Overwatch Mafia: Game over?!

That's fair, but why are you voting for him? This quick vote seems like one trying to start a BW.

I'm not starting a bandwagon. If one sentence is enough for you to jump onto a bandwagon, you're too easily swayed. I voted for Rabi to prove a point. He and I are not working together. If we were, I wouldn't want him dead. I thought that was fairly obvious.

I also voted for him because I figured the day phase was going to end while I was asleep.
 
This game is driving me mad right now. Something doesn't feel right about all this and I can't put my finger on what. Part of me still wants to vote Klippy, but honestly I don't feel I have nearly enough to justify that. I'm far less certain of him than I was of EC. I'm not feeling particularly suss of McCree and Rabi is almost certainly inno.

What do others besides Johnny think on the matter?
 
I still fail to see how potentially having a fake gun makes klippy scummy
 
I'm not starting a bandwagon. If one sentence is enough for you to jump onto a bandwagon, you're too easily swayed. I voted for Rabi to prove a point. He and I are not working together. If we were, I wouldn't want him dead. I thought that was fairly obvious.

I also voted for him because I figured the day phase was going to end while I was asleep.
Fair enough. Just wanted clarification.

I still fail to see how potentially having a fake gun makes klippy scummy
Actually I see him as having the real one and GP the fake one. So that's my take. And I don't really think that's why people are voting for him anyway.

Time to join the claim BW, I am S76 aka the Vigilante.

So yes we may seem like we are in cohorts, but that is not the case.

[Lynch]SuperJolt

You keep saying you'll 'come back' regarding posts, however again I essentially have 'you seem off' as your reason for lynching. It feels like you're getting town reads and are therefore trying to push them out.
Hmm this is a bit of a unfortunate claim given that you will certainly die very soon. Can you explain why you did not use your ability last night?

And while Superjolt does seem to be aggressive, that is part of his normal playstyle regardless of alignment. I currently have a null read on him, it's hard for me to say he's town or scum right now. But your reasons for voting him are ok.

This game is driving me mad right now. Something doesn't feel right about all this and I can't put my finger on what. Part of me still wants to vote Klippy, but honestly I don't feel I have nearly enough to justify that. I'm far less certain of him than I was of EC. I'm not feeling particularly suss of McCree and Rabi is almost certainly inno.

What do others besides Johnny think on the matter?
I understand your confusion. Keep in mind that the cult is a thing, that could be part of the issue?

Anyway, while I am a bit in agreement with GP, [Lynch] Goku anyway
 
Gotta love how Johnny knows exactly what the mafia would do. First he suggests I shoot a potentially fabbed gun to "prove it's fake", and then he seems to think/know what the mafia would do.

Johnny is either the worst townie in history or a mafioso who is playing his hand too aggressively. His exact same argument he's using to get me lynched is the one he used on Day One. He "got" fabbed armor and nobody said a thing.

[LYNCH] Johnny

If you guys are sheep and follow that bad logic, then shame on you.
 
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Gotta love how Johnny knows exactly what the mafia would do. First he suggests I shoot a potentially fabbed gun to "prove it's fake", and then he seems to think/know what the mafia would do.

Johnny is either the worst townie in history or a mafioso who is playing his hand too aggressively. His exact same argument he's using to get me lynched is the one he used on Day One. He "got" fabbed armor and nobody said a thing.

[LYNCH] Johnny

If you guys are sheep and follow that bad logic, then shame on you.
I'm not sure I quite follow your argument here. What does Johnny claiming fabbed armor have to do with it? Are you saying you don't believe his claim?

I dislike this phase because Johnny and Klippy both look scummy but there's no way that both of them are scum.
Hmm yeah there is an interesting dynamic between the two. However I'm more inclined to think Johnny is inno based on his very early D1 armor claim, given that we know for sure that it can't be real. And no one else claimed getting either a gun or armor.

This is very much my last resort. Believe me I did not want to out at all but considering the heat I'm been getting I felt it was necessary. At the very least it now means that if I do get picked off tonight then you can deduce who you should be looking at during the next Day Phase. I did not use my NA as I was still very uncertain as who to target, the one person I was leaning towards was killed during the day phase (Alex Kaz) and I really didn't want to potentially gun another inno down (especially as Alex flipped inno).

Now I don't play anywhere near as much as most of you here do, so I will not be using past games and the like as reasoning towards my voting for them. I just do not have the capacity to be able to realise when someone is inno/scum based off things like that.
Why would you have wanted to kill Alex? And he died during the night, so you could have potentially targeted him. This post is confusing and actually doesn't back up your claim at all.
 
Hmm yeah there is an interesting dynamic between the two. However I'm more inclined to think Johnny is inno based on his very early D1 armor claim, given that we know for sure that it can't be real. And no one else claimed getting either a gun or armor.

My thoughts on Johnny are much the same. I can't help but feel a bit weird about the Klippy lynch now. Honestly though, we can afford to lose an inno in the worst case so I'm gonna go for it unless something better comes up.

[Lynch] Goku

Also, he was referring to Johnny not applying the same logic to his vest as to the gun.
 
I'm not sure I quite follow your argument here. What does Johnny claiming fabbed armor have to do with it? Are you saying you don't believe his claim?

Have you not been paying attention...at all?


Johnny claims he got armor. There's no proof he got armor beside his word. Nobody questions it. Abby also got armor and was hit.

I claim I got a rocket. There's no proof I got a rocket beside my word. gimme also got a gun and magically this makes me suspicious to Johnny.

Johnny tells me to shoot the potentially fabbed rocket to prove its fake (how doesn't this sound suspicious to anyone else?) - AKA he knows it's fake.

Now he's claiming I don't have a fabbed rocket at all, and yet knows exactly how the mafia would have played it - giving gimme a fake gun.

How doesn't that make sense to you? It's the exact same situation, only Johnny is using it to his advantage to get me lynched and nobody seems to be paying attention to it being exactly the same.
 
Have you not been paying attention...at all?


Johnny claims he got armor. There's no proof he got armor beside his word. Nobody questions it. Abby also got armor and was hit.

I claim I got a rocket. There's no proof I got a rocket beside my word. gimme also got a gun and magically this makes me suspicious to Johnny.

Johnny tells me to shoot the potentially fabbed rocket to prove its fake (how doesn't this sound suspicious to anyone else?) - AKA he knows it's fake.

Now he's claiming I don't have a fabbed rocket at all, and yet knows exactly how the mafia would have played it - giving gimme a fake gun.

How doesn't that make sense to you? It's the exact same situation, only Johnny is using it to his advantage to get me lynched and nobody seems to be paying attention to it being exactly the same.
I'm paying attention, I'm just not convinced that Johnny is scum, aside from possibly being cult. Also, there may be "no proof", but there were no CC's, so that makes me believe that every item claim so far is true. And based on Johnny's claimed vest obviously being fake, that clears him from being mafia in my mind for now. Do you think the fabricator didn't submit an action on N0?
 
I'm paying attention, I'm just not convinced that Johnny is scum, aside from possibly being cult. Also, there may be "no proof", but there were no CC's, so that makes me believe that every item claim so far is true. And based on Johnny's claimed vest obviously being fake, that clears him from being mafia in my mind for now. Do you think the fabricator didn't submit an action on N0?

You're clearly not paying attention then, since the same argument he's using against me is exactly what he could've done Day One. He says I don't really have a gun, after I said I did get one. He claimed he got a vest, but who's to say he didn't fake his claim like he's now accusing me of doing?

I've argued my point enough. If you guys are too clueless to see you're being played by him, then I'm not bothering anymore.
 
Time to join the claim BW, I am S76 aka the Vigilante.

So yes we may seem like we are in cohorts, but that is not the case.

[Lynch]SuperJolt

You keep saying you'll 'come back' regarding posts, however again I essentially have 'you seem off' as your reason for lynching. It feels like you're getting town reads and are therefore trying to push them out.
I think that's an exaggeration, my previous post was the only post so far where I said anything about "coming back". I'm sorry for not addressing you right away, thought it would be better to do so with a clear head. That wasnt my only reason for scum reading you, you getting on the Para wagon was also a reason. Explain what you mean by that last line though? I don't want to lynch my town reads

(Unvote) Rabi for the claim though

ok phone post so not gonna quote but still have comments

@McCree: I expected you to vote Ninjorf again, what made you vote Rab over him?

@jd: Why didn't you acknowledge my response to you? It feels slightly strange that you skip over that but respond to everyone else

@GP: I kind of get a similar feeling, though it's more than just Klippy vs Johnny that gives me that feeling. What do you think about jd?
 
Random thought that most likely will turn out to be utterly false, but what is Johnny and Klippy are both of the same alignment.
Don't see that right now.

I think that's an exaggeration, my previous post was the only post so far where I said anything about "coming back". I'm sorry for not addressing you right away, thought it would be better to do so with a clear head. That wasnt my only reason for scum reading you, you getting on the Para wagon was also a reason. Explain what you mean by that last line though? I don't want to lynch my town reads

(Unvote) Rabi for the claim though

ok phone post so not gonna quote but still have comments

@McCree: I expected you to vote Ninjorf again, what made you vote Rab over him?

@jd: Why didn't you acknowledge my response to you? It feels slightly strange that you skip over that but respond to everyone else

@GP: I kind of get a similar feeling, though it's more than just Klippy vs Johnny that gives me that feeling. What do you think about jd?
Sorry about that, it got lost in the shuffle since I was responding to more recent interactions. Goku never did address his Rabi/McCree alliance accusation in more detail, but I think Rabi and McCree have addressed it enough that I believe they aren't working together intentionally at this point. Would still be interested in hearing more about why Goku made that accusation in the first place though.

Also I think Rabi meant you were getting town read and were trying to take advantage of it to push your scum reads out aggressively and perhaps set up mislynches. Not sure if that's what you were/are actually doing, but I can see how Rabi could interpret it that way. What are your thoughts on Johnny vs. Goku? Anybody you want to vote for other than perhaps Ninjorf?
 
Figure out the Rabi/McCree stuff on your own. If you aren't willing to see what's right in front of you, I'm not helping further. t('-'t)
 
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