Steven Universe Mafia

Barely anyone has talked at all tho. I would like to see a CC on Peedee, Steven, and Jaime I guess but like. We've been told as well that some roles have not been filled and it would make sense to eliminate a role so unobtrusive as Peedee, even if Ronaldo is still around. So it would also be easy to claim such an unassuming role and bet on nobody being able to CC.

If I were mafia and was looking to claim an innocent role, I'd be claiming vanilla human since there's a larger number of them than other roles and they don't have an ability I can be caught out on not using. You saw me do exactly that back in Merlin Mafia.

You're wasting your time looking at me or Seth/jd. I'm sure there's a driver sort of ability being used to confuse us.
 
GP's claims aren't backed by a lot. I mean, it's easy to say somebody doesn't have any items in N0. But the lack of a counterclaim would speak almost speak for itself. Jasper silencing Peedee is an option, but such a claim wouldn't save your skin for more than a day (since that would mean Peedee dies soon). I doubt GP would do that, so I'm going to [Abstain] for now.

EDIT: Ninja'd by our pie himself. It makes sense what he says.
 
Alright the way I'm reading things is that
- if garg was Jaime, she knew the identity of jasper and the person garg latched onto
- it also makes sense for Seth to be Steven since that's the only role who could fuse with Jamie
- fusions get shared chats. or even if steven didnt truly fuse with jamie, they may be mimicking the fusion in ways.
- gp has to beit on him.jasper due to jamie copying gp's ability and recieving abilities attributed to jasper: "There was one witness, but the pathetic, inferior being didn't even try to stop Jasper. It watched, and slipped away before Jasper noticed it. Of all things, that human instead mimicked Jasper, clinging to someone else and stopping them from doing anything. Unlike Jasper, though, the human won't be able to force their target's silence or their death."
- jasper found out who steven is last night for sure
- the reference to the mysterious figure telling steven where to find a homeworld gem seems to be to garg telling seth who jasper is

so... i guess im willing to believe seth rn?

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jdthebud said:

jd confirmed he visited GP this night. what are you doing. I though you knew GP better than me since it's been so long since we last played but what is wrong with you guys this is nornal scum! gimmepie behaviour. He tries to manipulate you with saying things like "if I was mafia, I would do this".

You can't abstain forever!! I read Merlin Mafia and I saw how GP played, he plaus like this as scum. Just look how desperate he is.

I'm not denying the possibility of him being screwed by driver but this would be 1-5% MAX. This is D2 why are you abstaining? Lynch GP and gain info. This makes me think Pecilia is scum buddies with GP. Lycan seems okay to me. I dislike how Pecilia has beeb doubting me from the start.

Lynch GP, find out if he is mafia or not. Or would you rather stay the rest of the game not knowing what GP is? Okay, that's all lol jd is confirmed innocent and I got a townread on Anna because that post was great and she didn't hesitate to confront GP.

@jd read the day post, not this one, last one it's okay if you're confused. Actually, just read what Anna said it makes sense. in D1 post it's said that Jasper fused with Sapphire and would destroy him etc. then it said there was a weak being watching which means it was a human. Now you know what Jamie does right? He chooses 2 persons: One to copy the ability and the other to use it on him. As you can see from the day post, he mimicked Jasper and aince you chose GP that means you chose Jasper
 
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jd confirmed he visited GP this night. what are you doing. I though you knew GP better than me since it's been so long since we last played but what is wrong with you guys this is nornal scum! gimmepie behaviour. He tries to manipulate you with saying things like "if I was mafia, I would do this".

You can't abstain forever!! I read Merlin Mafia and I saw how GP played, he plaus like this as scum. Just look how desperate he is.

I'm not denying the possibility of him being screwed by driver but this would be 1-5% MAX. This is D2 why are you abstaining? Lynch GP and gain info. This makes me think Pecilia is scum buddies with GP. Lycan seems okay to me. I dislike how Pecilia has beeb doubting me from the start.

Lynch GP, find out if he is mafia or not. Or would you rather stay the rest of the game not knowing what GP is? Okay, that's all lol jd is confirmed innocent and I got a townread on Anna because that post was great and she didn't hesitate to confront GP.

@jd read the day post, not this one, last one it's okay if you're confused. Actually, just read what Anna said it makes sense. in D1 post it's said that Jasper fused with Sapphire and would destroy him etc. then it said there was a weak being watching which means it was a human. Now you know what Jamie does right? He chooses 2 persons: One to copy the ability and the other to use it on him. As you can see from the day post, he mimicked Jasper and aince you chose GP that means you chose Jasper


I think you should be more open to the unexpected instead of focusing in on me - especially when I'm un-CCd. Let's think through this a bit.

1. It'd be illogical of anyone playing mafia to claim a role with a night action because it's too easy for the town to prove you're lying. On top of that, it makes no sense to choose a role that only one person can have because then if you get CC'd even if the other person dies first you're still doomed the next night/day - and in the worst case scenario the town kills you first and then there's a confirmed inno screwing up your plans. Nobody who is even remotely good at the game would choose to fake a role when there's vanillas around.

2. It'd be weird for a mafia faking Peedee to admit to "forgetting an action". They'd want to paint themselves as useful to the game to prevent people like you from killing them off just in case.

3. If Peedee had been silenced, you'd probably have seen mention of Jasper claiming another victim in the phase post since he's such a big player in the lore (at least it looks that way). There's of course no guarantee, after all a driver isn't mentioned either, but that could be done on purpose to help the mafia since the mafia is quite a lot weaker than a town with so much investigative potential. So this doesn't confirm anything but it certainly helps my case.

4. Bard and Gunner are two of the most random GMs we've got and are both prone to including extremely weird and confusing stuff in the games. It's almost certain that they've got some strange stuff hidden up their sleeves and with a mafia role handing out night actions to its subordinates it is far from inconceivable that there was a driver in play when I was visited. You're completely welcome to try again, but I wouldn't recommend it because if there is a driver in play they'll just redirect the action again and try to have me framed.

Don't forget me by any means, but don't focus in on me because that is exactly what the mafia want. Remember, the mafia try to eliminate people they perceive as a threat early which is why they're coming for people who have been prominent in recent games.

Why don't we take a look at the people who aren't speaking instead for a minute? There's too many for it to be a sure sign of mafia but there's bound to be a few in there sitting back and letting us take each other out in the chaos this has caused. Is there anyone being silent who you feel is typically more vocal?

Also, I write too many posts in list format lol.
 
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jd confirmed he visited GP this night. what are you doing. I though you knew GP better than me since it's been so long since we last played but what is wrong with you guys this is nornal scum! gimmepie behaviour. He tries to manipulate you with saying things like "if I was mafia, I would do this".

You can't abstain forever!! I read Merlin Mafia and I saw how GP played, he plaus like this as scum. Just look how desperate he is.

I'm not denying the possibility of him being screwed by driver but this would be 1-5% MAX. This is D2 why are you abstaining? Lynch GP and gain info. This makes me think Pecilia is scum buddies with GP. Lycan seems okay to me. I dislike how Pecilia has beeb doubting me from the start.

Lynch GP, find out if he is mafia or not. Or would you rather stay the rest of the game not knowing what GP is? Okay, that's all lol jd is confirmed innocent and I got a townread on Anna because that post was great and she didn't hesitate to confront GP.
We've lost 4 innocent, you can't blame me for being a bit wary. I also wasn't in Merlin so I don't know GP's scum play style. Oh and I doubt everyone until I know personally if someone's innocent. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on GPs play style. It wouldn't make sense for someone to use a scum play style as an innocent. GP doesn't have anyone to back up his claims as well where as you do. So going to [SHATTER] Gimmepie but if he comes up as Peedee I'm probably going to take even more caution with your discoveries. In terms of risk and reward, the reward is very high and the risk is... well basically another innocent. 5 innocents this early is going to make this harder. We need really need more people to step up though if GP's going to be shattered.
 
We've lost 4 innocent, you can't blame me for being a bit wary. I also wasn't in Merlin so I don't know GP's scum play style. Oh and I doubt everyone until I know personally if someone's innocent. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on GPs play style. It wouldn't make sense for someone to use a scum play style as an innocent. GP doesn't have anyone to back up his claims as well where as you do. So going to [SHATTER] Gimmepie but if he comes up as Peedee I'm probably going to take even more caution with your discoveries. In terms of risk and reward, the reward is very high and the risk is... well basically another innocent. 5 innocents this early is going to make this harder. We need really need more people to step up though if GP's going to be shattered.

Yes he has someone to corroborate his story, but that same person also said they don't think I'm Jasper and unfortunately I don't think the mafia are going to post like "Oh yeah lol, we totally did that. Wasn't it good?"

For the record though, when it comes to my public face in mafia I have worked pretty damn hard to make sure I play pretty much identically either way ever since I got into the game simply because I don't want to be mislynched for "acting different" as town nor to stand out as mafia. So it stands to reason that Seth would see me "acting like I do as scum" because my behaviour shouldn't really change.
 
[SHATTER] Gimmepie

I never said I thought you weren't Jasper, I was just confused as to why a chat was formed. I wasn't aware of the whole fusion = chat thing at the time, and given the flavor text, I am willing to follow this lynch. Even if it ends up being wrong, it's by far our best lead right now. I would have been more willing to believe you if you had claimed Lapis Lazuli.
 
[SHATTER] Gimmepie

I never said I thought you weren't Jasper, I was just confused as to why a chat was formed. I wasn't aware of the whole fusion = chat thing at the time, and given the flavor text, I am willing to follow this lynch. Even if it ends up being wrong, it's by far our best lead right now. I would have been more willing to believe you if you had claimed Lapis Lazuli.

Which I would have done if that was my role but I'm in the habit of not feeding my team misinformation to save my own skin. I've given you the truth and it's up to you whether or not you continue to waste your lynch on me.

Personally I think of everyone that has actually posted, Pecilia is the most scummy so I'll throw my vote their way for the time being.

[Shatter] Pecilia
 
I mean maybe a maf would try to claim a vanilla human but like I said before, not all the roles were even filled initially. It makes sense to claim a role that is disposable from a GM standpoint.

Anyway, all clues point to gp being Jasper, really. [SHATTER] gimmepie
 
I think you should be more open to the unexpected instead of focusing in on me - especially when I'm un-CCd. Let's think through this a bit.

1. It'd be illogical of anyone playing mafia to claim a role with a night action because it's too easy for the town to prove you're lying. On top of that, it makes no sense to choose a role that only one person can have because then if you get CC'd even if the other person dies first you're still doomed the next night/day - and in the worst case scenario the town kills you first and then there's a confirmed inno screwing up your plans. Nobody who is even remotely good at the game would choose to fake a role when there's vanillas around.

2. It'd be weird for a mafia faking Peedee to admit to "forgetting an action". They'd want to paint themselves as useful to the game to prevent people like you from killing them off just in case.

3. If Peedee had been silenced, you'd probably have seen mention of Jasper claiming another victim in the phase post since he's such a big player in the lore (at least it looks that way). There's of course no guarantee, after all a driver isn't mentioned either, but that could be done on purpose to help the mafia since the mafia is quite a lot weaker than a town with so much investigative potential. So this doesn't confirm anything but it certainly helps my case.

4. Bard and Gunner are two of the most random GMs we've got and are both prone to including extremely weird and confusing stuff in the games. It's almost certain that they've got some strange stuff hidden up their sleeves and with a mafia role handing out night actions to its subordinates it is far from inconceivable that there was a driver in play when I was visited. You're completely welcome to try again, but I wouldn't recommend it because if there is a driver in play they'll just redirect the action again and try to have me framed.

Don't forget me by any means, but don't focus in on me because that is exactly what the mafia want. Remember, the mafia try to eliminate people they perceive as a threat early which is why they're coming for people who have been prominent in recent games.

Why don't we take a look at the people who aren't speaking instead for a minute? There's too many for it to be a sure sign of mafia but there's bound to be a few in there sitting back and letting us take each other out in the chaos this has caused. Is there anyone being silent who you feel is typically more vocal?

Also, I write too many posts in list format lol.

It's not illogical, just risky. If i was a mafia, Jasper to be precise, I would be taking one for the team since I'm already in a horrible position. I would claim a PR. Vanilla human is actually the easy way and you may get lynched first too.

As for why you didn't get CC'd, it's because not enough player signed up so that all roles get to play. That means that there could very well be no Peedee in this game. Or, as you said yourself, there are too many inactive people.

Again, I already said that a driver screwing you up is possible but improbable. You are the best lead we've got right here, even if you turn up town it should be useful info and will throw shade against other people.
 
I think you should be more open to the unexpected instead of focusing in on me - especially when I'm un-CCd. Let's think through this a bit.

1. It'd be illogical of anyone playing mafia to claim a role with a night action because it's too easy for the town to prove you're lying. On top of that, it makes no sense to choose a role that only one person can have because then if you get CC'd even if the other person dies first you're still doomed the next night/day - and in the worst case scenario the town kills you first and then there's a confirmed inno screwing up your plans. Nobody who is even remotely good at the game would choose to fake a role when there's vanillas around.

2. It'd be weird for a mafia faking Peedee to admit to "forgetting an action". They'd want to paint themselves as useful to the game to prevent people like you from killing them off just in case.

3. If Peedee had been silenced, you'd probably have seen mention of Jasper claiming another victim in the phase post since he's such a big player in the lore (at least it looks that way). There's of course no guarantee, after all a driver isn't mentioned either, but that could be done on purpose to help the mafia since the mafia is quite a lot weaker than a town with so much investigative potential. So this doesn't confirm anything but it certainly helps my case.

4. Bard and Gunner are two of the most random GMs we've got and are both prone to including extremely weird and confusing stuff in the games. It's almost certain that they've got some strange stuff hidden up their sleeves and with a mafia role handing out night actions to its subordinates it is far from inconceivable that there was a driver in play when I was visited. You're completely welcome to try again, but I wouldn't recommend it because if there is a driver in play they'll just redirect the action again and try to have me framed.

Don't forget me by any means, but don't focus in on me because that is exactly what the mafia want. Remember, the mafia try to eliminate people they perceive as a threat early which is why they're coming for people who have been prominent in recent games.

Why don't we take a look at the people who aren't speaking instead for a minute? There's too many for it to be a sure sign of mafia but there's bound to be a few in there sitting back and letting us take each other out in the chaos this has caused. Is there anyone being silent who you feel is typically more vocal?

Also, I write too many posts in list format lol.

#1 and #2 are easy for you to say. It really wouldn't surprise me if you'd claimed a role like that just because you'd be able to make claims like this. Those mean nothing.

However... I thought people were so sure GP as Jasper was able to safely claim Peedee because had Peedee silenced. I just can't seem to fit that in. A claim like this would with 100% chance result in a clear guilt by the next day and other than a tidy bit of time you win nothing. I'm just going to wait and see what happens.
 
I love how Seth called me out for saying "if I were mafia" and then did the same thing. But you guys seem to think I'm pulling some sort of strategy here to either get the "real" Peedee to out or that I'm saying this knowing he's been Jaspered or not even in the game. So here's another one of my lists for you :D

1. If I was going to claim a role in the hopes of getting the real role to out, I would claim a PR not something as borderline useless as Peedee. If I'm going to basically give my life up just to kill a role, it's going to be someone who can actually hurt the mafia.

2. There'd be little point in trying this if Peedee had been silenced. It'd buy me one night and then everything would become clear when the real one died.

3. How could I possibly know which roles were and were not in the game? At best I'd be taking a gamble that just leads right back to the first point in the worst case scenario. Besides, following our typical procedures in the UG, if any roles were cut it'll be vanillas since they're the most expendable.

Honestly, it's pretty sad that I've been able to explain exactly why you're wrong and provide a completely feasible alternative and yet you're still voting for me. If you guys are going to be this easy to manipulate the mafia are going to have a field day. I'm starting to wish I actually was on their side lol.
 
Honestly, it's pretty sad that I've been able to explain exactly why you're wrong and provide a completely feasible alternative and yet you're still voting for me. If you guys are going to be this easy to manipulate the mafia are going to have a field day. I'm starting to wish I actually was on their side lol.
Your alternative is that Doc has a redirection power, right? While that may be true it's hard for me to know for sure, since when I used your action, it gave me a chat with Seth. And how do you explain the phase post:

There was one witness, but the pathetic, inferior being didn't even try to stop Jasper. It watched, and slipped away before Jasper noticed it. Of all things, that human instead mimicked Jasper, clinging to someone else and stopping them from doing anything. Unlike Jasper, though, the human won't be able to force their target's silence or their death.
Also, who should we lynch instead of you? I noticed you voted for Pecilia but why do you find them scummy?
 
Your alternative is that Doc has a redirection power, right? While that may be true it's hard for me to know for sure, since when I used your action, it gave me a chat with Seth. And how do you explain the phase post:

Not Doc, one of his cronies. Doc's ability is literally to assign a night action to his subordinates. It doesn't say what those abilities are - if they have complete creative freedom, or if they can choose any standard EM abilities. I'd be inclined to assume the latter or at least some sort of list.

As for the phase post, am I ever mentioned by name? Only the roles are so it still fits fine with my explanation.


Also, who should we lynch instead of you? I noticed you voted for Pecilia but why do you find them scummy?

Whilst I admit it's not much to go on, from the perspective of someone who knows I'm innocent, he's the scummiest. He was happy to attack Seth even though Seth's explanation was pretty solid and then was equally happy to flip-flop and attack me (who also has given a solid explanation) all the while ignoring anything either of us have actually said. It looks to me that he wants to appear active but doesn't really care who dies as long as it isn't a teammate.
 
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