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I'm UNafilliated. There's not much I can really do at this point ;-;

[ARREST]Bardothren
 
...I've been waiting for you, Mr. Ceptio! I am Seth Edgeworth, and the prosecution is ready, Your Honor!

Phoenix Ceptio said:
A bunch of people pointing fingers at a girl for no good and believable reason?
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Mr. Ceptio, I believe you've stated these reasons yourself:

Phoenix Ceptio said:
- The arguments made against her are thus listed:
  • She was allegedly upset that nobody had died.
  • She started the Klippy bandwagon.
She was quick to lynch Twi due to their assumed mistake in the Skype chat.

Mr. Ceptio, mind if I remind you of something? We are on Day 3, there are very little evidence against anybody. Absol is our best target. If I remember correctly, she didn't even defend herself. Honestly, if you want us to believe that you're really innocent, you have to try to prove to us that you're not guilty, not just stand there. Although yes, Absol is known to make those kind of mistakes. Mr. Ceptio, if you are not going to vote for Absol...do you have another suggestion? I highly doubt so, unless you're going to vote for Mana and Gimmepie for this theatrical hint. But we all know recent games on the UG are having too much theatrical hint, it may even mean nothing. Or are you suggesting Bardothren? These "evidence" you have for accusing Bardothren are very...weak compared to those of Absol. Yes, for all we know he's pulling a Bard and lying to us, but Absol has far more evidence going against her. And do we have proof that Bardothren has a role? No, but he himself said he might be an Idealist. He wasn't hasty at all. And we all know Bard is kind of arrogant, so I am not surprised he asked for protection. Besides, you don't have proof that Absol is innocent, either. We are on Day 3 and we have very...little evidence against anyone. But our best bet today is the defendant, Absol.

Phoenix Ceptio said:
- At least two people are voting for her based on the band wagon effect.

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Are you referring to me? I said, and I quote:

"I want to see this "disaster" everybody is talking about." Everybody says, when Absol is lynched, something bad happens. Weird, don't you think?
 
The Naomi Chronicles

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Raye Penber reluctantly scribbled the name of his superior on the piece of paper.

The earpiece through which orders were being issued linked directly to Kira. He knew that if he didn't comply, Kira would kill him.

And not just him.

Raye hadn't been left with much choice, but he also figured that this wasn't the worst thing that could happen, considering Kira couldn't kill someone with just their name.

"Next, take out your laptop and turn it on," Kira ordered.

Unknown to Raye, Light Yagami was standing by the door on the next train car over, witnessing his every move.

"Any minute now your boss is going to send you a message with a file attachment. It contains the names and photos of all the FBI agents currently active in Japan."

Raye did as he was told, shocked when he found the message. How . . . ?

"Now, one by one you're going to look at each photo and then write that agent's name in the space provided. You're going to do this for each agent."

It doesn't make sense, Raye thought. If he's already got the names, why use me? What's he planning to do with them?

Raye closed his laptop.

"Good, looks like you're done. Now put the transceiver and all the papers back into the original envelope and place it onto the rack above your head. After that, you're going to stay in your seat and ride the train for at least another thirty minutes. When you're absolutely certain that nobody will notice you leaving without the envelope, you can get off the train."

Raye waited in silence.

I know that voice. Why on Earth can't I remember who it belongs to? He was so close to figuring out just who Kira was.

4:41 pm.

He stood up as the train came to a halt.

Kira, who are you?

The instant he stepped off the train, he halted. His eyes widened and he clutched his hand to his chest.

A heart attack. This was it. Kira wasn't going to let him leave here alive after all.

He dropped to his knees, gasping for breath. As he heard the train door closing, he tried to turn towards it, stumbling and falling to the ground. He managed to turn his face to the doors right before they closed.

The figure in front of him was . . . Light Yagami?

"Farewell, Raye Penber."

In another instant, the life had drained from Raye's eyes.

Light grinned.

Raye Penber had written all those names on pages taken from the Death Note. Ironic. Without even realizing it, he was actually signing a death warrant for all of his colleagues. As for Penber's boss, he died of a heart attack after sending all of his agents a file. And the other eleven investigators? They all died of heart attacks after receiving the same file.

Little did Light Yagami know that he'd possibly just made the worst mistake of his life.

He'd killed Raye Penber, but he'd left Raye's fianceé alive and well.

And once Naomi realized what had happened, she was going to find Kira.
 
Do you see what I see? I see weak excuses to throw someone in a prison cell. Someone whom, for all we know, may have a role. Don't get me wrong, I am aware that all of your assumptions could be right. But personally I don't buy it just yet. A few rebuttals to the above list:

  • Trust me, she is not the only one upset to see no deaths. So few deaths, especially early on, makes things boring.
  • Are we really judging her... for being suspicious of Klippy? Yes Klippy is a mostly proven ally. But everyone always mentions how devious he can be. I personally don't blame her.
  • You're prosecuting someone... because she made a hasty assumption... based on information from outside the case... and that you have already chosen to ignore for the time being? You're kidding right?

I forgot to add something interesting...Mr. Ceptio, On The Day 2 post, the mafia tried going after Klippy, but failed. That means that Klippy is indeed Near and is innocent. He is not a mostly proven ally, but, a confirmed ally.
 
Can you stop with placeholder votes and read the thread? You obviously have enough time to do so if you keep suggesting that we play EM.

smh
 
I totally did not forget I was in this

Since I'm the biggest fool on the planet, I am just posting to let y'all know I'm around, and will catch up tomorrow (hopefully). No placeholder vote for me, because I intend to actually make an informed decision as opposed to voting just to keep myself in the game.
 
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Is this... the best you can do?

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Day three or day twenty-five. Have you forgotten the very point of this game Mr. Edgeworth... or should I call you Seth?

In case you have it's to take down the Mafia. Nobody else. Throwing someone into the firing range because they're the "best option" means nothing when none of your options mean anything in the first place. You call yourself a lawyer yet I walk onto the scene and see you trying to push the arrest of my client, someone with very little negative evidence behind her...

Pah! You know what even calling it evidence is a joke.

Please, allow me to revise the truth of things. Since clearly, none of you can keep up.

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Mr. Ceptio, I believe you've stated these reasons yourself:

Yes you are correct, I did post those problems. But what you have so quickly chosen to neglect is that I also gave valid reasons as to why all of those points could be nothing but the ill placed conjecture that I personally believe it to be.

And once more, you get me wrong. I am not accusing Bard, hoho, quite the contrary I do for now believe he has a positive role. That he fights for justice. But allow me to show you the other side of a flipping coin friends. From nothing I pull conjecture, I am here to tell you that you do the same.

You have nothing concrete... Absol isn't your best option, she's just the option you pick. Your excuse to lynch SOMEBODY.

No I don't have proof for Bard, but he is if anything my example. I have just as much right to be suspicious of him as you do to suspect Absol and in the end that amounts to nothing but easily refutable evidence.

If I remember correctly, she didn't even defend herself.

Did you not see what she just said? What can she do to defend herself against a wild mob of angry individuals looking for ANYBODY to be thrown into prison? Not to mention people have mentioned multiple times that she could be suspected of being a scapegoat. Do you really want to throw any old person into prison? Do you REALLY want to take the chance on uncertainty when doing so could cost you the entire game?

She claims to be unaffiliated. Do you know what that means? It means she's got NO allies to defend her? Do you see anybody coming out of the woodwork to protect this girl? Do you see anybody trying to stop this? Do you honestly think that the mafia would sacrifice one of their own so easily?

I. Think. Not.

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I am one of the only, if not the only person to defend this girl... and I am part of the even smaller majority that has not accused her! Remember what was said before. This bandwagon is the perfect opportunity to the mafia. I believe that if Absol was truly an Idealist that her allies would not allow her to die so easily. Especially this early and ESPECIALLY when one idealist is dead already!

Tell me Seth Edgeworth. Can you explain that? Can you tell me why the girl you call Idealist has not once been protected by her peers? Why nobody has tried to save her until now?

Do you really underestimate Kira so much... that you'd think he'd be stupid enough to let another one of his own fall so soon?!

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If you ask me... this is more convincing evidence than anything you have presented. Enough to convince me that Absol is telling the truth!

In the end... this game is a unique one. Kira can't hurt us unless he has the appropriate information. The proof he needs. I'd rather arrest nobody then give everything he requires to kill another of our own... another fighter for the force of Justice! Prosecution or no, I know we're on the same side here.

You seek the truth just as I do so surely in face of this you can understand that what we're doing here is feeding Kira out of the palms of our hands! We do not have to be enemies in this, if we work together we could be stronger but I need you to understand the truth of this situation!

[ARREST] Deceptio.

Just a placeholder. I'm kind of confused and definitely do not approve of the bandwagon on Absol.

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Don't fear Doof, I know Bac's intentions are pure. He understands my cause now, he too understands that this lynching Absol nonsense is foolery.
 
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*sigh* I guess the Absolwagon is a little hasty, but what other positive leads do we have? As Deceptio pointed out, her starting a bandwagon in and of itself isn't evidence that she's an Idealist, but in this case we know that the Klippywagon was engineered by the Idealists. I'm still relatively confident that our best source of clues lies there. The Idealists have a big handicap with having to know a player's role in order to night kill them, so it seems likely that they would rely heavily on bandwagons to get their kills.

So if we're going to look for alternatives to Absol, I think we should start there. Do you object, Mr. Ceptio?
 
*sigh* I guess the Absolwagon is a little hasty, but what other positive leads do we have? As Deceptio pointed out, her starting a bandwagon in and of itself isn't evidence that she's an Idealist, but in this case we know that the Klippywagon was engineered by the Idealists. I'm still relatively confident that our best source of clues lies there. The Idealists have a big handicap with having to know a player's role in order to night kill them, so it seems likely that they would rely heavily on bandwagons to get their kills.

So if we're going to look for alternatives to Absol, I think we should start there. Do you object, Mr. Ceptio?

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Almost certainly a good choice. I agree completely with the idea of using the bandwagons as a starting point. After all, it's not like doing this can HURT us so long as we don't move too hastily.

I say we gather and name each and every bandwagon created so far. Compile a list of those whom started said bandwagons and at the very least use it as a point of reference.

If nothing else I feel like this is a very good place to start.
 
So I went through the thread and wrote down (what I considered to be) the more relevant votes and vote changes. As well as personal suspicions I had after a day phase was complete and we got to see if the end result was good/bad. So here we go:

Day1:
Absol -> Klippy -> Jupiter
gio7sm -> Klippy -> Jupiter
Bacteriophage -> Klippy
Nimsy -> Klippy -> gio7sm
Twiggy -> Klippy -> gio7sm
Jupiter -> Klippy -> Ullion
Candy, Gunner, BidoofFTW, Ninja Aiden -> gio7sm

gio7sm died and was guilty, potential suspects from this are: Bacteriophage and Absol and Jupiter

Day2:
Absol -> gimmepie
Sopheria, JohnnyMustang, Gimmepie, Misdreavus, Bardothren, Fun Size, Seth Rollins and Twiggy -> Netto Azure
Ullion -> Netto Azure -> Jupiter
Bacteriophage -> Defends Jupiter, votes for Absol
Nimsy -> Jupiter

Suspicions from day 2: Pretty much everyone in bold. I guess me too for voting for him at the start? Also, Bacteriophage

Day3 so far:
Absol -> Bardothren
Nimsy -> Jupiter
Bardothren, Twiggy, Gimmepie, Seth Rollins, Sopheria, Lycanthropy, Orpheus, and Mana -> Absol

Gunner -> Mana
Kiyoshi the Cubchoo -> Gunner
Klippy -> Candy (???)
Nagi -> Jupiter
Bacteriophage -> Deceptio

So we can't draw too many conclusions from day 3 simply ebcause we don't know who is who. Personally I want to avoid lynching Absol on the fact that she may be the Scapegoat. :/

Also, on the first 2 days Bactertiophage made very suss lynch attempts, plus on day3 is voting to lynch deceptio despite it being pretty obvious that deceptio is neutral? (Unless he got thrown into having a role/alignment immedaitely after joining). But I think it'd be a dumb to lynch deceptio today.

So with this information, I personally find Bacteriophage the most suss and as a backup I'd say Jupiter.

For now, I'll [Arrest] Bacteriophage
 
I find Sopheria, Bard, gimmepie, and Twiggy far more suspicious. Twiggy, especially, since he joined the bandwagon on me, Netto, and Absol. Sopheria, gimme, and Bard joined 2/3.

[ARREST] Twiggy - may be inexperience with the games, since I think this is still one of your first few games, but very suspicious.
 
I find Sopheria, Bard, gimmepie, and Twiggy far more suspicious. Twiggy, especially, since he joined the bandwagon on me, Netto, and Absol. Sopheria, gimme, and Bard joined 2/3.

[ARREST] Twiggy - may be inexperience with the games, since I think this is still one of your first few games, but very suspicious.

Funny that you mention that, a couple names (even though they didn't strike me as suss from hard evidence alone) just kind of made me think they were mafia. Sopheria, Seth Rollins and Fun Size came to mind. x: Twiggy I'm really 50/50 on personally, I mean he did change his vote to gio7sm. That could have been to throw gio under the bus and keep himself looking innocent. :S

As for Bard, he lynch votes alone do make him more suss than not (barely, though) but his intentions and posts do make me think he's reliable (for now). Definitely worth keeping an eye on though.

And GP is another person I really don't know about. But it's hard to go off solely by da2's info, simply because so many of us voted for Netto. Hell, even I did for a point. So I'm really torn between some of these players. But Klippy, I do feel tempted to trust both of our intuitions.

Maybe our main suspects for now could/should be: Bacteriophage, Sopheria, Gimmepie and Twiggy?
 
This is game is so much more sexy to read now we have ace attorneys.

I can really get behind Deceptio's argument, since it was a bit weird that everyone seemed to be in agreement to lynch Absol. I felt uneasy putting myself on such a seemingly unanimous bandwagon. :X

[But The Law Won] Jupiter, even after going through the thread and Ullion's argument, Bac doesn't strike me as mafia.​
 
Jupiter
Poor Jupiter. Voted by Ullion because he voted for Klippy for "No reason" as if anyone else who voted for Klippy had a reason. Does this make Ullion suspicious? I'd say so. It makes it worse that both Gio7sm (revealed to be an Idealist) and Absol (my main suspect today) both voted as well. Kiyoshi the Polar Bear ALSO voted for Jupiter, but that's not enough for me to suspect him much at all.

Ullion is suspicious. Why? He chose to vote for Jupiter for jumping on the bandwagon for no reason, when myself and 4 other people did the same. This is a minor suspicion as of now and I will be watching him.

Um, what? I started the counter-bandwagon on gio7sm suspecting him to be mafia and he was. It's reasonable for a mafia to jump on a bandwagon to lynch another mafia to perhaps clear their own name. But I really really doubt a mafia would start a bandwagon to lynch another mafia - especially if they knew their teammate that they were lynchign has a role.

As for Jupiter, I voted for him because at the time it came down to a decision between Netto and Jupiter - and after Netto spoke I believed him. Jupiter isn't the mos suss imo at this moment, but I am watching him (not that he really posts nor talks much anyways).

Also, this is the second time you've defended Jupiter very closely. If anything it seems you're wary of losing him. Moreso than what any innocent would feel over any other unconfirmed innocent. I specify this way because most innocents here would likely be willing to trust and defend Klippy from this point on.

Now, when I lynched you at the end of my long post above - it was simply as a "from the little evidence we have so far with how bandwagons have gone so far" kind of lynch vote. The fact that you reacted this way, and accused me where it should be plainly obvious that I am not mafia - is very suss to me. You could also just be very lazy and/or careless as well. But sometimes being careless and lazy can lose the game even if you are innocent. So I'm content with my current lynch as of now.
 
OBJECTION!
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Mr. Ceptio, you don't see my point do you?

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If you don't want us to lynch Absol, then who, just who, do you suggest to lynch?! You defend Absol well and i admit that, but who do you accuse?! Do you have a good target?

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I. Think. Not.

Lynching gimmepie and Mana is useless because I think that "theatrical" hint is a joke. It failed so many times and since you participated in Blarzigord, you should know that. Suggesting Bardothren is your best bet right now, and the Prosecution sees the defense's point here. If Bardothren wants us to believe he is not guilty, then he better prove it to us tonight.

Deceptio said:
Tell me Seth Edgeworth. Can you explain that? Can you tell me why the girl you call Idealist has not once been protected by her peers? Why nobody has tried to save her until now?

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Why? I'll tell you why! To be cleared of suspicion, that's why!

Mr. Ceptio you are not new to mafia, are you? Do you know that mafia vote for each other to be cleared? It may or might have not happened here in this game, but a possibility will always be a possibility!

Also you hate bandwagons, do you not? Then allow me to go back, and link some pages:

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=352275&page=4

Bandwagon started by Absol used bite!

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=352275&page=7

Tried to start another bandwagon on gimmepie!

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=352275&page=10

Voting for Twi because she slipped up, with no good reason at all. You hate this, don't you, Mr. Phoenix Ceptio?! Why would you vote for someone that is confirmed to have a role?! The chances of him/her being a Justice is higher than her being an Idealist, am I correct?

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Thank you for your attention.
 
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Absol used bite! currently has the most votes.
 
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Seth you're misunderstanding the theatrical bit.

Light sat by a fountain, contemplating his newest kill. He thought it was probably a bit too theatrical, but perhaps that would help keep L off of his scent. It wasn't really Light's style, after all.

If anything this suggests that Light isn't a RPT-goer. But it's probably just flavour.
 
Sorry! I just need a vote in and I don't want to be at the mercy of a bandwagon.

[Arrest] Bacteriophage
 
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