intentions or feelings regarding you) then they were never really your friend to begin with, surely? It's a pretty black-and-white thing, at least to my way of thinking. You can't be friends with someone if you're not honest with them. If it's built on a lie, then it isn't friendship and it never was, regardless of what you or the other person thought. It doesn't matter how long the relationship lasts, once it gets revealed for what it is, everything that came before it was clearly a lie, or perceived from an incorrect perspective. There was never a friendship there, so it can't be "fake" because it never existed.

This will be distasteful to consider for some people, but I tend to fault myself rather than others for this because I shouldn't have assumed that these people were my friends in the first place. The assumption was mine, so the fault is mine. Everyone is dishonest. It's just the way humans are: we constantly reinvent ourselves so that we and others will view us from a more desirable perspective. But the most desirable perspective is always our own individual perspective; other people's thoughts and feelings ultimately don't matter to us. We only care about others if it is convenient for us, or benefits us in some fashion - even if that is just a feeling of contentment or happiness derived from the feelings of others...or rather, the reaction we get from others, because nobody can ever know entirely what someone else is feeling. We're selfish creatures. I don't think there is anything wrong with that - after all, if you don't put yourself first, then nobody will, and compassion isn't somehow invalid or negative because you get something from it too - but I can't really blame other people for acting how they wish to act, or thinking how they wish to think, or for otherwise not adhering to my flawed perspective of them. I can't just call them "fake" for not doing what I want them to do. Similarly, I can't just call them "friends" because we have more frequent interaction that I perceive as positive. Could they not turn around and say the same of me, and with equal justification?

I guess this is why I don't consider anyone a friend. The relationships I've had with others have always been built upon mutual convenience and interest, and once that faded, there was nothing left. It was never friendship to begin with, even if it may have felt like it at the time. But that's...OK? You don't need to be friends with someone to appreciate them, and you don't need a lasting relationship (or even a positive one) to have a fulfilling interaction. You can just appreciate people for who they are in the moment. If someone is deliberately manipulative or dishonest...well, does it really matter? You enjoyed the interaction you had with them at the time, and they can't take away the enjoyment you had from that, because you've already had it. All they can do is stop any future positive interaction, so in a way, they're only hurting themselves by doing this. But you used them for your own happiness too, because if you didn't enjoy talking with them then you wouldn't have bothered - you wouldn't think of someone as a friend if you didn't get something from all this as well. We all avoid people we don't like, and we all have sides to us that we would prefer other people not see, or that we try to keep hidden for our own personal advantage, even if that is just for the purpose of portraying ourselves in a positive light.

I would say that if someone you liked suddenly reveals a side of themselves you don't like, that doesn't make them fake. It just means you need to re-evaluate your relationship with them and your perspective of them. I would suggest that it's easier and better to respond with apathy than anger or hurt, because allowing someone who has attempted to invalidate past happiness you have had from them any further emotion or even thought is a waste of your time and a detriment to your mental health. They're not fake friends - they were never friends to begin with. But that's OK, because you had positive interaction with them and enjoyed the time you spent with them, and if they were dishonest or had ulterior motives during that time...well, isn't that their problem?
 
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A very long time ago I was friends with a pathological liar and thief. It didn't help that I was very easy to fool back then. After a couple years we went to different schools and up till today the only thing I heard was that he started to take drugs at some point.

I assume "fake friend" can also mean more than just abuse in some way? Back when I still was in a group of friends I had to realize at some point that I was feeling rather useless and only the one tagging along. Obviously it was not them who were the problem. They were doing all they could to be as inclusive (if that's the right word) as possible. But because I felt like not giving anything back just broke up everything and went into solitude to try and work on that. So that's what I've been doing for the last eight years. xD
 
I've had so many people lie to me that I've pretty much given up on trusting people. It's absolutely nutty how many people have no concern for anything other than themselves and will throw you aside like trash, then praise themselves for it and feel morally superior
 
I assume "fake friend" can also mean more than just abuse in some way?

Yes, it can be meant in that way, too. I just didn't mention it in the op.
 
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