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What if...? You could live on any other planet
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I wouldn't. Everyone I love and care about is here on Earth.
Like, Musk says he wants to take humanity to Mars but I just couldn't when the average temp is -60.
EDIT: Actually take me to Mars and the sheer amount of Iron there may cure my anemia.
Like, Musk says he wants to take humanity to Mars but I just couldn't when the average temp is -60.
EDIT: Actually take me to Mars and the sheer amount of Iron there may cure my anemia.
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Kepler-442b. That planet super far away that's almost the same size as Earth and has a similar atmosphere that can breed life. Might be a good fresh start.
I think the avg temperature on Venus is like 800 celsius. That said, if we can invent something to knock away some of the heat, it's a similar size to Earth.
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Sticks with Earth. Reasoning:
1. Assumes climate-controlled bubbles of civilization on other planets. What happens when it fails? Brings the Texas power outage last winter to mind.
2. What do those planets have to offer? Dust storms? Vast, rocky expanses? Might be difficult to venture out into too. How would you explore Jupiter? (Considers Earth habitable. Barely ventures into its oceans. Views other planets like that.)
3. Water. Circles back to the assumption in 1. How will humans prevent water loss? Likely invented some way to recapture most water. Doubts it being 100% efficient. (Wondered how they manage on space stations currently. Recycles ~80%.) Probably requires regular delivery for large colonies. What happens if that breaks down? Alternatively, what effect does that have on Earth? Will they refuse future water deliveries someday?
1. Assumes climate-controlled bubbles of civilization on other planets. What happens when it fails? Brings the Texas power outage last winter to mind.
2. What do those planets have to offer? Dust storms? Vast, rocky expanses? Might be difficult to venture out into too. How would you explore Jupiter? (Considers Earth habitable. Barely ventures into its oceans. Views other planets like that.)
3. Water. Circles back to the assumption in 1. How will humans prevent water loss? Likely invented some way to recapture most water. Doubts it being 100% efficient. (Wondered how they manage on space stations currently. Recycles ~80%.) Probably requires regular delivery for large colonies. What happens if that breaks down? Alternatively, what effect does that have on Earth? Will they refuse future water deliveries someday?
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Probably Mars, if technology was there, and whatnot. Otherwise, I wouldn't. But maybe an alternate earth where climate change was fixed.
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I'm a bit too lazy to move out but this is Earth- a place I've lived my whole life and it suits my fleshy needs, its got the right atmosphere, temp, and some great video games.
Sure, not everything is perfect, especially what's going on right now... but I feel welcomed. I feel like I belong, and... it feels the most home.
Sure, not everything is perfect, especially what's going on right now... but I feel welcomed. I feel like I belong, and... it feels the most home.
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Total Recall, The Expanse, and I assume many others say Yes - that is exactly what will happen.
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The Trappist-1 system in the constellation of Aquarius looks intriguing. That solar system has 7 planets about the size and mass of earth orbitting it's sun. They appear to have rocky surface compositions like earth that humans could stand on, and not be all gas like Jupiter Neptune, Saturn, Uranus, as well as contain about the same proportion of materials like iron, oxygen, silicone and magnesium that make up our planet. Water in some form has been detected on all 7 worlds. 3 planets fall within the system's habitable zone, and Planet Trappist 1-E in particular looks like an ocean planet with not just water in the form of vapors and ice, but actual liquid water on it's surface.
The temperatures on Trappist E-1 are thought to be similar to ours too. It would be cooler, It has a calculated equilibrium temperature of -16 degrees Fahrenheit/ -27 degrees Celsius, but put that in perspective with planet Mars, the most likely candidate for colonization in our solar system, which has temperatures that can dip to about 280 degrees below farenheit. 1-E also has greenhouse gases to keep the planet warm, so a special space suit wouldn't be required just to survive the weather.
The gravity there is a little lighter than earth, but it's still 93% the same surface gravity, so that's a very close match, closer than Mars or the moon, or even Venus, so medical problems like muscle and bone density loss from dramatic decreases in gravity strength wouldn't be a problem. It wouldn't be enough of a gravity change to be that perceptible, just enough difference to make life on the planet more fun. You might find that you can go a little higher when you're doing jumping jacks and skipping rope, and your grocery bags and backpacks are lighterweight and easier to tote around, and that you have lost that extra 5 or 10 pounds of weight you had been meaning to after the holidays.
Due to the distance from the sun and it's temperature scientists think this exoplanet and others in the system receive an amount of light similar to planets in our solar system. It's supposed to be beautiful on Trappist 1-E too. Since the sun is an ultra cool red dwarf that would produce a stunning red pink glow to the sky, to give days with the appearance of always in sunrise/sunset. Because the planets all huddle very close to it's parent star you can see the six other planets from the sky the same way we would look up and see the moon from earth at night, but they would be twice the size of full moons, and if the neighboring planets have continents you would even be able to make them out from your own planet.
If only Trappist had a cooler name...
The temperatures on Trappist E-1 are thought to be similar to ours too. It would be cooler, It has a calculated equilibrium temperature of -16 degrees Fahrenheit/ -27 degrees Celsius, but put that in perspective with planet Mars, the most likely candidate for colonization in our solar system, which has temperatures that can dip to about 280 degrees below farenheit. 1-E also has greenhouse gases to keep the planet warm, so a special space suit wouldn't be required just to survive the weather.
The gravity there is a little lighter than earth, but it's still 93% the same surface gravity, so that's a very close match, closer than Mars or the moon, or even Venus, so medical problems like muscle and bone density loss from dramatic decreases in gravity strength wouldn't be a problem. It wouldn't be enough of a gravity change to be that perceptible, just enough difference to make life on the planet more fun. You might find that you can go a little higher when you're doing jumping jacks and skipping rope, and your grocery bags and backpacks are lighterweight and easier to tote around, and that you have lost that extra 5 or 10 pounds of weight you had been meaning to after the holidays.
Due to the distance from the sun and it's temperature scientists think this exoplanet and others in the system receive an amount of light similar to planets in our solar system. It's supposed to be beautiful on Trappist 1-E too. Since the sun is an ultra cool red dwarf that would produce a stunning red pink glow to the sky, to give days with the appearance of always in sunrise/sunset. Because the planets all huddle very close to it's parent star you can see the six other planets from the sky the same way we would look up and see the moon from earth at night, but they would be twice the size of full moons, and if the neighboring planets have continents you would even be able to make them out from your own planet.
If only Trappist had a cooler name...
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I'm with you. Kepler-442b is theoretically feasible. That or Kepler-22b, if we can establish habitat zones.
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Cool post but…
Wouldn't this lead to some horrific gravity effects? Like how some Jovian moons have volcanos without plate tectonics due to the effects of Jupiter's gravity.
I'm imagining waves like in Interstellar for starters…
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I would need to know a lot of specifics regarding certain things, but ignoring some of that
It'd at a minimum need to be a planet where society isn't fucking irredeemably terrible, and my life is an enjoyable one. Not much point in moving to another planet when it's just same shit, different celestial body really.
It'd at a minimum need to be a planet where society isn't fucking irredeemably terrible, and my life is an enjoyable one. Not much point in moving to another planet when it's just same shit, different celestial body really.
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This is a great question! Many of the models for the Trappist solar system, examine the proximity to the sun itself, and the planet's own orbit when estimating it's heat, but not necessarily gravitational influence of the planets on one another acting as moons, and raising the tides to the point that it deforms and causes friction, and heating like with our Galilean moons, and the volcanic activity particularly on Io. Scientists haven't actually encountered a system like this before where planets do this to one another, and the Trappist system would be the first one.
Research into this is still very new. However, there was however a student named Hamish Hay at the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory who had done some investigation into how much heat might ocur in the Trappist system from interplanetary tidal heating, and found that the inner two planets in the solar the system, Trappist B and C, our Mercury and Venus do get close enough to raise strong tides on each other, and could fuel volcanoes. Since I'm on the 4th planet E, I may yet escape :)
If anyone has their heart set on moving to the first two planets though in the state, there are still some interesting and bizarre scifi scenarios where life might even be supported here, due to the heating. The Trappist planets are thought to be tidally-locked, something I should've mention before. This can be game-changing. With one face of the planet always locked towards the star you would have this divided world where half of the planet is living essentially always in daylight, while the other half is a night land. It would probably be too hot on the "day" region of the planet for life to exist, but the heat might be beneficial to life on the planet's evening hemisphere, warming up an area that would otherwise been frozen and too cold for things to live, and enabling life forms to exist there.
I do not want to say this, but in my heart, I believe if we found a planet to inhabit we wouldn't learn our lessons from this one.
"We" being humans in general. I have a fear that if, in the future, we do find and move a planet, we'll damage it too.
I'm in the under 40 category, expected a rather bleak life due to climate change. However, I'm 31, I feel bad for the children of today.
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I'd also have to say Earth! I'd miss everyone and everything to much to start again somewhere new. And I doubt the internet would be any good anywhere else anyway :P
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Dantooine seems like a really sweet place to build a nest in.
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Now if scifi worlds are included then I would go to Endor's forest moon from the Star Wars universe. You're surrounded by idyllic lush green woodlands, and get to explore the landscape on cool speeder bikes that hover off the ground and zip through the forest at lightning speed.
I know ewoks are critters that fans either love or hate, but I personally loved these walking stuffed animal-like extraterrestrials, and think it would be entertaining to be a guest in their village like Leia was. I think a good time to move to the moon would be right after the Age of the Empire, and show up during the victory celebration for a night of feasting and dancing by the fireside, singing Yub Nub under the stars along with Luke, Han, Lando and Leia.
I know ewoks are critters that fans either love or hate, but I personally loved these walking stuffed animal-like extraterrestrials, and think it would be entertaining to be a guest in their village like Leia was. I think a good time to move to the moon would be right after the Age of the Empire, and show up during the victory celebration for a night of feasting and dancing by the fireside, singing Yub Nub under the stars along with Luke, Han, Lando and Leia.